Lexus: IS News
03-04-2005, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by biker
For virtually any feature on the IS look at the GS for the answer. All of the features on the IS will be copied from the GS.
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03-04-2005, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Precision Crafted
My question is this. What cars compete with the TSX?
03-04-2005, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by LessisBestmakingendsmeet
How? its fwd, I-4 and a Euro Accord. You maybe fooled by the badge but most are not. Its a nice car, don't get me wrong, but not a near luxury car. That starts at 30k.
The TSX can totally be considered entry-luxury. Just because it's based on the Euro Spec Accord, does not mean it cant qualify as entry luxury. It has received several updates/upgrades from the Euro Accord. What wheels get motion does not define class. If that's the case, Volvos, Saabs and FWD Audis are not luxury cars.
03-04-2005, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Infamous425
its an accord in europe but its an acura here.
03-04-2005, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by titan
As Biker said, that badge will only go so far. The G and FX (the new guard) have been successfull, while the M may very well follow in their footsteps. The Q (last of the old guard) has never caught on, as you said, despite being a true competitor. Hopefully Infinit can fix that with the next gen Q. From what I hear, you're right on the QX. Nissan has had quality problems with all vehicles (from the Quest to the Titan) produced at the new Canton, MS. plant, QX included... hope that issue gets addressed. After seeing the M, don't count out the next gen G having a very nice interior, to go with all of it's other attributes. Basically, 245HP, a nice interior, and the Lexus badge won't mean shit if the next G also has a nice interior, the rumored 300HP+ 4.1L VQ, and the reputation the current G has already gained for itself. 
Nissan is still playing the hp war. Of interest to me, the Camary out sells the Accord, yet the Accord has more pwr and is sportier and the Altima had more hp and was more fun to drive then either. The 3 was out gunned by the G yet the 3 reigned king. The TL for now is the top seller in its class. It would seem that HP isn't much to all people especially if the car drinks gas and if OPEC does push oil to 80 buck a barrel.
03-04-2005, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by koolharshis
The Vehicle Dynamics Integrated Management system (VDIM) employs brake pressure, steering angle, torque steer, yaw rate, G-force and vehicle speed sensors to fully integrate the new IS’ Anti-Lock Brakes (ABS), Traction Control (TRC), Vehicle Stability Control (VSC) and Electric Power Steering (EPS) systems. VDIM has been designed to act on anticipation, before the limit of the vehicle’s performance envelope has been reached, not only greatly improving active safety, but also promoting smoother “on-the-limit” vehicle behaviour through unobtrusive intervention and, hence, a more rewarding drive.
03-04-2005, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
That's not accurate either. The TSX has received substantial upgrades to become Acura-fied. It's not the same car. It's like calling the ES330 a Camry.
03-04-2005, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by TMQ
I think some of you got it wrong. The power output for the IS350 is not released yet. And it is not even certain whether IS250 is the one to be offered in the U.S. I heard that it will still be a IS300, and maybe it will have more HP. This would make more sense for the U.S. market. I don't think people want to go down to 250 from 300. I'm sure Lexus would also want the U.S. version to have more HP than TSX.
IS250 = 205HP to go against the A4 2.0T and others
IS300 = with the engine from the GS300 (245HP) to go against the 330i
IS350 = with at least 300HP, to go against the G35 6MT
That would make a lot more sense IMO.
03-04-2005, 10:50 AM
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Also, let not forget that the Accord (US), TSX (JDM Accord), TL, and RL are all based on a common plateform, yet each is very different from each other.
If I remmber we have basically the Euro R sold in Japan as our TSX. The JDM Accord has our US Accord's dash while the Inspire (US Accord) has the TSX's dash.
Our's is better (from what I've read) but lacks many of the tech features.
If I remmber we have basically the Euro R sold in Japan as our TSX. The JDM Accord has our US Accord's dash while the Inspire (US Accord) has the TSX's dash.
Our's is better (from what I've read) but lacks many of the tech features.
03-04-2005, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by biker
Rather small calipers.
03-04-2005, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by VTEC=happiness
Well, I put a deposit down on the IS last night. The delear really has no information on it at all, but did confirm that current word is still that the 3.5 liter will only be producing around 240. If the car is really released this underpowered, I'll be taking that deposit back in a hurry. Also, the dealer claims that the car will end up looking a little different than the car that was released at the European auto show this week. Apparently, there will be some more GS like cues in the IS by the time it goes into full production.
240HP from 3.5 liters just does not make much sense. Toyota makes 280HP from 3.5 liters, how can Lexus make 240?
03-04-2005, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
240HP from 3.5 liters just does not make much sense. Toyota makes 280HP from 3.5 liters, how can Lexus make 240?
245 for car of that weight is gonna be fine. Why are people saying underpowerd? The current is300 isn't?? SEems to do ok in sales.
03-04-2005, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Zapata
245 for car of that weight is gonna be fine. Why are people saying underpowerd? The current is300 isn't?? SEems to do ok in sales.
03-04-2005, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Precision Crafted
If I remember straight, the new IS is going after the new 3 since the current one failed. Lexus doesn't seem to concerned with Infiniti at this point as that company is still during itself around. The G, and FX are nice and have done well. The new M is still too new so I don't have a judgement. The Q while nice has never caught on dispite the big hp advantage is has over the LS and somewhat with BMW and M-B and the level of technology it had before anyone else such as voice recognition, 7 lenes for the head lamps that were bright enough and two of the seven were low enough that fog lights were not needed. And from what I've read, the QX is not the quality champ.
Also, remember that Nissan is playing the hp war game. It had to as it was almost an also ran. The interior materials were not that great, build quality wasn't the hottest, yet they have that VQ 3.5 in about everything with wheels.
I don't think the IS has much to worry about. Remember, it's a LEXUS.
Also, remember that Nissan is playing the hp war game. It had to as it was almost an also ran. The interior materials were not that great, build quality wasn't the hottest, yet they have that VQ 3.5 in about everything with wheels.
I don't think the IS has much to worry about. Remember, it's a LEXUS.
03-04-2005, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximized
The current gen IS300 went against the E46 3 series as well. The IS needs more power to compete in that segment. The new 330i has 258 hp, the G35 has 280hp, and the A4 has a more poweful 6 coming out.
Then Lexus will have to do something as the 3 is their main focus. I'm not sure how well Audi does in the US as I seem them from time to time but see others more.
03-04-2005, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximized
The current gen IS300 went against the E46 3 series as well. The IS needs more power to compete in that segment. The new 330i has 258 hp, the G35 has 280hp, and the A4 has a more poweful 6 coming out.
03-04-2005, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Shawn S
Are there definitely plans for a Coupe in the future or is that still just a rumor?
And what about 4WD?
And what about 4WD?
03-04-2005, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Precision Crafted
I thought that was for the G35C?
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Engine type 3.5 liter V6
Drive type Rear-wheel drive or All-wheel drive
Horsepower
Auto transmission 280 @ 6,200 RPM
Manual transmission 298 @ 6,400 RPM
03-04-2005, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
My point was the total HP when compared to the displacement. 245HP from 3 liters sounds OK considering where technological capability is at right now. But 245HP from 3.5 liters sounds like a step backward. Unless if they made it burn a TON less gas than normal.
sure but it's about tuning. Acura could've released j32a2 with a bit more than the standard 260 but didn't....it's 30hp increase and how much more trq than the current IS???? How is that a step backward?
03-04-2005, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by VTEC=happiness
Well, I put a deposit down on the IS last night. The delear really has no information on it at all, but did confirm that current word is still that the 3.5 liter will only be producing around 240. If the car is really released this underpowered, I'll be taking that deposit back in a hurry. Also, the dealer claims that the car will end up looking a little different than the car that was released at the European auto show this week. Apparently, there will be some more GS like cues in the IS by the time it goes into full production.
03-04-2005, 03:59 PM
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Think I'll wait till NY for the official specs. Lexus could be doing the same thing Acura has done with the tsx, leaving the power lower so that more luxury features could be made standard/available. 245hp isn't a horrible number and would probably move the car well considering the gs300 is rated 6.8s 0-60. Just seems a little strange that they would once again offer a rating lower than rivals, but it would also be strange if the IS had 245 and 300hp like the gs300/430.
Most importantly, hard to say anything is bad yet without a price.
Most importantly, hard to say anything is bad yet without a price.
03-04-2005, 11:31 PM
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And the plot thickens. According to this preview, the 245 hp rating is for the 3.0L V6. 204hp for the other 2.5L V6 that may or may not come to the US.
http://macleans.auto123.com/en/info/...py?artid=36995
http://macleans.auto123.com/en/info/...py?artid=36995
03-05-2005, 02:45 AM
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A boring Friday night. Anyhow, here's from C&D on BMW 1 series:
"BMW should perhaps call the 130i the Goat, because the car follows the philosophy of the car that ignited the muscle-car craze four decades ago. An engine from big car (BMW’s 530i) stuffed into a little car (1-series) equals fun and sales. With 258 horsepower and 221 pound-feet of torque, the inline six-cylinder should push the 130i to 60 mph in about 6.2 seconds, with the brand-wide fun governor stepping in at 155 mph. When the accelerator isn’t buried in the carpet, the car should get over 30 mpg on the highway. With almost 40,000 1-series sold between the car’s September launch and the end of the year, BMW has decided to bring the 130i to North American shores. Pricing is yet to be determined—figure around $25,000 to start—but the cars should begin arriving in a year or so."
"BMW should perhaps call the 130i the Goat, because the car follows the philosophy of the car that ignited the muscle-car craze four decades ago. An engine from big car (BMW’s 530i) stuffed into a little car (1-series) equals fun and sales. With 258 horsepower and 221 pound-feet of torque, the inline six-cylinder should push the 130i to 60 mph in about 6.2 seconds, with the brand-wide fun governor stepping in at 155 mph. When the accelerator isn’t buried in the carpet, the car should get over 30 mpg on the highway. With almost 40,000 1-series sold between the car’s September launch and the end of the year, BMW has decided to bring the 130i to North American shores. Pricing is yet to be determined—figure around $25,000 to start—but the cars should begin arriving in a year or so."
03-05-2005, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Shawn S
Are there definitely plans for a Coupe in the future or is that still just a rumor?
And what about 4WD?
And what about 4WD?
03-05-2005, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Maximized
The current gen IS300 went against the E46 3 series as well. The IS needs more power to compete in that segment. The new 330i has 258 hp, the G35 has 280hp, and the A4 has a more poweful 6 coming out.
03-05-2005, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by VTEC=happiness
Coupe and convertible planned...both to be introduced as 2007 models. Also, awd is supposed to be coming in at least one of the models.
03-05-2005, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Precision Crafted
I thought that was for the G35C?
03-05-2005, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by phile
And the plot thickens. According to this preview, the 245 hp rating is for the 3.0L V6. 204hp for the other 2.5L V6 that may or may not come to the US.
http://macleans.auto123.com/en/info/...py?artid=36995
http://macleans.auto123.com/en/info/...py?artid=36995
See? That's what I thought we would see in the end. You cant get 245HP from 3.5 liters from Lexus right now. It makes ZERO sense. 300HP is the absolute minimum for the IS from 3.5 liters.
03-05-2005, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by titan
^ So now they're definitely bringing over the sedan? I think that's a good idea for BMW. I'm guessing it'll be a hit in this market.
03-05-2005, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
Which more powerful V6 does the A4 have coming?
03-05-2005, 01:41 PM
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I always thought it would NOT make sense to NOT bring the 1-series here. Even with the 2.5 liter engine. Mostly because the A3 will be here in May. BMW cannot afford to not have a direct competitor offering for every Audi offering. They are like cats and dogs in Europe (especially in Germany).
I saw the 130 in Geneva - BMWs answer to the pocket rocket - albeit a somewhat expensive one.
03-05-2005, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximized
I was talking about the 3.2 255 hp FSI V6, which I thought wasn't available in the A4 yet. I guess I was wrong.
OK.