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Old 09-04-2020, 01:21 AM
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This thing looks like one of those cars from GTA 5, like the replica hummer or something. Nice interior, but the rest is hideous.
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This is exactly the SUV I'd imagine if a design chief said "yes!" to every single tech idea he heard. What a Frankenstein.
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Unless this swirly black and white camouflage is hiding something truly unexpected, we regret to inform you that the upcoming Jeep Grand Wagoneer will not have any wood paneling gracing its flanks. Sad. With that letdown out of the way, this new set of spy photos indicates that the production Grand Wagoneer will keep a lot of the unique styling elements that were introduced on the concept that was unveiled a month ago.

There are some bits missing from this preproduction version, including the jewel-like filagreed grille lighting that really made the concept stand out. We also see a traditional metal roof instead of the huge glass panel of the concept. We should point out, however, that there are likely to be several trim levels across the Wagoneer line, and it's possible some ultra-luxe editions will be offered.

What we do see is upright bodywork with a pronounced upward kink above the shoulder line that creates an interesting rear-most window shape. Muscular wheel openings devoid of cladding ought to lend an upscale appearance, as will the front and rear lighting clusters with blocky LED elements. It seems some of the camo body wrap is covering the light bar that connects the left and right taillights. The wheels look plenty big, but are probably a few inches shy of the massive 24-inch hoops affixed to the concept.

We can't see anything through the windows of this prototype, but the concept was chock full of digital screens ensconced in plenty of leather and wood. Considering the luxury market that the Grand Wagoneer is aimed at, we expect some of that cool technology to make it into production.

We have no idea what's powering this mule, but since it's based on the underpinnings of the Ram 1500 pickup truck, it's fair to speculate that a range of V6 and V8 options are possible. We'd wager the Ram's eTorque hybrid technology will be included, and a plug-in hybrid powertrain is rumored. We also get a good look at the independent rear suspension, likely propped up by adjustable air springs also borrowed from the Ram parts bin.


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It looks better in camo
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“The rebirth of an American icon” is how Jeep describes the Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer. Scheduled to premiere next Thursday at noon EST, the full-size luxobarges both feature the ladder frame of the Ram 1500.

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DT is how Ram calls the fifth-generation truck line, which features frequency response damping shocks as standard. Jeep confirmed Quadra-Lift air suspension for the standard- and long-wheelbase Wagoneer brothers, which should make the ride quality as good as you would expect from a luxury SUV. In true Jeep spirit, three 4x4 systems promise class-leading capability.

Slotted above the Grand Cherokee and seven-seat Grand Cherokee L, the body-on-frame siblings will be offered with a plug-in hybrid powertrain. Fiat Chrysler Automobiles - a.k.a. Stellantis - confirmed this option during the reveal of the Grand Wagoneer Concept, but the base engine should come in the guise of the free-breathing Pentastar V6. The 3.6-liter motor is rated at 305 horsepower and 269 pound-feet (364 Nm) of torque in the Ram 1500.

The next level up would be the 5.7-liter HEMI V8 with 395 horsepower and 410 pound-feet (556 Nm), and there’s a case to be made for the 3.0-liter EcoDiesel V6 as well because even Cadillac offers the Duramax I6 in the Escalade. Higher still, the 6.2-liter Hellcat supercharged HEMI V8 would be fitting for the Wagoneer Trackhawk and Grand Wagoneer Trackhawk.

As far as in-car entertainment is concerned, Jeep will utilize the Uconnect 5 infotainment system with Android as the operating system. The 4x4 specialist has also confirmed a front-passenger touchscreen and Amazon Fire TV.

"While Jeep vehicles bring leading capability, efficiency, and performance across the mainstream SUV market, Wagoneer will become a portfolio of vehicles that will once again define 'American Premium,' making it the standard of sophistication, authenticity, and mobility," declared global brand president Christian Meunier in September 2020.

Both models will be produced at Detroit’s newest auto assembly plant, built on the site of the Mack Avenue Engine Complex.
2022 Jeep Wagoneer, Grand Wagoneer Will Debut March 11th - autoevolution
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Jeep enlisted Amazon's help to take in-car entertainment to the next level. It announced the upcoming Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer will inaugurate Fire TV for Auto technology that will let passengers watch their favorite shows.

Although neither SUV has been revealed, we saw the Grand Wagoneer as a close-to-production concept in 2020. It revives a decades-old nameplate and honors its heritage by packing more premium features than any Jeep before it, but there's absolutely nothing retro about it. Four screens face the front passengers: one replaces the instrument cluster, two are embedded in the center stack, and the fourth is positioned on the right side of the dashboard.

It's these screens that will transform the SUVs into a living room on wheels. Fire TV for Auto will give users the option of synching their Amazon account via the Uconnect5 infotainment software to bring the entertainment they watch on their television into the cabin. Passengers will be able to watch their favorite shows and movies while traveling at 75 mph on the freeway, or while they're stuck in rush-hour traffic downtown. And, because the account will be synced, they'll have the ability to pause a show in their house and pick up where they left off in the car.

Jeep explained only the front and rear-seat passengers will be able to view content while the SUV is moving, and a privacy filter allegedly ensures the driver isn't tempted to stay entertained, too. However, motorists will be able to stream shows on the main infotainment screen if the transmission is in park. Connectivity is useless in areas with no network connection, so users will be encouraged to download content at home (when they're connected to Wi-Fi, for example) to ensure it can be viewed in the middle of the Nevada desert without interruptions or roaming charges.





Users who order the feature will receive a special remote control that includes push-to-talk access to Alexa to quickly find shows and a button that links the technology to the Android-powered infotainment system. Alternatively, they'll be able to navigate the different menus (including apps and channels) via the dashboard-mounted screens.

Digital services are big sources of revenues for carmakers and tech companies alike. Jeep pointed out Fire TV for Auto will be bundled with other connected services when it's available in the fall of 2021. There's no word yet on how much it will cost, and whether an additional subscription will be required to use it, but it certainly won't be free.

Jeep will introduce the 2022 Wagoneer and the 2022 Grand Wagoneer on March 11, so we won't have to wait long to find out more about both SUVs. Sales will start in the coming months. Nothing suggests Fire TV for Auto is Jeep-specific, so the technology will undoubtedly spread to models built by other carmakers in the coming years.
2022 Jeep Grand Wagoneer and Wagoneer getting Amazon Fire TV for Auto | Autoblog
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Will be interesting to see how much market share these can pull from the Tahoe/Suburban & Expedition/EL, and their brand siblings sales.
Not a huge fan of that rear shot above, but overall it's a nice looking truck, if the production version comes out similar.
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The all-new 2022 Jeep Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer mark the rebirth of a premium American icon, with legendary capability courtesy of three available 4x4 systems, exceptional driving dynamics, powerful performance, including best-in-class towing capability of up to 10,000 lbs., advanced technology, safety and a new level of comfort for up to eight passengers - all wrapped in a sophisticated and authentic new design culminating in an undeniable presence.

"We are ready to start a new exciting adventure with a model that wrote some of the most iconic pages in the history of the American automobile," said Christian Meunier, Jeep® Brand Chief Executive Officer. "Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer are born from the Jeep brand, but they have a flair of their own, building on a rich heritage of craftsmanship and refinement, while offering new levels of sophistication, comfort and legendary 4x4 capability, as well as a new level of customer service."

As a premium extension of the Jeep brand, Wagoneer launches with a portfolio of vehicles that includes two models: the all-new 2022 Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer. While the Jeep brand broadly covers the North American mainstream SUV market from the compact to full-size segments, Wagoneer will significantly expand into the large SUV segment while Grand Wagoneer competes in the premium segment.

Jeep Wagoneer, designed and engineered to compete in the heart of the large SUV segment, appeals to the classic, ever-growing American family and the couple that has it all. Creating an adventure with the ability to seat up to eight passengers and carry everything that comes with them is what the Wagoneer experience is all about. A best-in-class towing capability of up to 10,000 lbs. allows for almost any toy to be towed while occupants sit comfortably inside enjoying gracefully integrated advanced technology and connectivity.

Jeep Grand Wagoneer will compete in the premium, large SUV segment and take American premium to an entirely new level. Every seat in the Grand Wagoneer is a first-class experience. Creating a modern interpretation of the American dream, executed with an overtone of artisanal adventure, celebrates what Grand Wagoneer is all about. Grand Wagoneer is for those with a sense of adventure and for celebrating the American dream that is discovering idyllic parts of the country in comfort.

To build the highest level of confidence in both the product and the vehicle purchase process, the brand is making 10 promises to every Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer owner. Wagoneer Certified Dealers are those dealers who have a dedicated Wagoneer display area in the showroom, as well as the new-vehicle delivery area, all while delivering on the 10 Customer Promises, including:
  • Dealers who earn a "Customer First" award for excellence by J.D. Power earn the chance to host Wagoneer customers
  • Offers remote showroom, test drives and delivery for sales and vehicle pickup/delivery for service
  • Wagoneer Client Services, which includes 24/7 customer support and five years of worry-free maintenance
The epitome of American artisanship, the 2022 Wagoneer is available in Series I (late availability), Series II and Series III. Grand Wagoneer offers Series I, Series II, Series III and Obsidian.

Built in Warren, Michigan, the 2022 Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer models are scheduled to arrive in showrooms in the second half of 2021.

Modern interpretation of an American-made icon

The 2022 Jeep Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer models boast an elegant design with a timeless silhouette featuring countless meticulously crafted details that come together to deliver an undeniable presence. The new exterior design is confident, crafted with a wide stance, and features large architecturally drawn windows for enhanced outward visibility.

Inspired by the original SUV, the 2022 Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer are a modern interpretation of American success that creates a new timeless, iconic design. The legendary seven-slot grille hints at family ties to the Jeep brand and, on Grand Wagoneer models, features paint-over-chrome laser-etched grille rings, similar to a knurled finish seen on fine watches. Grand Wagoneer Series III models feature raised aluminum badging with two-piece copperchino-accented letters that add to the refinement and highlight the attention to detail.

Distinct exterior features differentiate the two models. Wagoneer models feature LED headlamps, fog lamps, accent badging and a standard side step. Grand Wagoneer models feature a two-tone black accent roof, distinctive hood, front end, grille, unique premium LED lighting, fender flares and power retractable side steps as standard equipment. Front tow hooks are incorporated into both models' front end when equipped with the Heavy Duty Trailer Tow Package.

Jeep Wagoneer models feature four steel skid plates that protect the front axle, transfer case, fuel tank and rear stabilizer bushing (with Advanced All-Terrain Group).

Premium LED lighting with signature daytime running lamps (DRLs) flank the grille and provide a premium appearance with a Gloss Black background to accent its jewel-like appearance. The LED DRLs form an elegant outline of the grille, help emphasize the width and overall front end of the vehicle. A full suite of exterior LED lights with Dynamic Turn Signal, including premium LED headlamps, fog lamps and taillamps, amplifies the new aesthetic. Upon remote start, Grand Wagoneer's exterior LED lights subtly engage with an available full "welcome" sequence.

A quick glance at the side profile reveals a stately, distinguished silhouette. The clean roofline and an A-line that runs all the way around the vehicle pay homage to the original Wagoneer. This functional structure features pillars that begin to define the rest of the vehicle instead of being hidden under lacquer. An acoustic laminated windshield and front door glass are standard equipment to reduce ambient noise levels.

From the rear, LED taillamps stretch from the rear quarter panel to the standard hands-free power liftgate, achieving an upscale appearance. Unique "Series" badging on the liftgate showcases in a subtle way how a particular vehicle is configured.

Wagoneer comes standard on 20-inch wheels, while an optional 22-inch painted and polished wheel is also available. Grand Wagoneer models come standard on 20- or 22-inch aluminum wheels featuring four different finishes and textures. A three-dimensional wheel cap highlighting the Wagoneer logo is suspended in acrylic.

Jeep Grand Wagoneer Obsidian (summer 2021) includes 22-inch black wheels, Black Oynx grille and badging, Gloss Black exterior mirrors, body-color wheel and door flares, Dark Onyx chiseled metal instrument panel trim, Global Black instrument panel and doors, Piano Black appliques and a McIntosh 1,375-watt premium audio system.

Exterior color options include Diamond Black, Bright White, Luxury White, Silver Zynith, Baltic Gray, Velvet Red and River Rock Blue. Grand Wagoneer models are also available in Midnight Sky Blue, Rocky Mountain Green and Ember Red.

An interior that exudes American craftsmanship, heritage and comfort

The pinnacle of premium SUV interiors is created with a modern American style, meticulously crafted details and elegant appointments. A spacious interior combines precision artistry and high-quality authentic materials throughout that accentuates an obsession to detail while celebrating American craftsmanship.

While the original Grand Wagoneer famously featured an extensive use of wood on its exterior, the 2022 Grand Wagoneer features genuine handcrafted Satin American Walnut wood in abundance on the interior. Sculpted Satin American Walnut wood was chosen both for its elegance and durability. Once seen primarily on yachts and in the most extravagant estates, sculpted Satin American Walnut wood is now a premium material. This is one of the many examples of how the Wagoneer design team was able to create a new chapter of the original Grand Wagoneer's story in a modern way.

Wagoneer features a one-piece instrument panel, accentuating the grandeur of the interior, while Grand Wagoneer features a two-piece design, with an optional Piano Black mid-bolster that gracefully integrates advanced technology and connectivity. The Piano Black mid-bolster appears to float above a structural wing crafted from aluminum and cradles the sculpted Satin American Walnut wood with "Grand Wagoneer" inlaid in metal on the passenger side of the instrument panel. Aluminum was also chosen as a key material for creating the door speakers and vent surroundings. A formed aluminum trim with an embossed pattern is available on Grand Wagoneer as well and underlines the passenger screen. The center console emerges from under the structural aluminum wing and flows out of the lower panel, adding a fluid design element to the spacious cabin. An aluminum shift knob, featuring an ambient glow, sits at the base of the of the center console and is flanked by toggle switches that control Selec-Terrain and ride height systems.

The start button is surrounded by a knurl-patterned bezel and, on Grand Wagoneer models, is wrapped in leather with a French accent stitch, presenting itself atop the carved wood or metal trim. An available class-exclusive touchpad-controlled safe allows for secure storage underneath the split front armrest. A storage bin is standard and a cooled storage bin is also available.

Sleek inboard and outboard HVAC vents are surrounded by a liquid chrome bezel for a precise and premium and robust appearance with full functionality. Wagoneer features a three-zone Heating, Ventilation and Air Conditioning (HVAC) system, while Grand Wagoneer features a four-zone HVAC system with a 10.25-inch articulating front comfort display and a 10.25-inch fixed rear comfort screen.

All models offer leather trimmed seats as standard equipment. Wagoneer models feature Nappa leather trimmed seats, including 12-way power front seats with memory settings, power lumbar support and four-way manual headrest. Grand Wagoneer Series I models offer premium Nappa leather-trimmed seats as standard equipment while Grand Wagoneer Series II and Series III models offer an even more opulent Palermo leather-trimmed seating option with quilting and leather-wrapped instrument panel, consoles and door panels with accent stitching. Grand Wagoneer comes with 24-way power front seats, including memory settings and massage, power lumbar support and four-way powered headrests. Passenger memory seats are also standard on Grand Wagoneer. Other modern-yet-familiar options include first- and second-row heated/ventilated seats, heated steering wheel, memory steering column and adjustable pedals.

Seating for up to eight passengers is available on all models and features a spacious third row - a first for the nameplate. Front- and second-row captain's chairs - another first-time offering - are available on Wagoneer and standard on Grand Wagoneer.

The most spacious and luxurious Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer interior ever offers best-in-class overall passenger volume, total volume (passengers and cargo behind the third row), unsurpassed second- and best-in-class third-row headroom and legroom and the most cargo volume behind the third row. Getting to the third row is made easier by the second-row seat's power release Tip n' Slide function, which creates more space for passengers to get to their seat. Configuring the third row for passengers or cargo is easy, as the seat can both recline and fold flat.

Many of the interior elements pay tribute to the Wagoneer's rich history, such as the two-spoke steering wheel. This modern interpretation of Wagoneer's leather-wrapped steering wheel features added comfort with a bolstered hand-grip where a third steering wheel spoke is normally located. Opening the Grand Wagoneer's driver- and front-passenger side doors reveal the outer edge of the instrument panel, which features an inscription - EST. 1963 - paying homage to the first model year of the original Wagoneer.

Modern, technical and detail-oriented appointments are crafted to exemplify American quality and personify prestige, success and accomplishment. A unified focus on integrated opulence and technology delivers an innovative experience for each passenger.

The relaxed atmosphere of the interior - accentuated by the use of five customizable ambient lighting themes, proximity entry/exit lighting and interior-mounted LED door puddle lamps - is delivered through a timeless design combined with the soul of Americana that will continue to solidify Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer's iconic place in history.

A technology-rich interior for drivers and passengers alike

The most technologically advanced Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer ever feature next-generation innovations, including the new advanced Uconnect 5 system, digital rearview mirror, exclusive Rear Seat Monitoring Camera, head-up display, frameless digital cluster and a premium McIntosh audio system for a vehicle.

All-new Uconnect 5 system

The 2022 Jeep Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer feature the latest, most advanced Uconnect system ever, with a 10.1- or 12-inch digital display and intuitive user experience. The all-new Uconnect 5 delivers operating speeds that are five times faster when compared to the previous generation. By using an Android operating system and over-the-air updates, Uconnect 5 brings flexibility that allows the system to continuously evolve to offer new content, features and services.

The Uconnect 5 system offers more connected services and features for unmatched ease of use. The suite of system highlights includes:
  • 10.1- and 12-inch reconfigurable touchscreen displays featuring split-screen capability for dual-application operation
  • 10.25-inch passenger screen with four major functions: Co-Pilot (navigation, device management), entertainment (via HDMI or Rear Seat Entertainment control) and the ability to view the exterior vehicle cameras and Fire TV for Auto
  • Alexa "Home to Car" functionality to include in-vehicle Alexa virtual assistant with natural voice capability and "Car to Home" features
  • Five user profiles plus a valet mode - customizable music preferences, apps, seat position, mirror angles and climate comfort levels
  • Fully customizable home screen for quick access to frequently used features and one-touch operation
  • Simultaneous connectivity for two Bluetooth-enabled phones
  • Wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto
  • Expanded connected services (Uconnect Market, Uconnect mobile app)
  • SiriusXM 360L platform and new Personalized Stations Powered by Pandora
  • TomTom navigation with predictive search, natural speak and live traffic updates
  • Maps over-the-air (OTA) updates at the push of a button for Uconnect NAV system
  • 4G LTE Wi-Fi hotspot to connect up to eight wireless devices
Passengers will be easily able to stay connected while on the go. Functionality is enhanced for front-row passengers with an available wireless charging pad and connectivity ports that are sculpted for quick recognition. In addition to wireless charging, Wagoneer and Grand Wagoner feature up to 11 USB ports (with Rear Seat Entertainment, eight USB ports without), three in the front row (four with passenger display) plus standard dual USB Type C ports that allow devices to charge up to four times faster, three in the second row (five when equipped with Rear Seat Entertainment) and two in the third row.

Jeep Grand Wagoneer is available with up to 75 inches of total digital display screen area while Wagoneer is available with 50 inches of total digital display screen area. Nearly 45 inches of total screen spanning the length of the instrument panel: 10.25 inches on Wagoneer or 12.3-inch instrument cluster on Grand Wagoneer, a 10.1-inch (Wagoneer) or 12-inch (Grand Wagoneer) horizontal touchscreen serves as the main display screen in the center console, with a 10.25-inch horizontal comfort display touchscreen below, separated by the structural aluminum wing. When equipped with the optional Rear Seat Entertainment system, the cluster, radio and passenger screens all show a coordinated animation display upon vehicle start-up.

Additionally, an available 10.25-inch passenger screen provides the front passenger with dynamic touchscreen control at their fingertips. The passenger screen has four major functions: Co-Pilot (navigation, device management), entertainment (via HDMI or Rear Seat Entertainment control), Fire TV for Auto and the ability to view the exterior vehicle cameras. Passenger screens in both the front and rear feature an HDMI plug, which lets occupants connect their phone or tablet, turning the touchscreen into a mirrored extension of their device, allowing internet searches, music and app use to project through the Uconnect 5 system.

Second-row passengers in the Grand Wagoneer have 30 inches of total screen space at their disposal with a 10.25-inch comfort display screen housed on the center console located between the two captain's chairs. Each second-row passenger also has access to their own 10.1-inch entertainment touchscreen with the available Rear Seat Entertainment system, which features independent streaming capabilities from major content providers.

Passengers can now enjoy the first Fire TV for Auto integration, featuring touchscreen displays, Alexa, and access to hundreds of thousands of movies, TV shows and apps. Passengers can watch their favorite shows independently while listening through headphones, or the whole family can tune-in through the vehicle's audio system. With built-in Fire TV for Auto, parents also have access to Amazon Kids+ for a worry-free experience that ensures younger passengers enjoy age-appropriate content.

A Fire TV for Auto-specific remote works on all screens to provide control of the experience and includes push-to-talk access to Alexa, making it easy to find and quickly play shows. The remote includes a button that connects Fire TV for Auto with the new Uconnect 5 system for control of vehicle features, such as climate, maps and more.

When equipped with front passenger display, Relax Mode is available while the vehicle is in park and offers occupants an immersive experience by combining dramatic, multi-screen visuals with ambient lighting across the entire cockpit. There are five videos to choose from and each is inspired by natural wonders or phenomenon.

Leading-edge technology

The 2022 Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer offer a windshield head-up display (HUD). The full color display is configurable up to 10 inches and features three (simple, standard, advanced) predefined configurations with layouts, including Lane Departure, Lane Keep Assist, Adaptive Cruise Control, turn-by-turn navigation, current speed, current gear and speed limit. All HUD settings can be personalized and saved within the driver profiles.

An available fully digital rearview mirror provides an unobstructed rear view that enhances safety and visibility. The digital rearview mirror displays video in real time from a rear-facing camera, offering an image that is unobstructed by the D-pillars or rear seats. It also reverts back to a traditional reflective mirror by toggling the switch underneath.

A new standard 10.25-inch (12.3-inch on Grand Wagoneer models) frameless digital gauge cluster features nearly two dozen different menus that the user can select from, including driver-assist technologies such as adaptive cruise control, active driving assist, night vision, drowsy driver detection and speed limit traffic signs display. Additional settings include media being played, caller identification, digital speed readout, drive modes or tire pressure. Also offered is a full-screen, turn-by-turn navigation map and off-road pitch-and-roll display. The full-color cluster features five reconfigurable tiles for at-a-glance data, or quick and easy access to the most used information. Drivers may choose between analog or digital instrumentation. All cluster settings can be saved to a user profile as part of Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer's full vehicle customization and automatically recalled for each driver. On-screen graphics are delivered in real-time, animated 3D.

An available rear seat monitoring camera projects a high-definition image and delivers several segment exclusives, including a split-view display and a unique "zoom-to-seat" function.

Rear seat monitoring camera views are accessible through the Uconnect touchscreen and allows the driver to quickly view the entire cabin, as well as to easily zoom-in on each seat location. Memory setting functions keep the zoomed image focused on the most recent position viewed, making the system easier to use and limiting driver distraction. The camera is positioned on the headliner between the second- and third-row seats. Three infrared lights surround the camera and illuminate the cabin in low-light conditions. The system automatically switches between day and night modes for added visibility and convenience.

Interior mood lighting features two zones (upper and lower), each available with five colors: white, blue, aqua, gold and amber and selectable through the touchscreen.

The pinnacle of design-focused audio, emanating luxury sound

For more than 70 years, McIntosh has created high-quality, handcrafted, American-made audio products and systems for homes, concert venues and iconic moments in music history across the globe. McIntosh - a classic American luxury brand known for its distinguished offerings- has collaborated with Stellantis to deliver an industry exclusive, high-fidelity audio system.

Jeep Wagoneer and McIntosh engineers worked closely to develop, test and tune groundbreaking entertainment systems that complement the vehicle's unique interior volume and layout. McIntosh carried some of its patented technologies from the home side into the Wagoneer's systems, including Power Guard® for unrivaled clarity even at high-volume levels. The audio system has Low Distortion/High Performance (LD/HP) speaker design to minimize distortion and provide an unparalleled listening experience.

Signature audio performance is delivered through a choice of two levels of performance:
  • Available on Wagoneer Series III and Grand Wagoneer Series I and Series II models is the McIntosh MX950 Entertainment System, a custom-tuned 19-speaker system, including a 10-inch subwoofer, strategically placed throughout the interior and powered by a 17-channel 950-watt amplifier
  • Available on Grand Wagoneer Series I and Series II, standard on Grand Wagoneer Series III, the premium and exclusive McIntosh MX1375 Reference Entertainment System, which employs 23 specifically tuned speakers, including one of the highest performing 12-inch subwoofers in the industry, is powered by a 24-channel 1375-watt amplifier, with dedicated amp channels to drive active speakers, creating a tailored and immersive 3D Adaptive Sound Processing that uses algorithms to asses source material and selectively apply 3D effects based on the type of the content. This patented technology gives a sense of space and recreates realistic ambience of a musical venue - concert or recording studio. The speaker grills, designed by the Wagoneer Interior Design Team, epitomize the premium nature of the Wagoneer brand, while also capturing the essence of the McIntosh brand identity
In conjunction with the outstanding audio quality, the Wagoneer's McIntosh audio systems are aesthetically designed to complement luxurious interior. Special attention was given to ensure that the audio system's ornate controls replicated the look and feel of McIntosh amplifier control knobs. In Grand Wagoneer, the McIntosh logos appearing on the door speaker grills are backlit in the brand's signature blue color, adding to the ambiance created by the interior's custom ambient lighting. Completing the experience are the signature blue meters with dancing needles and power guard notification displayed on all McIntosh home equipment, which is also integrated in the radio central display. The aim of the whole project was to carry McIntosh's sound and design philosophy from a home to an automotive environment with acoustics that is powerful, authentic, transparent and detailed.

These exceptional McIntosh audio systems are available on Wagoneer Series III and all Grand Wagoneer trim levels.

High-tech safety and security features

The 2022 Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer offer more than 120 safety and security features, including innovative applications of technologies that refine the connection between driver, vehicle and the road.

Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer offer more than 120 standard safety features across the lineup, including:
  • Automatic Emergency Braking with pedestrian and cyclist detection
  • Adaptive Cruise Control with Stop and Go
  • Active Lane Management
  • Blind-spot Monitoring
  • Rear Cross Path detection
  • Rear park assist sensors with stop
  • Switch-activated electric park brake
Segment-leading innovation

Jeep Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer arrive with a combination of class-leading safety features that enhance a driver's field of vision, help make instrumentation easier to see and enable driver-assist capabilities that accommodate collision avoidance.

Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer feature a new electrical architecture system that enables secure messaging in Controller Area Network (CAN) communications, which allows for enhanced driver assist features, such as Hands-free Active Driving Assist autonomous functionality.

Autonomous vehicle capabilities include Active Driving Assist, Hands-free Active Driving Assist and ParkSense Automated Parking System.

Active Driving Assist is the company's' name for Level 2 (L2) automated driving capability. The technology affirms the company's march toward an autonomous future. Grand Wagoneer is available with Active Driving Assist for hands-on-wheel and eyes-on-road automated driving using lane centering with adaptive cruise control. The system uses multiple sensors, including radars and cameras to dictate appropriate roads for the technology.

Hands-free Active Driving Assist (late availability) offers hands-off driving at all speeds and lane centering on approved roadways, for even greater driving convenience. The system will predictively slow the vehicle down in tight curves, automatically resume control after driver override and verify that the driver is paying attention to the road.

Night Vision with Pedestrian and Animal Detection uses thermographic technology to augment the reach of the vehicle's headlamps. Infrared sensors search for the heat signatures of pedestrians and animals in the road ahead, at distances up to 219 yards (200 meters). When located, their positions, relative to the vehicle, are outlined in the instrument cluster directly in front of the driver.

Intersection Collision Assist helps detect vehicles approaching from the driver's left and right when nearing a crossroad. Four radar sensors and one camera determine if a collision appears imminent, prompting the system to provide audible and visual alerts. If the driver does not respond, the system automatically activates the vehicle's brakes. The feature is available on Wagoneer and standard on Grand Wagoneer models.

Drowsy Driver Detection tracks vehicle movement, such as lane deviation and interaction, such as steering wheel input over time, for driving behavior consistent with that of a drowsy driver. When certain thresholds are reached, the system responds with audio and/or visual cautions for the driver to pull over. If the driver fails to react in such circumstances, the system can intervene with steering wheel input and/or brake activation.

The Digital Rearview Mirror system replaces the conventional rearview mirror with a 9.2-inch LCD that shows real-time video from a rear-facing camera. Unlike a conventional rearview mirror, the digital camera system offers a view that is unobstructed by the D-pillars or rear seats. When not in use as a display, the screen reverts back to a reflective mirror by toggling the switch underneath.

Available Traffic Sign Recognition uses a forward-facing camera to identify speed-limit and related traffic signs, such as those denoting school and construction zones.

An additional safety and security feature, available on Wagoneer and standard on Grand Wagoneer, is Surround View Camera. The system offers 360-degree, bird's-eye views of the vehicle and its surroundings, enhanced by dynamic gridlines displayed on a 10.1-inch or 12-inch digital touchscreen.

With front and rear lens washers, the system is enhanced by Front Park Assist, which helps the driver position the vehicle. The Surround View Camera is available on Wagoneer and standard on Grand Wagoneer models.

Equipment levels on Grand Wagoneer are elevated even further with ParkSense Automated Parking System, which uses ultrasonic sensors to guide the driver into parking spaces. Stellantis is the first automaker to use this technology with a live, dedicated view on the infotainment screen for easy viewing.

A full suite of LED lighting includes LED headlamps that provide exceptional performance with a balanced beam of light that minimizes glare for oncoming traffic, while doubling the light output directly in front of the vehicle for improved illumination of the road ahead. Side lighting improves visibility while cornering and is activated by either steering wheel angle input or turn signal activations when the headlamps are on.

The body-on-frame's design features innovative engineering that leverages the attributes of high-strength steel to help direct crash energy away from the cabin. It also features eight air bags: driver front, driver knee, passenger front, passenger knee, left first-row side, left-side curtain, right first-row side and right-side curtain airbags.

As standard equipment, active head restraints help mitigate injury risks associated with rear collisions, while there are three LATCH positions for safety-seat placement when the vehicle is configured with a second-row bench.

Three available 4x4 systems are the foundation of legendary capability

Three available 4x4 systems (Quadra-Trac I, Quadra-Trac II and Quadra-Drive II), an available Quadra-Lift air suspension and Selec-Terrain traction management system, instill this premium SUV with legendary capability.

Quadra-Trac I delivers full-time four-wheel drive without any switches to push or levers to pull. The system provides smooth operation of the vehicle over a variety of road conditions. This proven, lightweight single-speed transfer case is efficient for enhanced fuel economy and improves traction by moving torque to the wheel with the most grip.

The Quadra-Trac II's two-speed transfer case uses input from a variety of sensors to determine tire slip at the earliest possible moment and takes corrective action. The system also uses throttle to anticipate quick movement from a stop and maximizes traction before tire slippage occurs. When wheel slippage is detected, as much as 100% of available torque is instantly routed to the wheel with the most traction.

Quadra-Drive II, with a rear Electronic Limited-slip Differential (ELSD), delivers industry-leading tractive capability. The system instantly detects tire slip and smoothly distributes engine torque to tires with traction. In some cases, the vehicle will anticipate low traction and adjust in order to proactively limit or eliminate slip.

Selec-Terrain is standard with Quadra-Trac II and Quadra-Drive II and five settings: Auto, Sport, Rock, Snow and Sand/Mud.

A mechanical limited slip differential is standard and an available rear electronic limited slip differential enhances traction in any condition.

Selec-Terrain

Class-leading Selec-Terrain traction control system allows customers to choose the on- and off-road setting for optimum 4x4 performance. This feature electronically coordinates up to 12 different powertrain, braking, 4x4 torque split and suspension systems, including throttle control, transmission shift, transfer case, Hill-descent Control and Selec-Speed Control.

The Selec-Terrain system has been refined for Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer duty and offers five different driving conditions to achieve the best driving experience on all terrains:
  • Auto: Automatically adapts to any on- or off-road situation
  • Sport: Engaged with the push of a button and provides enhanced on-road "fun-to-drive" capability
  • Rock: Quadra-Lift air suspension system raises to maximum height of 10 inches, while the transfer case, differentials, and throttle coordinate to provide low-speed control
  • Snow: Vehicle traction adjusts for ultimate performance over snow-covered roads
  • Sand/Mud: Traction control and Quadra-Lift operate with sensitive response to wheel spin, and torque tuned for optimal performance in sand/mud
Selec-Speed Control with Hill-ascent and Hill-descent Control allows drivers to control vehicle speed both up and down steep, rugged grades with Electronic Range Select (ERS) control on the steering wheel - without the need for throttle or brake pedals.

Selec-Terrain, coupled with the Quadra-Lift air suspension, offers drivers an adjustable suspension span that delivers legendary 4x4 performance.

Quadra-Lift air suspension system

The Quadra-Lift air suspension system adds up to 3.6 inches of lift span supported by four-corner air springs that provide an air-cushioned, premium ride. Quadra-Lift operates automatically or may be controlled manually with console controls.

The Quadra-Lift system features five height settings for optimum ride performance:
  • Normal Ride Height (NRH): 8 inches of clearance offers improved fuel economy, as well as improved aerodynamics during on-road driving
  • Off-road 1: Lifts the vehicle an additional inch from NRH for added height in clearing obstacles (9 inches)
  • Off-road 2: Delivers legendary off-road capability and provides an additional 2 inches from NRH for 10 inches of ground clearance
  • Park Mode: Lowers the vehicle 1.6 inches from NRH for easy ingress/egress. NRH and Park Mode are driver selectable, allowing the driver full control over vehicle ride height
  • Aero Mode: Lowers the vehicle 0.6 inches from NRH. Aero Mode is controlled by vehicle speed and adjusts for optimal performance and fuel economy. The vehicle will also lower to Aero Mode when in Sport Mode
When the vehicle is operating in Eco Mode, it lowers itself to Aero Mode, further enhancing vehicle aerodynamics for optimum efficiency.

Trailer Hitch Line-up Assist with zoom allows for a seamless connection to a trailer. With help from the rear-facing camera, dynamic grid lines assist in lining the trailer up and a zoom function on-screen allows for an even closer view, ensuring a proper connection every time. Combined with the adjustable Quadra-Lift air suspension system, drivers can lower the vehicle under the trailer hitch, making hook-up a breeze.

As the vehicle approaches 35 miles per hour (mph), a standard active front air dam automatically extends downward 3.5 inches. The available air suspension system lowers the vehicle 0.6 inches, improving overall aerodynamics and efficiency. An active grille shutter system automatically closes the airflow through the grille when cooling is least needed.

The cooling system has been optimized with enhanced sealing and active grill shutter hardware controls to maximize warm-up, drag and powertrain cooling when cruising and towing.

The 2022 Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer feature a 25-degree approach angle, 24-degree departure angle, 22-degree breakover angle and a ground clearance of 10 inches. This combination enables up to 24 inches of water-fording capability.

All-new architecture delivers sophisticated on-road driving dynamics and composed capability

The 2022 Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer feature an all-new architecture that delivers sophisticated on-road driving dynamics, a lightweight, durable body-on-frame design, composed 4x4 capability and best-in-class towing.

Substantial emphasis was placed on designing an all-new body-on-frame structure that uses high-strength steel to bolster vehicle performance, safety, reliability and reduce overall weight. The result is a body structure that is both strong and lightweight, balanced yet functional. Premium manners are enhanced with approximately 6,500 welds in the body alone. The use of lightweight, high-strength aluminum closures, including the hood, doors and composite liftgate, helps reduce weight and boost fuel economy.

Frame-mounted high-strength steel tire blockers are placed behind the front tires to force the wheels outward in the event of impact. Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer's frame features side rails that are tall and fully boxed. Frame cross members are double sheer welded to the inside and outside of the frame for improved durability and roll stiffness.

Premium driving dynamics and refined on-road manners are thanks, in part, to a front and rear independent suspension. New front independent double wishbone suspension components combine lightweight composite upper control arms, aluminum lower control arms and geometry tuned for responsiveness and handling. The front stabilizer bar sits behind the front tires, further enhancing roll stiffness. A rear multi-link, coil-spring suspension provides a superior on-road ride, bolsters handling and provides better articulation over obstacles.

A front and rear coil-over shock design is standard equipment on all models. The standard steel suspension features rear load-leveling capability, which automatically detects load on the suspension from a trailer or payload. The gas pressure increases until the vehicle reaches normal ride height, leveling out and improving the loaded ride.

Jeep Wagoneer comes standard with coil spring suspension while an air suspension system with electronically controlled semi-active damping - available on Wagoneer, standard on Grand Wagoneer - further enhances ride quality. The air suspension features a closed loop system that recycles clean air that results in improved compressor durability. This air suspension system continuously adjusts stiffness to loading conditions to optimize ride performance. An external valve block and secondary air reservoir allow for both axles to lower simultaneously. Electronically controlled semi-active damped shocks on air suspension vehicles continuously adjust to road conditions and driving styles.

New active/electronic-tuned mass module absorbs more vibration and movement when at idle. This feature offers enhanced levels of comfort, versatility and performance. An enhanced active noise cancellation system, along with door seals and acoustic glass round out the enhancements that bring NVH and wind noise down to a whisper.

An electric power steering (EPS) system has been carefully calibrated to deliver a natural steering feel and enhances fuel economy. The electric motor works with an adaptive engine control unit (ECU) to monitor steering speed, steering wheel angle and vehicle speed. This allows for variable amounts of steering assistance to be applied, for example, when more is needed at low speeds maneuvering through a parking lot, or less when at highway speeds to enhance vehicle stability. The EPS system uses a variable rate ratio to improve maneuverability while maintaining on-center stability in all driving conditions.

Refined and proven V-8 power offers premium performance and best-in-class towing

The 2022 Wagoneer carries the proven 5.7-liter V-8 engine fitted with the next-generation 48-volt eTorque hybrid as standard equipment. The 2022 Grand Wagoneer is powered by the potent and smooth 6.4-liter V-8 engine. Both engines deliver performance, drivability and, when equipped properly, best-in-class towing capabilities of up to 10,000 lbs.

5.7-liter V-8 engine with next-generation eTorque hybrid system

Standard on Wagoneer, the 5.7-liter V-8 combines the muscle of 392 horsepower and 404 lb.-ft. of torque in a smooth, broad power band, enhanced with fuel-saving technologies that include variable camshaft timing and cylinder deactivation.

The Jeep Wagoneer is the first vehicle with the next-generation eTorque hybrid system, which features enhancements to several fuel-saving features.

The eTorque hybrid system replaces the traditional engine-mounted alternator with a belt-driven motor generator unit. The motor generator unit works with a 48-volt battery pack to provide quick and seamless engine start/stop, torque addition to the engine crankshaft in certain driving situations and brake energy regeneration, which improves responsiveness and efficiency. The system enables up to 130 lb.-ft. of torque to be available on initial throttle tip-in.

The eTorque motor generator feeds energy to a 390 watt-hour lithium-ion 12-cell Nickel Manganese Cobalt (NMC)-Graphite battery. The small suitcase-size, air-cooled battery pack mounts to the floor inside the Wagoneer's cabin.

Enhancements for the next-generation eTorque include:
  • E-motor Assist: The eTorque motor provides electric assist to the engine from launch until the battery pack reaches a minimal state of charge, with the duration determined by throttle input from the driver.
  • Deceleration fuel shutoff: The system completely shuts off fuel delivery to the engine while the Wagoneer coasts down from highway speeds and under braking, enhancing economy.
  • No-delay start/stop: The Wagoneer anticipates rolling stops, shutting down the engine as soon as vehicle speed reaches 0 mph, enhancing fuel savings. Engine restart with the eTorque motor is seamless and instant, even in aggressive driving conditions. Wagoneer accessories are powered by the battery pack while the engine is stopped.
Jeep Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer are the latest vehicles from Stellantis to offer auto start/stop functionality on the highest paved roads in the United States, including Mount Evans (14,100 feet), and extended auto-stop durations of up to 10 minutes in ideal conditions.

The system recaptures energy during deceleration and braking feeds it to the battery pack. eTorque has been further optimized for cabin, battery pack, transmission and engine warming in cold conditions.

With Fuel Saver Technology (cylinder deactivation), the engine control computer turns off fuel and spark, and closes the intake and exhaust valves on four of the engine's eight cylinders during light load operation, such as highway cruising when full power is not needed.

Variable camshaft timing helps maximize fuel economy by reducing the engine's pumping work via a delayed closing of the intake valve, which increases the expansion process of the combustion event.

The 5.7-liter V-8 engine with eTorque hybrid assist in the 2022 Wagoneer features an 850-watt electric cooling fan using Pulse Width Modulation to tailor the fan's energy draw to the cooling demand. Eliminating the traditional fan blade mounted to the front of the engine reduces fan noise and helps improve fuel economy by reducing parasitic losses.

Wagoneer uses a 3.21 axle ratio with the 5.7-liter V-8 engine with eTorque hybrid assist.

6.4-liter V-8 engine

The 6.4-liter V-8 engine delivers 471 horsepower and 455 lb.-ft. of torque. It is engineered to provide a broad torque band to deliver the optimal blend of power and comfort regardless of the load and terrain.

Engineered to deliver class-leading V-8 performance and best-in-class towing capability, the 6.4-liter engine receives some unique adjustments to set new benchmarks for both power and performance. These include a unique exhaust manifold, intake manifold and moving the air box to the right side of the engine bay.

The 2022 Jeep Grand Wagoneer benefits from the V-8 engine's plentiful low-end torque, which delivers in demanding conditions such as towing a boat, camper or horse trailer.

The 6.4-liter V-8 enhances fuel economy with Fuel Saver Technology cylinder deactivation and variable camshaft timing.

Combined with a TorqueFlite eight-speed automatic transmission, Grand Wagoneer delivers a new level of performance: 0-60 mph in six seconds.

Grand Wagoneer is standard with the 6.4-liter V-8 engine and 3.92 axle ratio allowing customers to optimize fuel economy and vehicle capability.

TorqueFlite eight-speed automatic transmission

A standard robust TorqueFlite eight-speed automatic transmission optimizes engine output with smooth gear changes while on the trails or provides efficient power delivery at highway speeds.

The 5.7-liter V-8 with eTorque hybrid uses computer controllers that process data faster to coordinate with transmission operation. Transmission clutch management is improved for brake regeneration and refinements in shift time, feel and torque responsiveness. Transmission lubricants are heated to reduce viscosity-related efficiency losses. There are more than 40 individual shift maps to optimize shift changes and points for fuel economy, performance and drivability.

The TorqueFlite eight-speed transmission offers a smooth driving experience. Whether commuting during the week or going to the lake house on the weekend, customers will enjoy a smooth, linear power delivery.
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I wonder if they can squeeze the words "grand wagoneer" on a few more surfaces, in case people forget what vehicle they're in.
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I wonder if they can squeeze the words "grand wagoneer" on a few more surfaces, in case people forget what vehicle they're in.
Definitely some kind of result of PR/marketing research. Also notice no JEEP anywhere.

They're really trying to compete with the Navigator/Escalades. Basically trying to distance from the rough off-roading crowd and judging by that multi million dollar home its photographed in and of course the price...they're aiming for quite the higher income bracket buyers
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Definitely some kind of result of PR/marketing research. Also notice no JEEP anywhere.
I actually read an article about the lack of JEEP branding. I think it's a mistake, personally. I'm no JEEP fan, but they do have a rabid fan base of extremely loyal customers. I remember a similar debate when Porsche first introduced the Cayenne. There were those who thought Porsche was idiotic for sullying their strong sports car reputation by putting their name on an SUV. Well, we see how that turned out.
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Originally Posted by DJ Iceman
I actually read an article about the lack of JEEP branding. I think it's a mistake, personally. I'm no JEEP fan, but they do have a rabid fan base of extremely loyal customers. I remember a similar debate when Porsche first introduced the Cayenne. There were those who thought Porsche was idiotic for sullying their strong sports car reputation by putting their name on an SUV. Well, we see how that turned out.
This rabid fan base you speak of knows the weight of the Grand Wagoneer namesake. It doesn’t have to say Jeep.
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Definitely some kind of result of PR/marketing research. Also notice no JEEP anywhere.

They're really trying to compete with the Navigator/Escalades. Basically trying to distance from the rough off-roading crowd and judging by that multi million dollar home its photographed in and of course the price...they're aiming for quite the higher income bracket buyers
There was an article speaking with the Jeep CEO talking about things such as losing loyal Jeep fans to Escalades because they lacked a large high end offering. This is their attempt to recapture that market.

It will be interesting to see how sales are since they decided to release the 3 row Cherokee L. And of course the Durango. Granted the Wagoneer is larger and roomier...it still throws in another option to potentially cannibalize sales.
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https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...omy-announced/


The Jeep Grand Wagoneer is returning this summer as a massive three-row SUV, and the EPA is estimating that it is good for 15 mpg combined. There's also a cheaper and less luxurious Wagoneer, but its fuel economy estimates have not yet been announced. The Grand Wagoneer's EPA estimated fuel economy makes the big Jeep less efficient than other American luxury SUVs such as the Cadillac Escalade and Lincoln Navigator.

All Grand Wagoneers use a naturally aspirated 6.4-liter V-8 engine that produces 471 horsepower and 455 pound-feet of torque, and four-wheel drive is standard. The V-8 has cylinder deactivation and is paired with an eight-speed automatic transmission. The EPA estimates that the Grand Wagoneer will get 13 mpg in the city and 18 mpg on the highway. The Wagoneer will likely be more efficient, as it's powered by a 5.7-liter V-8 with a 48-volt belt-driven motor/generator system called eTorque. The
Ram 1500 with eTorque is rated 2 mpg higher than the model without the hybrid system.

Cadillac Escalades with four-wheel drive and the standard 6.2-liter V-8 engine are rated at 16 mpg combined, 13 mpg in the city and 19 mpg on the highway. The Lincoln Navigator, which uses a twin-turbocharged V-6 engine, is rated at 17 mpg combined, 16 mpg city, and 20 mpg highway. German luxury SUVs such as the BMW X7 and Mercedes-Benz GLS-class are EPA-rated at 21 mpg combined with their respective turbocharged six-cylinder engines.

Jeep says that both a hybrid model and hands-free driving will be available eventually. The 2022 Grand Wagoneer will arrive this summer starting at $88,995.
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This is basically the modern day Hummer H2 and will probably see the same sort of fallout as gas prices go above $5 a gallon.
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Are the new Jeep Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer not quite big enough for you? Well, you’re in luck as the automaker is preparing long-wheelbase variants of both models and was recently spied testing a camouflaged prototype.

The new models will take on the likes of the Cadillac Escalade ESV, Lincoln Navigator L, Chevrolet Suburban, and GMC Yukon XL and based on these spy shots, look largely the same as the standard-wheelbase models.

The current 2022 Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer are slightly longer than the standard wheelbase editions of GM’s trio of full-size SUVs at 214.7 in (5,453 mm) long, 83.6 in (2,123 mm) wide and 75.6 in (1,920 mm) tall with a 123.0 in (3,124 mm) wheelbase. By comparison, the Grand Wagoneer is 3.7 inches (94 mm) overall longer than the standard Cadillac Escalade (211.9 in. / 5,382 mm) with a 2.1 in. (53mm) longer wheelbase (Cadillac: 120.9 in. / 3,071 mm). It’s almost certain that the LWB Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer will top the Escalade ESV’s 134.1 in. (3,406 mm) wheelbase.

Besides the elongated wheelbase of this prototype, you’ll notice that the rear overhang has also grown, as have the rear side windows. This will result in greater space offered to second- and third-row passengers while also boosting cargo capacity. Few other design changes are visible on this prototype due to the black and white camouflage wrap adorning the exterior but it certainly has a big presence on the road. It is also unclear if this prototype is a Wagoneer or the more luxurious Grand Wagoneer variant.

As for the powertrain options, we expect them to remain the same as the current Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer that offer a 392-hp 5.7-liter HEMI V8 and a 471-hp 6.4-liter HEMI V8 respectively.

It isn’t yet known when the new models will be launched but they will probably be sold as either 2023 or 2024 models.

Speaking with Auto News, chairman of the Stellantis National Dealer Council, Dave Kelleher said he was optimistic that they would arrive this year. “As a dealer, I’m excited because it closes the loop and pretty much covers all of our competition,” he said. “We will have an answer for everything a customer could want.” Kelleher added the long-wheelbase models could carry a 10-15 percent price premium over the standard models.



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Can't say didn't see this coming:

https://www.thedrive.com/news/44483/...ftermarket-kit


The classic Jeep Grand Wagoneer was the OG luxury SUV. Heck, it was built in a time when those two words were mutually exclusive. It was instantly recognizable thanks to its trademark faux-woodgrain paneling, which stuck around until production ended in 1991. According to FCA North America's design chief Ralph Gilles, this was explicitly used to convey an upscale feel.

Now, the 2022 Grand Wagoneer has actual luxury features that do the job. That doesn't mean everyone's okay without the paneling, of course. As Gilles predicted, the aftermarket is stepping in to deliver.

When the folks at Wagonmaster—a Grand Wagoneer restoration shop in Texas—heard there would be a new iteration of their beloved luxury SUV, they quickly ordered one in. The immediate intention of the team, according to CEO Chip Miller, was to create a wood paneling kit similar to the original Woody, and that's exactly what they did.

Wagonmaster already creates a woodgrain kit for the original Grand Wagoneer that's popular with owners tackling their own restoration projects. That made it easy to use the existing parts stock and knowledge to build a kit for the new SUV.

The same vinyl woodgrain and trim used for the original Grand Wagoneer kit was fitted to the new SUV, cut and shaped in a way that better aligns with its modern shape.

The vinyl used today for both kits is essentially a digitally reproduced woodgrain that is then printed on automotive-grade vinyl rather than the 3M Di-Noc used on the original Grand Wagoneers from the factory. The lighter trim is a reproduction of the original, and Wagonmaster claims that it's the only company that offers trim kits indistinguishable from the original production run.

Apparently, the retro look has been a hit so far. Miller told The Drive that he has shipped kits to several dealers looking to recreate the classic Woody look on their own SUVs, as well as installed the package on several local Grand Wagoneers. The shop also created a thinner Woody-inspired stripe, but no word on whether that will make it past concept just yet.

If you're looking to pick up your own, Wagonmaster's kit will soon be available on its website. The full package, which includes both sides and the rear hatch, will run about $1,750 and will be offered for both the current-generation Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer.



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Not my style, but sort of flows with the black. Looks awful on the white.
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I saw my first one of these (not the Grand) out in the wild and think they look way better in person than in pictures. Definitely do not mind and would probably choose over the Tahoe.
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I see a Wagoneer regularly in the school run commute. Dark gray IIRC & looks like a beefier WL GC.
Would definitely be a contender if I were in the market for something that size.
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I actually like the wood on the white

I test drove a Grand Wagoneer at the LA auto show. My only complaint was the windshield had a weird aberration with the size and curve. Otherwise, it was luxurious as hell, massive, and very easy to drive. I enjoyed it. I can't afford one any way...but I would not want to have to fill that pig up. Its bigger and heavier than my former Durango, which got shit mpg.
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I actually like the wood on the white

I test drove a Grand Wagoneer at the LA auto show. My only complaint was the windshield had a weird aberration with the size and curve. Otherwise, it was luxurious as hell, massive, and very easy to drive. I enjoyed it. I can't afford one any way...but I would not want to have to fill that pig up. Its bigger and heavier than my former Durango, which got shit mpg.
I literally have this same thoughts anytime I see one of these massive SUVs at the gas station lol.
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My boss made a similar comment yesterday, that I'm probably glad to be driving a small car with gas prices on the rise.
Too bad the Malibu averages 21mpg, my F150 was 19-20 on the same commute.
Makes me miss the 37mpg the Merc would do on the highway.
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
I literally have this same thoughts anytime I see one of these massive SUVs at the gas station lol.
I never paid more than $60-65 when I had my Durango...and it was usually closer to $50-55...this was over 2 years ago. I couldn't imagine what I'd be shelling out now. Fuck that.
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
My boss made a similar comment yesterday, that I'm probably glad to be driving a small car with gas prices on the rise.
Too bad the Malibu averages 21mpg, my F150 was 19-20 on the same commute.
Makes me miss the 37mpg the Merc would do on the highway.
What are these gallons you speak of?

JK, I have to go fill my Jeep this weekend...not looking forward to it.
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Less than a week ago, General Motors reported that sales were down 20 percent for the first quarter of 2022. That sounds like bad news—and it is—but in context, it’s average: Nissan is down nearly 30 percent despite strong Frontier sales, Honda is off by 23 percent, and Toyota dropped by 15 percent. Hyundai is faring much better, seeing a decline of only four percent. With those numbers in mind, Stellantis is not doing too badly with a 14 percent downturn in U.S. sales. And embedded in that number is actually a bright spot.

Jeep sales have only dropped by two percent, largely on the backs of its updated Grand Cherokee and all-new Wagoneer line. Interestingly, the Wagoneer has outsold the Grand Wagoneer at a ratio of two to one; 7,055 Wagoneers were sold in Q1 to 3,169 Grand Wagoneers.

The difference in price between the two is staggering. Jeep’s Wagoneer starts at about $60,000 while the Grand Wagoneer takes its first name very seriously, adding nearly 30 grand to the base cost. Powerplants are also different; the Wagoneer brings a 392-hp, 5.7-liter V8 engine to the party while the Grand Wagoneer has a standard 471-hp 6.4-liter V8. Both are beefy behemoths on the road. I drove the Grand Wagoneer for 2,600 miles last year to evaluate it myself, and it does have a lot going for it, price aside.

Stellantis also reported that the Grand Cherokee had its best-ever Q1 total sales, which are up by 36 percent. Considering the long history of the Grand Cherokee, that’s a noteworthy feat. Retail sales were also up by an impressive amount, finishing the quarter up 44 percent.

Autotrader analyst Michelle Krebs told the Detroit Free Press that Stellantis could have done better.

"Stellantis sales came in a bit lower than we expected," Krebs said. "The automaker has done a pretty good job focusing on maintaining and building inventory of its biggest profit-margin vehicles like Ram trucks and Jeeps. Both Ram and Jeep have inventory that is at the high end of the spectrum."

With the market experiencing a lot of turbulence due to a number of financial factors and chip shortages not letting up any time soon, it will be interesting to see what happens in Q2.
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In my normal travel radius, it's been 3 or 4 to 1. I've only seen 1 GW, and it was on dealer plates. I see 1 or 2 regular Wagoneers a day.
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So...cheaper car sells a lot more than (a lot) more expensive car? In other news, water is wet.
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The Jeep Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer ranges are set to grow with the introduction of long-wheelbase models. Known as the 2023 Wagoneer L and Grand Wagoneer L, the latest derivatives now offer buyers even more space and practicality. Importantly, the brand new Hurricane twin-turbo engines will be made available, along with a new trim level, the Wagoneer Carbide.

Overall, the L models are 12 inches longer, now measuring 226.7 inches from front to rear. The wheelbase has increased by seven inches to 130 inches, improving passenger room and cargo space behind the third row of seats. Jeep says there's an extra 15.8 cubic feet of packing space now up for grabs.

"The new Wagoneer L and Grand Wagoneer L long-wheelbase models give our customers more: a more efficient and more powerful powertrain with the all-new Hurricane Twin Turbo engines, and even more space, delivering best-in-class overall passenger volume, second-row legroom, and cargo volume behind the third row," said Senior Vice President and Head of Jeep Brand North America, Jim Morrison.

These lofty claims are backed up by impressive figures. Second-row passengers have 42.7 inches of legroom at their disposal and, while those relegated to the third-row often suffer for space, this isn't the case on the lengthier Jeeps. Both offer up to 36.6 in of legroom for the rearmost passengers. Buyers can opt between seven- or eight-seater configurations.

Trunk space is enormous. Behind the third row, the Wagoneer L has up to 42.1 cubic feet of space and the Grand Wagoneer L 44.2 cubes. By comparison, the Cadillac Escalade ESV has 41.5 cubes behind the third row. With the third row folded, the Grand Wagoneer L has 88.8 cubes of trunk space (85.3 for the Wagoneer L). This rises to an auditorium-like 112.9 cubes when the third row is folded in the Grand Wagoneer L, or 130.9 cubes in the Wagoneer L.

The big news is the introduction of the Hurricane twin-turbo motor. The Wagoneer L will receive a lower state of tune, with 420 horsepower and 468 lb-ft of torque.

The high output variant is limited to the plusher Grand Wagoneer L, which boasts a heady 510-hp and 500 lb-ft. Despite the impressive outputs, Jeep says the six-cylinder is 15% more efficient than similarly powerful, larger V8 engines, returning an estimated 1-2 mpg improvement over the current breed of V8s. Both Hurricane engines are paired to an eight-speed automatic. Both rear- or all-wheel-drive models are offered.

While the long-wheelbase models retain the same architecture as their siblings, significant alterations to the platform have been made. A new rear floor, rear ladder structure, and third-row seat brackets and reinforcements were necessary for the lengthened models. So too was a revised rear tub and load floors.

Jeep has also introduced a Wagoneer Carbide trim. A blacked-out design gives it a sinister look, with a Gloss Black finish applied to the wheels, roof rack, grille, and several other exterior styling elements. The darkened theme continues inside, with unique touches such as technical hydrographic dash trim. This will be made available on the 2023 Wagoneer and Wagoneer L models in the second half of 2022.

The Wagoneer L receives a coil spring suspension setup, although it can be optioned with an air suspension system (standard on the Grand Wagoneer L). Both are available with three 4x4 systems: Quadra-Trac I, Quadra-Trac II, and Quadra-Drive II. This gives buyers even more choice. The Wagoneer L can tow up to 10,000 pounds in 2WD guise. Speaking of weight, the Grand Wagoneer L Series III weighs as much as 6,704 lbs.

Styling is subjective, but the lengthened variants aren't quite as handsome and well-proportioned as their shorter siblings. Both have plenty of presence but aren't as flashy as some rivals are known to be. But looks aren't of importance to the average full-size SUV buyer; it's the interior and standard specification that counts the most. As standard, both models receive an acoustic laminated windshield and front door glass to enhance refinement.

LED headlamps and leather-trimmed seats are also standard, although you'll have to opt for plusher models to receive Nappa leather upholstery. The poshest derivatives, such as the Grand Wagoneer L Series III, receive Palermo leather. Passengers won't want for anything in these spacious SUVs, as the Uconnect 5 system offers plenty of connectivity.

Wireless Android Auto and Apple CarPlay are standard, along with simultaneous Bluetooth connectivity for two phones. Wagoneer L models receive a 10.25-inch instrument cluster and a 10.1-inch horizontal main touchscreen. The Grand Wagoneer L gains larger screens, at 12.3 and 12 inches respectively.

If that's still not enough for you, buyers can opt for the 10.25-inch passenger screen sited ahead of the front passenger. The co-pilot can control the navigation and entertainment settings and can even view the vehicle cameras, among other things.

Those in the second row of the Grand Wagoneer L haven't been forgotten, though. A 10.25-inch comfort display screen can be found between the captain's chairs. An optional Rear Seat Entertainment system can transform the rear quarters into a truly luxurious place to be and passengers can enjoy built-in Amazon Fire TV, among other things.

Any luxury SUV worth its salt needs a high-end audio system and the lengthened Jeep twins don't disappoint. Standard on the Grand Wagoneer L Series I and Series II is the 19-speaker McIntosh MX950 Entertainment System which includes a 10-inch subwoofer. Plusher models receive a 23-speaker McIntosh system with a 12-inch subwoofer and a 24-channel 1375-watt amplifier.

The Toledo-based SUV maker has filled the Wagoneer L and Grand Wagoneer L with safety features designed to make driving stress-free. Adaptive cruise control, automatic emergency braking (with pedestrian and cyclist detection), blind-spot assist, rear cross-path detection, and active lane assist are standard. Night vision, drowsy driver detection, traffic sign recognition, and much more forms part of the comprehensive safety suite.

Jeep has said that both models will be made available in the second half of 2022 as 2023 models, with Jeep hoping to get a slice of the long-wheelbase full-size SUV pie. The Wagoneer L caters to the more mainstream market, while the plusher Grand Wagoneer L will battle the Escalade ESV.

The Jeep brand name doesn't have the cachet of Cadillac but, the standard-wheelbase Grand Wagoneer still managed to outsell its rivals from Lincoln and Lexus in the first quarter of 2022 - expect the L models to do the same. Pricing is yet to be announced and will likely surface closer to the on-sale dates.









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Good lord this thing is huge. The normal one is massive as it is and they're now making one that 12" longer??? I'm not even sure something like this would even fit in my garage lol.

Also a 1-2mpg improvement over what was, frankly, awful before isn't all that good. Might as well have stuck with the V8 and added a hybrid boost instead.
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I think a Suburban would just barely fit in my garage. My CCSB F150 fit with a bit of room at the back.
These (and the non-L versions) look narrower than the Suburban/Expedition, but the Sub/Tahoe have a disproportionate look to them (tall/narrow) compared to their prior gen. The W & GW don't have that problem.
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We know the long-wheelbase 2023 Jeep Wagoneer L and Grand Wagoneer L are debuting Stellantis' new 3.0-liter Hurricane twin-turbo I-6 engine. We also know that the regular-wheelbase 6.4-liter Grand Wagoneer is slated to offer to the lighter, more efficient, and more powerful high-output Hurricane 510, and that the 5.7-liter Wagoneer will offer the standard-output Hurricane 410. We didn't know the cost or trim availability of this option—until now—for the Grand Wagoneer, at least

You can now configure a 2022 Grand Wagoneer with the optional 510 hp, 500 lb-ft of torque high-output 3.0-liter I-6
Hurricane engine instead of the standard 471 hp, 455 lb-ft of torque 6.4-liter V-8 Hemi. Selecting the Hurricane 510 comes at a $2,000 premium over the 6.4-liter. It's mated to the same 8-speed automatic 8HP75 automatic transmission as the 6.4-liter. All trim levels of the Grand Wagoneer—the Series I, Series II, Obsidian, and Series III—can now be optioned with the Hurricane. However, the 2022 Wagoneer retains the 5.7-liter V-8 Hemi and currently shows no Hurricane option

It seems that model-year 2022 might be the only year to receive the beefy 6.4-liter V-8 in the Grand Wagoneer, meaning the Grand was launched with the large Hemi, just to (seemingly) drop it almost immediately. (It makes you wonder how long the Jeep Wrangler 392 will last.) A 6.4-liter Grand will probably turn out to be relatively rare. During MotorTrend testing, a 6.4-liter 2022 Jeep Grand Wagoneer Series III ran a ¼-mile in 14.1 seconds, a whole 1.7 seconds faster than a 5.7-liter 2022 Jeep Wagoneer—and 1.2 seconds slower than the Wrangler 392.

Now we wait for the 2022 Wagoneer to get Hurricane'd, which is probably right around the corner.
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Why is this an option that costs $2k? No one is going to pay $2k extra for a 6 cylinder engine because 8 > 6 and Americans are idiots. Wait a model year until the 6.4 gets taken out back and get this for free. No one buying this thing gives a single shit about 0-60 or 1/4 mile times.
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Jeep has presented three models as part of its new product offensive. They are the first three out of four electric SUVs that the marque will introduce in Europe and North America by the end of 2025. This story will focus on the new all-electric Jeep Wagoneer, which the brand calls the Wagoneer S.
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The 2024 Jeep Wagoneer S will first arrive in North America, followed by other regions around the world. The company describes it with the tagline “The Art of American Premium,” and the vehicle is styled accordingly.

Jeep asked its designers and engineers to create a sleek vehicle with an aerodynamic design that has 4×4 capability as standard, including terrain management, while also being an all-electric model.

The all-electric SUV is set to be offered exclusively as a BEV, which is short for Battery Electric Vehicle, and it will target a range of 400 miles (ca. 643 km) on a single charge.

Its motors will provide 600 horsepower, while the 0-60 (97 kph) time will be around 3.5 seconds. Some of those values are impressive, but not all are the best in their class, though.

While Stellantis, the conglomerate that owns the Jeep brand, has already published several images of the 2024 Wagoneer S, the new model will be fully revealed next year, and production is set to start in 2024 in North America.

Customers in the U.S. will be the first allowed to place a reservation for the all-electric Wagoneer, and that process will start in early 2023. One can hope that we will also get more information about the new model once people start placing reservations for it. European customers will also be offered the same possibility, but at a later date that has yet to be specified.

Do not expect to learn too much about it, though, as other brands that allow customers to reserve a new model without revealing specs request their customers to sign various non-disclosure agreements. So, even if customers will get to find out more about the new model, they will not be able to share that information with the world without any consequences. As usual, we will report any leaked detail that we can get our hands on, so be sure to check that notifications button.
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Some small but notable equipment and trim updates are coming for the 2023 Jeep Grand Wagoneer. The big flagship SUV is unchanged visually and mechanically, but you'll find slightly different groupings for standard and optional equipment. There's also a new range-topping trim, but if you stay midpack, the 2023 Grand Wagoneer is nearly $3,000 cheaper.

The big news for 2023 is Jeep's twin-turbocharged 3.0-liter inline-6 engine. It debuted for the 2022 model year, bringing a 510-horsepower punch to the big SUV while using a bit less gas compared to the standard-issue 6.4-liter V8. The I6 was a $2,000 option across the entire Grand Wagoneer range for 2022, but now it's standard in everything but the base trim. For those who still prefer the 471-hp V8, it's the only mill offered in the entry-level Grand Wagoneer but it's a no-cost option in higher-spec Obsidian trim levels.

Yes, we said trim levels, because there's a second Grand Wagoneer Obsidian spec for 2023. In addition to Series II, Series II Obsidian, and Series III, there's now a Series III Obsidian that slots at the very top. It's an appearance package that adds black accents to the exterior and interior, along with 22-inch polished wheels. At the lower end of the spectrum, eight-passenger seating with a second-row bench seat is standard for base and Series II trims, but the seven-passenger layout with second-row captain's chairs is an option.

With an engine that was formerly a $2,000 upgrade now standard, one would expect 2023 Grand Wagoneer pricing to rise accordingly but you'd be wrong. The base model remains the same at $90,640, but the Series II drops to $97,735. It's a decrease of $2,905 from the previous year, and the Series II Obsidian sees the same decrease with an MSRP of $103,230. Series III pricing is steady at $109,995, and the new Series III Obsidian is the most expensive Grand Wagoneer at $111,635. All prices include Jeep's not-insignificant $2,000 destination charge.

The 2023 Jeep Grand Wagoneer will reach dealerships in the second half of 2022.
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Why is this an option that costs $2k? No one is going to pay $2k extra for a 6 cylinder engine because 8 > 6 and Americans are idiots. Wait a model year until the 6.4 gets taken out back and get this for free. No one buying this thing gives a single shit about 0-60 or 1/4 mile times.
Called it.


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