Mazda: Mazda6 News
#321
I have to admit I'm jealous of all that torque and hp, this is a real rocketship. If you can get past paying mid-$30's for a loaded midsize Mazda, you'll be blowing the doors off a lot of unsuspecting Audis, Lexus', and BMW's who paid $5k to $10k more. The Mazda is MUCH better looking than the Evo or STI. Those cars, while they're very fast, look to have been designed by my 4-yr-old.
When it comes down to it, though, in a car like that I'd lose my friggin license, I'd be in it all the time. Plus, I just love my TSX too much.
When it comes down to it, though, in a car like that I'd lose my friggin license, I'd be in it all the time. Plus, I just love my TSX too much.
#322
Originally Posted by peter_bigblock
I have to admit I'm jealous of all that torque and hp, this is a real rocketship. If you can get past paying mid-$30's for a loaded midsize Mazda, you'll be blowing the doors off a lot of unsuspecting Audis, Lexus', and BMW's who paid $5k to $10k more. The Mazda is MUCH better looking than the Evo or STI. Those cars, while they're very fast, look to have been designed by my 4-yr-old.
When it comes down to it, though, in a car like that I'd lose my friggin license, I'd be in it all the time. Plus, I just love my TSX too much.
When it comes down to it, though, in a car like that I'd lose my friggin license, I'd be in it all the time. Plus, I just love my TSX too much.
Anyone can go fast with forced induction.
#323
Well, I'll try to get a first hand look today. One dealer I contacted emailed me the other day saying they had two cars on the ground ready to be test driven. If it really is as god as they claim, and the numbers work out, I may consider one of these...
#326
Originally Posted by Mizouse
are they making a mazdaspeed RX-8? that id like to see.. but stick with rwd, just turbo it ala RX-7
#327
Originally Posted by charliemike
I haven't heard anything. An MS8 would get like 3.1mpg and burn 2QT of oil every week though.
#328
Next Gen. Mazda 6 News **Out next spring (page 1)**
Mazda's midsize sedan getting bigger for 2008 - - By Ed Hellwig - - Source: Edmunds.com
After a four-year run with the Mazda 6 on the market, Mazda is finally upgrading its midsize family sedan. Our latest spy photos show a development mule undergoing tests on the streets of Detroit. It's wearing current sheet metal, but we suspect it's riding on the chassis of the 2008 Mazda 6 sedan.
The prototype might not give away any styling details, but its strange appearance does give a few hints to some of the car's expected changes. For one, the next-generation Mazda 6 is going to be bigger. Originally designed for Japanese and European markets, the current model's narrow cabin and limited backseat room have been a constant source of criticism.
This prototype clearly has a wider track as the rear tires barely fit underneath the extended wheel arches. You can also see a cutline running over the rear-quarter panels and wider B-pillars which suggest this prototype is several inches longer than the current model. More width and length would be welcome upgrades as the 2007 Toyota Camry and 2007 Honda Accord both have significantly bigger cabins than the current Mazda 6.
Another major upgrade is expected under the hood. With only 215 horsepower, the current model's 3.0-liter V6 is no match for the V6s from Honda and Toyota. Even the Hyundai Sonata makes the Mazda look weak.
For 2008, we expect the next-generation Mazda 6 will upgrade to Ford's new 3.5-liter V6. This engine debuts in the Ford Edge and Lincoln Mark X crossovers this year as well as the Lincoln Mark Z sedan, a car which shares the Mazda 6's CD3 platform.
With 250 hp and 240 pound-feet of torque, the DOHC V6 won't exactly put Mazda at the top of the family sedan pecking order, but it won't be looking up from the bottom either. A six-speed automatic transmission should help make up for some of its lack of power versus the competition. Ford also claims the new engine can be easily upgraded with new technology like gasoline direct injection, a hybrid drive system, or a turbocharger for more power.
Although Mazda could use the help right now, we don't expect to see this new Mazda 6 for at least another year, probably longer. With two new crossovers hitting the market and a Mazdaspeed 3 on the way, the small Japanese company will need some time before it's ready to launch such a crucial car.
Hopefully the extra year will give Mazda engineers some time to tweak the V6 to give the new sedan the power it needs to compete. Expect to see the results sometime next spring.
The prototype might not give away any styling details, but its strange appearance does give a few hints to some of the car's expected changes. For one, the next-generation Mazda 6 is going to be bigger. Originally designed for Japanese and European markets, the current model's narrow cabin and limited backseat room have been a constant source of criticism.
This prototype clearly has a wider track as the rear tires barely fit underneath the extended wheel arches. You can also see a cutline running over the rear-quarter panels and wider B-pillars which suggest this prototype is several inches longer than the current model. More width and length would be welcome upgrades as the 2007 Toyota Camry and 2007 Honda Accord both have significantly bigger cabins than the current Mazda 6.
Another major upgrade is expected under the hood. With only 215 horsepower, the current model's 3.0-liter V6 is no match for the V6s from Honda and Toyota. Even the Hyundai Sonata makes the Mazda look weak.
For 2008, we expect the next-generation Mazda 6 will upgrade to Ford's new 3.5-liter V6. This engine debuts in the Ford Edge and Lincoln Mark X crossovers this year as well as the Lincoln Mark Z sedan, a car which shares the Mazda 6's CD3 platform.
With 250 hp and 240 pound-feet of torque, the DOHC V6 won't exactly put Mazda at the top of the family sedan pecking order, but it won't be looking up from the bottom either. A six-speed automatic transmission should help make up for some of its lack of power versus the competition. Ford also claims the new engine can be easily upgraded with new technology like gasoline direct injection, a hybrid drive system, or a turbocharger for more power.
Although Mazda could use the help right now, we don't expect to see this new Mazda 6 for at least another year, probably longer. With two new crossovers hitting the market and a Mazdaspeed 3 on the way, the small Japanese company will need some time before it's ready to launch such a crucial car.
Hopefully the extra year will give Mazda engineers some time to tweak the V6 to give the new sedan the power it needs to compete. Expect to see the results sometime next spring.
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Future Products — Mazda - - By AUTOMOTIVE NEWS - - Source: Autoweek
Mazda6: A redesign comes in spring. It will share components with the Ford Fusion, which itself is a massaged version of the original Mazda6.
The new Mazda6 will be considerably longer, much of the extra length going into second-row seating. It still will be smaller than foes such as the Toyota Camry and Honda Accord. The V-6 gets bumped up to 3.5 liters.
The new Mazda6 will be considerably longer, much of the extra length going into second-row seating. It still will be smaller than foes such as the Toyota Camry and Honda Accord. The V-6 gets bumped up to 3.5 liters.
#340
How much bigger did it get if it's still smaller than an Accord, which is now considered one of the smaller midsize sedans on the market? I didn't even think it was that much smaller than the Honda to begin with.
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#350
Originally Posted by dom
#355
Originally Posted by charliemike
I like it. Now if they'd just give up on the clear tails. Really, that was cool 6 years ago.
If the new 6 offers better refinement - looks like a def winner.
#357
Originally Posted by Fibonacci
Love the look of the LED tails on the MazdaSpeed3.
If the new 6 offers better refinement - looks like a def winner.
If the new 6 offers better refinement - looks like a def winner.
#360
Originally Posted by dom