Infiniti: G-Series news **Next Generation Spied (page 75)**
12-22-2005, 02:23 PM
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Welcome to the BMW method of car development. 
Well, BMW is a lot more "forgiving" than that. Cos they give more than 4 years of life to a car's generation. The Japanese give 4 and every year there is a good reason to wait for next year.
12-22-2005, 02:28 PM
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I dont know about an IS300. True there is a big gap between the 204HP and the 306HP but is there a need for yet another engine in there? Will it justify the cost? Remember that BMW has the 3.0L as the largest engine available since the introduction of the new gen. 3er, so the strategies between Lexus and BMW do not match exactly. Maybe Lexus sees the IS350 as the direct competitor to the 330i. Then there would not be a need for an IS300.
We'll see...
We'll see...
With 330HP in the G37? a G30? with about 240-250HP makes sense. The problem is - what current drivetrain can Nissan whore out into a G30?
12-22-2005, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
LOL
Well, BMW is a lot more "forgiving" than that. Cos they give more than 4 years of life to a car's generation. The Japanese give 4 and every year there is a good reason to wait for next year.
Well, BMW is a lot more "forgiving" than that. Cos they give more than 4 years of life to a car's generation. The Japanese give 4 and every year there is a good reason to wait for next year.
12-22-2005, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
I am also guessing that there will be a V8 G-xx with this new generation. The rumors for a V8 Nissan Zxxx are too strong to ignore. I would not be surpirsed if the rumored V8 to be used in the next GT-R (US Spec) would also be used in the G coupe. The rumors call for 400HP which makes a V8 Gxx go head to head with the next generation M3 from a power standpoint at least.
The next thought then is: will there be a V8 Lexus IS? I say yes to that also.
The next thought then is: will there be a V8 Lexus IS? I say yes to that also.
I say yes also.
12-22-2005, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by biker
It wouldn't be a third engine - it would replace the current IS250. It will be the handme down engine from the GS300 when that becomes to GS350 next year.
With 330HP in the G37? a G30? with about 240-250HP makes sense. The problem is - what current drivetrain can Nissan whore out into a G30?
With 330HP in the G37? a G30? with about 240-250HP makes sense. The problem is - what current drivetrain can Nissan whore out into a G30?
2. I dont think there will be a current drivetrain. Probably a new one.
12-22-2005, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
LOL
Well, BMW is a lot more "forgiving" than that. Cos they give more than 4 years of life to a car's generation. The Japanese give 4 and every year there is a good reason to wait for next year.
Well, BMW is a lot more "forgiving" than that. Cos they give more than 4 years of life to a car's generation. The Japanese give 4 and every year there is a good reason to wait for next year.
12-22-2005, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
I am guessing the sedan will make less than 325HP. Maybe closer to 310. Think of the 306HP from Lexus as the benchmark to beat, being in Infiniti's shoes. The 330-340HP rumored for the coupe are probably there due to the fact that the Coupe IS350 will probably make more than 306HP. That's my guess at least.
Yep. Hope the rumors are true, and the edit was warranted.
12-22-2005, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
I am also guessing that there will be a V8 G-xx with this new generation. The rumors for a V8 Nissan Zxxx are too strong to ignore. I would not be surpirsed if the rumored V8 to be used in the next GT-R (US Spec) would also be used in the G coupe. The rumors call for 400HP which makes a V8 Gxx go head to head with the next generation M3 from a power standpoint at least.
The next thought then is: will there be a V8 Lexus IS? I say yes to that also.
The next thought then is: will there be a V8 Lexus IS? I say yes to that also.
12-22-2005, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
I would not be surprised if we saw a smaller V6 making around 225HP or so. Following the Lexus IS strategy exactly (which of course is copycatted by BMW and MB).
12-22-2005, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
And now that I was close to a G35-6MT purchase, we have this news. Now I gotta wait for a year. Then when a year will pass, I'll be saying, "wait another year for the bugs to be worked out". Then, you say "next year they will have a refresh with possibly more power, you have got to wait for that". Then "this is the last year and now we know what the next gen. will look like".
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12-23-2005, 01:50 AM
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12-23-2005, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
1. Why would the IS250 go away? Are there any plans for the 325i to go away? Unless BMW and Lexus can keep the current pricing of the 325 and IS250 very similar and equip those cars with 3.0L engines, then it makes sense, but I doubt that would be happening soon.
2. I dont think there will be a current drivetrain. Probably a new one.
2. I dont think there will be a current drivetrain. Probably a new one.
BMW can very easily rebadge the current 325 to 328 and bump the HP a bit and claim it a new model without doing much.
2. Nissan is the king of drivetrain whoring - they either have something in the parts bin to use or something new is around the corner that will eventually make its way into a lot of vehicles. I would have assumed that if it was the latter was true we would have heard something by now - hence my guess they are going to try something with the former.
12-23-2005, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by titan
I'll be looking out for it. The question is, will they use the 2.5L VQ from the JDM version of the Skyline; or will it share the rumored 2.5L I4 base engine in the upcoming CX? Personally, I'd like to see the 2.5L VQ making around 230HP found in both vehicles.
12-23-2005, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by biker
1. Cause the sales will flatten, like the GS300, and it will be a great way to boost sales. Isn't it peculiar that both the GS300 and IS250 seem to come out of the gate a bit underpowered? I think Lexus did this intentionally so that they can claim a virtually new model when they throw in the new drivetrains. So in BMW fashion just 2 years into the model run (even less for the GS) they can claim a new model and spur sales.
BMW can very easily rebadge the current 325 to 328 and bump the HP a bit and claim it a new model without doing much.
BMW can very easily rebadge the current 325 to 328 and bump the HP a bit and claim it a new model without doing much.
Of course, with regard to the 325, looking at the acceleration times, this thing is nowhere near underpowered with this new generation. I dont know if the engine is SEVERLY underrated or some other reason, but even Motorweek (notoriously slow with their acceleration times) had the AUTO 325 do 7.2 secs for the 60 and the manual did it in 6.7 seconds. That's AUTO CLS times for the latter. Very impressive when one looks at the power/weight ratio of that thing.
12-23-2005, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Infamous425
but the 325 also has a 3.0 so u never know, lexus could drop the 250 for a 300
I dont doubt it. As long as the price is not moved by much.
12-23-2005, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
Of course, with regard to the 325, looking at the acceleration times, this thing is nowhere near underpowered with this new generation. I dont know if the engine is SEVERLY underrated or some other reason, but even Motorweek (notoriously slow with their acceleration times) had the AUTO 325 do 7.2 secs for the 60 and the manual did it in 6.7 seconds. That's AUTO CLS times for the latter. Very impressive when one looks at the power/weight ratio of that thing.
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Originally Posted by biker
Welcome to the BMW method of car development.
12-23-2005, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
And now that I was close to a G35-6MT purchase, we have this news. Now I gotta wait for a year. Then when a year will pass, I'll be saying, "wait another year for the bugs to be worked out". Then, you say "next year they will have a refresh with possibly more power, you have got to wait for that". Then "this is the last year and now we know what the next gen. will look like".
I'm thinking the same thing... Probably will be looking for another coupe soon, but with a new G, 3 series coupe, and maybe an IS coupe out in the near future, I'm going to have to hold off for a couple of years...
12-23-2005, 08:36 PM
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Shoulda bought it when it first came out, its initial hotness made up for not having the interior refresh/ slight power update/ bugs worked out a few years later. Now history will repeat itself, another powerful coupe with ok interior will be introduced at the 06 auto shows, refreshed in 09 with a better interior and more power, what to do?
12-24-2005, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
I'm thinking the same thing... Probably will be looking for another coupe soon, but with a new G, 3 series coupe, and maybe an IS coupe out in the near future, I'm going to have to hold off for a couple of years...
I am also awaiting the arrival of the coupes. Even the one from Audi.
12-25-2005, 11:46 AM
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Infiniti knows it's going to have some catching up to do. i remember when the 1st Gen G35 came out, and how it was the closest competator to the 3 Series. I believe it was faster at the time off the line. If they use M Series materials with the sportiness already bred into it, this thing will be a winner.
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12-25-2005, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
Of course, with regard to the 325, looking at the acceleration times, this thing is nowhere near underpowered with this new generation. I dont know if the engine is SEVERLY underrated or some other reason, but even Motorweek (notoriously slow with their acceleration times) had the AUTO 325 do 7.2 secs for the 60 and the manual did it in 6.7 seconds. That's AUTO CLS times for the latter. Very impressive when one looks at the power/weight ratio of that thing.
12-26-2005, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by biker
A perfect example why NOT to look at paper figures alone. Has anyone tested the 6MT IS250?
12-28-2005, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
i didn't see any CGI pics of the next gen G35 sedan yet
01-05-2006, 08:47 AM
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Yep... that's it right thur. The image is also on Freshalloy. If the car winds up looking like that, it's as good as bought. It keeps what's hot about the car (size, proportion, general design), and improves on it's looks; evolving the G look while bringing closer to the M (without making a clone of it). And here, the mag mentions the 3.7L VQ. I hope the interior looks as good. The hardtop coupe is much needed. The GTR will be fixed top only; the new 3 coupe is a hardtop; and the Z will continue with a rag top (so the models will remain very different). Go for it, Infiniti.
01-07-2006, 12:43 PM
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Am I the only person not to believe any of these Japanese car mags? It's like the National Inquirer set up shop in the automotive industry.
01-07-2006, 01:02 PM
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Am I the only person not to believe any of these Japanese car mags?
01-07-2006, 01:55 PM
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I don't buy them either - they rarely get it right. That said Autospies is normally pretty close, and they posted that picture of the sedan last week....
I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
01-07-2006, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by gocubsgo55
Am I the only person not to believe any of these Japanese car mags? It's like the National Inquirer set up shop in the automotive industry.
