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Old 07-15-2013 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by phile
proportions are nice, but the iS is def the worst of the new styling direction Lexus is headed.
New? This styling direction has already been in place for a couple years now. The IS is really the last of the cars to finally come into it.
Old 07-16-2013 | 10:56 AM
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weird, Jalopnik seems to think otherwise.. I personally thought the LF RC or whatever show car would be a new model line entirely... Jalopnik thinks its going to be the IS Coupe.

http://jalopnik.com/the-2015-lexus-r...ium=socialflow
Old 08-08-2013 | 10:13 PM
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I saw one on the road the other day...I LOVE it.
I love the exterior styling too. I went to check out the F-Sport at the local dealer and I really like the looks. Like the grille, like the compact looks, the lines, the tail lights, etc. The red leather seats were great.

There were disappointments though, I quickly found things that were downgrades from my 4-year-old A4 S-Line:
- All the interior trim is plastic. Nothing is real. Fake aluminum, fake vent surrounds, fake buttons, they don't even try to compete with the real aluminum/wood of Audi and BMW trims. Even the rear door sills are plastic, only the front are metal.
- The rear seats are usable this time although rear headroom is noticeably lower than the A4. However, the middle seating position is useless. Only a child could sit there and you'd only force them to if it's your step-child.
- The seats fold but they are well above the trunk floor. It sucks that they couldn't make them fold even with the trunk floor.

The good thing about this car is that it's priced WELL below Audi/BMW. The cost cutting shows but I'd still like the IS350 for the power and the looks. But it would feel like a downgrade from the A4 due to the interior.
Old 08-09-2013 | 11:11 AM
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I think it looks a lot better than previous gen. At least it is aggressive, not so Vanilla.

That is what a entry level sports sedan should be. But there is no MT, so meh.
Old 08-09-2013 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Belzebutt
I love the exterior styling too. I went to check out the F-Sport at the local dealer and I really like the looks. Like the grille, like the compact looks, the lines, the tail lights, etc. The red leather seats were great.

There were disappointments though, I quickly found things that were downgrades from my 4-year-old A4 S-Line:
- All the interior trim is plastic. Nothing is real. Fake aluminum, fake vent surrounds, fake buttons, they don't even try to compete with the real aluminum/wood of Audi and BMW trims. Even the rear door sills are plastic, only the front are metal.
- The rear seats are usable this time although rear headroom is noticeably lower than the A4. However, the middle seating position is useless. Only a child could sit there and you'd only force them to if it's your step-child.
- The seats fold but they are well above the trunk floor. It sucks that they couldn't make them fold even with the trunk floor.

The good thing about this car is that it's priced WELL below Audi/BMW. The cost cutting shows but I'd still like the IS350 for the power and the looks. But it would feel like a downgrade from the A4 due to the interior.
Every mag loved the interior of the new IS. I think it is better than A4's from the pictures.

IS350 is not compared with A4, IS250 is. Since There is no V6 A4 anymore you will have to compare it with S4 and 335.

On paper IS350 has 300+ Hp, but it is still the slowest among its competitors.
Old 08-09-2013 | 11:24 AM
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I think the IS350 is marginally faster than the CTS 3.6. With that said, it seems like the new IS350 is slower than the previous gen when you look at the 0-60 time and 1/4 mile time. While the old model was capable of 0-60mph in the 4's and 1/4 mile in the 13's, I haven't seen any test where the new IS350 has cracked into the 13's range......
Old 08-09-2013 | 11:59 AM
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I think the IS350 is marginally faster than the CTS 3.6. With that said, it seems like the new IS350 is slower than the previous gen when you look at the 0-60 time and 1/4 mile time. While the old model was capable of 0-60mph in the 4's and 1/4 mile in the 13's, I haven't seen any test where the new IS350 has cracked into the 13's range......
LOL totally forgot about CTS.

It seems CTS has the best handling feel/chassis, it is a shame that the powertrain can't match the chassis. But i think the new V6 FI one is coming out soon?

old IS350 did not feel like 0-60 in 4s and 1/4 mile in 13's to me when i drove it. it felt about the same as a TL
Old 08-09-2013 | 06:40 PM
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LOL totally forgot about CTS.

It seems CTS has the best handling feel/chassis, it is a shame that the powertrain can't match the chassis. But i think the new V6 FI one is coming out soon?

old IS350 did not feel like 0-60 in 4s and 1/4 mile in 13's to me when i drove it. it felt about the same as a TL
Yea, I haven't the new CTS yet, but almost every test driver finds it the best handling car in the segment. It seems like GM put all of its research money and time into the chassis, but nothing else! The V6 FI is said to make 420hp. I guess it will compete with the S6? That is a tall order as the S6 is massively underrated (0-60mph in 3.7s with a stunningly high 1/4 mile trap speed to match).

For the old IS350, I heard that Lexus purposely setup the gearing so it would do extremely well for 0-60mph and 1/4 mile. I'm guessing out in the real world, it probably isn't as fast as the numbers suggest....
Old 08-09-2013 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
LOL totally forgot about CTS.

It seems CTS has the best handling feel/chassis, it is a shame that the powertrain can't match the chassis. But i think the new V6 FI one is coming out soon?

old IS350 did not feel like 0-60 in 4s and 1/4 mile in 13's to me when i drove it. it felt about the same as a TL
Originally Posted by iforyou
Yea, I haven't the new CTS yet, but almost every test driver finds it the best handling car in the segment. It seems like GM put all of its research money and time into the chassis, but nothing else! The V6 FI is said to make 420hp. I guess it will compete with the S6? That is a tall order as the S6 is massively underrated (0-60mph in 3.7s with a stunningly high 1/4 mile trap speed to match).

For the old IS350, I heard that Lexus purposely setup the gearing so it would do extremely well for 0-60mph and 1/4 mile. I'm guessing out in the real world, it probably isn't as fast as the numbers suggest....
Are you two talking about the ATS? That's the one that's in all the comparos, not the CTS.
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
Every mag loved the interior of the new IS. I think it is better than A4's from the pictures.
I like it on pictures too, and I even like the interior design and lines a lot. But there are zero expensive-feeling trim pieces inside. Sit in both cars back to back and see, you can't tell material feel from pictures.

And since the price of the 350 is similar to an A4 that's what I would be comparing it to. The 250 is supposed to be equivalent but it's a lot slower and even cheaper.

To me the IS is what the TSX used to represent but even better: the value sports sedan, except it's actually RWD, it has equivalent performance to the Germans at a lower price but also reduced luxury. If I was shopping for an A4/S4 or 3xx, and I was balking at the price, I'd strongly consider the IS.

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To me the IS is what the TSX used to represent but even better: the value sports sedan, except it's actually RWD, it has equivalent performance to the Germans at a lower price but also reduced luxury.
Do you mean TL?
Old 08-12-2013 | 03:52 PM
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So I saw it in person, looks quite aggressive.

One of those cases where I spewed seething vitriol only to take it back later. Looks funny still, but not as terrible as the photos.
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Do you mean TL?
No it's about the same size as my old TSX. Also it has folding rear seats unlike the TL.
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Post Lexus Trademarks 'IS 200t' Name

At the 2014 Beijing Auto Show last month, Lexus unveiled its new NX compact crossover and confirmed that the base model for the U.S. would be a NX 200t powered by a turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine. The engine, Lexus’ first turbo, will eventually make its way into other models from the Japanese brand, with the next recipient expected to be the IS sedan.

Now it’s been revealed that the Japanese automaker has filed for the trademark “IS 200t” with the United States Patent and Trademark Office. This suggests Lexus is about to launch a turbocharged version of the IS. The trademark was filed on May 23, 2014.

What’s not clear is whether the turbo model will replace the current IS 250, which is powered by a naturally aspirated 2.5-liter V-6, or complement it. We think the IS 200t will end up replacing the IS 250 since Lexus’ turbocharged engine delivers 235 horsepower and 258 pound-feet of torque while the V-6 in the IS 250 only musters up 204 hp and 185 lb-ft.

In addition to the new IS 200t, it’s also possible that the IS range will receive the IS 300h hybrid model currently offered overseas, giving the car a three-model lineup (IS 200t, IS 300h and IS 350). The IS 300h’s hybrid powertrain combines a 2.5-liter four-cylinder engine running an Atkinson cycle with an electric motor, and is common to the NX 300h and RC 300h models. However, a trademark for “IS 300h” is yet to be filed with the USPTO.
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IS200t to replace long in the tooth IS250? Works for me.
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So I saw it in person, looks quite aggressive.

One of those cases where I spewed seething vitriol only to take it back later. Looks funny still, but not as terrible as the photos.
+1, actually digging the F-Sport now. Wouldn't get it over a 335 but its more intriguing then most of the other cars in its class.
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O shit.... i guess it is finally coming.

I hope Lexus is keeping the 6mt in the IS200t(IS250).
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
O shit.... i guess it is finally coming.

I hope Lexus is keeping the 6mt in the IS200t(IS250).
With the way things are going, not bloody likely. Didn't they already do away with the 6MT in the current IS250 model?
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With the way things are going, not bloody likely. Didn't they already do away with the 6MT in the current IS250 model?
That's because IS250 was a boring car to begin with.

Maybe turbocharged IS200T will spark the interest of car enthusiast!
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They need to replace the engine in the IS350 as well... The performance figures are basically on par with the 2.0T from BMW.
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I have like zillion times more faith in Toyota/Lexus than Honda/Acura.

I'm sure they will come out with something interesting.
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^^^ I agree....they already added the alien grille in


for now, Hyundia/Kia FTMFW !!!
Old 05-29-2014 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MeehowsBRZ
+1, actually digging the F-Sport now. Wouldn't get it over a 335 but its more intriguing then most of the other cars in its class.
It's grown on me even more since then! I really like the way it looks. Plus I saw a guy with this kit on, god damn my neck was broken. I never realized the factory trunk had a "molded" ducktail look to it. Rear fog light acted as a 3rd brake light.



ignore the broken wheel fitment. The once I saw in person was just plain flush. Looked so good.
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looks wise. i think i even like IS f sport more than M sport.

and interior too

Too bad engine and tranny aint good enough.
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
looks wise. i think i even like IS f sport more than M sport.

and interior too

Too bad engine and tranny aint good enough
Still hanging on to the Infinity probably will so for some time since there's nothing tempting me too much.

Gotta see what the IS-F, M3, and Eau Rouge have to offer in the next few years. SRT-8 and SS are still on my radar.
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ballin!
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ballin!
If we were in Arkansas. In the Bay Area, we're average lol.
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
O shit.... i guess it is finally coming.

I hope Lexus is keeping the 6mt in the IS200t(IS250).
Yes please! Bring back the 6MT, Lexus.
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European IS getting 2.0 turbo before U.S.?

Lexus IS 200t gets a 245 hp turbo four-cylinder, comes here in 2016

So,

2.0t = 241 horsepower / 258 lb-ft torque
2.5 = 204 horsepower / 185 lb-ft torque
3.5 = 306 horsepower / 277 lb-ft torque


Lexus To Launch IS 200t With Innovative 2.0l Turbo Petrol Engine

• New turbo engine offers superior smoothness and responsiveness, with no turbo-lag and high fuel efficiency
• Engine mated to 8-speed Sport Direct Shift transmission
• IS 200t on sale in Europe as from September 2015

Brussels, Belgium, 26 Jun 2015 - Lexus is expanding the range of vehicle equipped with its new 2.0-litre turbo engine. Following the launch of NX 200t in early 2015 and the announced arrival of RX 200t by the end of the year, IS is the third Lexus model to be fitted with this new engine.

Powered by a new 2.0-litre petrol turbo engine – with innovative D-4ST fuel injection technology for both fuel economy and instantaneous torque – the Lexus IS 200t sports sedan delivers 245 DIN hp (180kW) with a maximum torque of 350 Nm. Capable of rapid acceleration up to a top speed of 230 km/h, its 8-speed Sport Direct Shift transmission was developed for the high-performance RC F.

Featuring a breakthrough combination of water-cooled cylinder head, integrated exhaust manifold and twin scroll turbocharger, this all-new Lexus 2.0-litre turbo engine delivers fast throttle response, performance and high torque at low engine revs. For enhanced fuel economy, innovative valve timing (VVT-iW: Variable Valve Timing intelligent - Wide) allows the engine to switch between the Otto and Atkinson cycles.

The IS 200t returns a 0-100 km/h acceleration time of 7.0 seconds and an average fuel consumption of 7.0l/100 km.

Cylinder Head with Integral 4-into-2 Exhaust Manifold and Twin-Scroll Turbo

This innovative, combination of engine technologies has been designed to provide a high level of responsiveness with minimal turbo lag and enhanced low speed torque, and yet return an improved fuel economy.

The four-into-two exhaust manifold system pairs cylinders according to their expansion or compression stroke. Acting in conjunction with the highly-efficient, twin-scroll turbocharger, this innovative manifold structure prevents interference between the exhaust gasses from each cylinder, generating high torque across the widest possible rev range.

The engine further employs an air to liquid intercooler mounted directly to the engine to significantly reduce the intake volume downstream of the turbocharger, minimising turbo lag for a highly responsive performance.

The twin-scroll turbocharger itself features variable waste gate valve control. This minimises pumping losses by reducing back pressure during low engine loads when the turbo is not required realising good fuel economy.

In addition, the integration of the exhaust manifold within the cylinder head enhances exhaust gas cooling without sacrificing catalyst warm-up performance. This not only helps to suppress catalyst deterioration, but also expands driving range at the optimum, stoichiometric air-fuel ratio.

D-4ST Fuel Injection System

D-4ST (Direct injection 4 stroke gasoline engine Superior version with Turbo) combines a high pressure fuel system for injection directly into the cylinders with a low pressure system for injection into the ports. Injection is split between the direct and port injectors according to the engine load, optimising fuel combustion in all driving situations to enhance both low speed torque and fuel economy.

This advanced fuel injection system works in combination with turbocharging technology to create a high level of compatibility between the 'high tumble ratio' achieved by optimising the shape of the cylinder head intake ports and the piston tops, and turbo 'boost control'.

Innovative Dual VVT-iW Technology

Optimising torque throughout the engine rev range and allowing the engine to start in the Otto cycle and yet run in the more fuel efficient Atkinson cycle, the new Lexus turbo features innovative dual variable valve timing technology which adopts VVT-i to the exhaust valves and VVT-iW to the intake valves, but also delivers wide open throttle performance.

The late intake valve closing of the Atkinson cycle reduces pumping losses and boosts fuel economy. VVT-iW incorporates a mid-position lock which not only enables the Atkinson cycle to be maintained without sacrificing starting performance in cold weather.

Further Advanced Features

The new 2.0 litre turbo engine is remarkably light and compact. Cast with low nickel content heat resistant steel, and featuring a resin cylinder head cover, intake manifold and intake pipes, it weighs just 160 kg. The unit was bench-tested for more than 10,000 hours before extensive on-road testing began, during which it then covering more than one million kilometres.

Several measures have been adopted to reduce friction losses within various parts of the engine, enhancing fuel economy. The adoption of an offset crankshaft lowers the piston thrust load to reduce friction losses. Cylinder bore machining has been improved and a piston surface treatment applied to the piston skirts, reducing sliding resistance. Low tension piston rings have been used, and the weight of reciprocating parts reduced.

A lightweight roller rocker valve train and a low friction timing chain have been adopted, and the sliding parts of the chain fabricated in a low friction material. Low friction materials have also been used for the crankshaft oil seals, and the flow of lubricating oil optimised, with oil pump flow reduced through the adoption of a variable discharge mechanism.

Careful heat management within the engine further improves fuel efficiency. To that end, a cylinder block rapid warm-up system suppresses the flow of coolant into the block when the engine is cold, and a piston cooling oil jet control system cuts the supply of oil to the pistons to improve warm-up speeds.

Smoothness, Quietness and a Better Turbo Sound

With the rigidity of the main structural components already optimised to suppress vibration, the new engine is further equipped with a balance shaft featuring resin gears for even greater smoothness.

Newly developed lubricating calcium free oil removes the chance of engine knock at low engine revolutions, and the piston cooling oil jet system further improves anti-knock performance.

The water-cooled intercooler provides strong advantages in starting off acceleration and a 0.3-second reduction in 0–100km/h acceleration time over an air-to-air type alternative. The acceleration curve prioritises torque delivery at low speeds.

Turbo engines tend to be noisy when the throttle is closed (referred to as the 'turbo sigh'). An electric air bypass valve and resonator have been adopted to greatly reduce characteristic turbocharger noise. As a turbocharged engine requires smooth intake flow for performance, Lexus engineers focused on creating special duct shapes which deliver power without noise.

Eight-speed transmission with paddle shifts

The IS 200t also received the 8-Speed Sport Direct Shift transmission with paddle shifts, originally developed for the RC F high-performance coupe. The rear wheel drive IS 200t is the first Lexus sedan to vary gear shifting in accordance to G-forces.

The transmission automatically downshifts during hard braking before a corner then holds a lower gear through the corner for best control and then selects the most suitable gear on corner exit to give the driver greater throttle response.

The IS 200t will be available as from September 2015.


IS 200t - TECHNICAL DATA

ENGINE
Maximum Output DIN hp / kW 245 / 180
Capacity (cm) / Cylinders / Valves 1998 / L4 / 16
Valve mechanism Dual VVT-i
Fuel type / Octane rating Petrol / 95 or +
Max. power (DIN hp / kW @ rpm) 245 / 180 @ 5800
Max. torque (Nm @ rpm) 350 @ 1650-4400

TRANSMISSION
Driven wheels Rear-wheel drive
Transmission 8-speed Sport Direct Shift automatic

PERFORMANCE
Max. speed (km/h) 230
0-100 km/h (s) 7.0

EMISSIONS* (g/km)
Emissions level Euro 6
CO2Combined 162 (with 17"wheels) / 167 (with 18"wheels)

FUEL CONSUMPTION* (l/100 km)
Combined 7.0 (with 17"wheels) / 7.2 (with 18"wheels)

BRAKES
Front and rear Ventilated discs

SUSPENSION
Front Double wishbone
Rear Multi-link

STEERING
Type Rack and pinion
Turns (lock to lock) 2.84
Min. turning radius (m) 5.2

WEIGHTS (kg)
Gross vehicle 2125
Kerb (min. – max.) 1590-1680
Towing (max. with / without brakes) 1500 / 750

DRAG COEFFICIENT
Cd value 0.28

CAPACITIES (l)
Fuel tank 66
Luggage compartment 480
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Finally getting rid of that POS 2.5 V6. IS250s were dog slow.
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Originally Posted by JS + BRZ
Finally getting rid of that POS 2.5 V6. IS250s were dog slow.
they weren't even good on gas for the size either.
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People buy (mostly lease) the anemic 250 like crazy. The 2.0t in the NX200t is really fun; I can't wait to try it out in an IS!
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The transmission automatically downshifts during hard braking before a corner then holds a lower gear through the corner for best control and then selects the most suitable gear on corner exit to give the driver greater throttle response.
That sounds interesting. I'd like to see that in action.
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Yep. That's how it should be in the automatic transmission!
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LOL...and here we are still waiting for Honda/Acura to turbo something LOL...

they had a good start with the turbo RDX but they pulled the plug on that too
Old 07-05-2015 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Belzebutt
To me the IS is what the TSX used to represent but even better: the value sports sedan, except it's actually RWD, it has equivalent performance to the Germans at a lower price but also reduced luxury. If I was shopping for an A4/S4 or 3xx, and I was balking at the price, I'd strongly consider the IS.
IS250 is a complete snore fest. It has all the right pieces, but it's just awful.
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0-60 in 7.0 sec? This isn't the same kind of 2.0T as Audi/BMW/Mercedes...
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Originally Posted by Belzebutt
0-60 in 7.0 sec? This isn't the same kind of 2.0T as Audi/BMW/Mercedes...
That's probably a conservative estimate....C&D got 6.9s in the slightly heavier, AWD NX200T. The IS200t will probably be in the low 6's.....on par with C300, slower than ATS 2.0T and 328i?
Old 07-06-2015 | 02:12 PM
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Unless Lexus AWD is dramtically different.

BMW's Xdrive cars are faster than RWD ones 0-60 at least. Not that it really matters.

6.9 or 7 secs is dog slow compare to 328i
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Yeah, Lexus has been on point for the past 10 years. They will probably tune it so that it matches with the competition.


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