Infiniti: G-Series news **Next Generation Spied (page 75)**
#161
Originally Posted by heyitsme
I dunno, I'd rather them continue on their path instead of going for a sales leader which would have been a new fwd I35 instead of the introduction of a rwd G35. I don't think any rwd 30k sedan outsells the fwd competition. The 05 gets an interior update, the 07 will probably follow the m-series with some plush luxury inside.
What I'm getting at is...one measure of a car's success is it's sales numbers...you never measure success by it's hp. I think Infiniti should focus on what's wrong with the car to help sales not beef up the already impressive hp to the point of overkill. The number 1 selling luxury car is the BMW 3-series (a RWD car by the way) and guess what...it's hp numbers are on the bottom of the list. Like I always say...there's more to a car than performance...I think it's something Infiniti will have to learn if they are going to make it in this market. My
#162
Originally Posted by AcuraFan
What I'm getting at is...one measure of a car's success is it's sales numbers...you never measure success by it's hp. I think Infiniti should focus on what's wrong with the car to help sales not beef up the already impressive hp to the point of overkill. The number 1 selling luxury car is the BMW 3-series (a RWD car by the way) and guess what...it's hp numbers are on the bottom of the list. Like I always say...there's more to a car than performance...I think it's something Infiniti will have to learn if they are going to make it in this market. My
BTW, the G outsold the previous version of the TL at around 70-80 thousand units per year. Now that its 3 years old, the TL has released the new model and the G sales go down...not that surprising. New models always do well the first year.
#163
Originally Posted by AcuraFan
What I'm getting at is...one measure of a car's success is it's sales numbers...you never measure success by it's hp. I think Infiniti should focus on what's wrong with the car to help sales not beef up the already impressive hp to the point of overkill. The number 1 selling luxury car is the BMW 3-series (a RWD car by the way) and guess what...it's hp numbers are on the bottom of the list. Like I always say...there's more to a car than performance...I think it's something Infiniti will have to learn if they are going to make it in this market. My
I dont think this HP is "overkill". It's just fine where it is.
#164
Originally Posted by EZZ
Sure you say that now, but study Nissan history and you'd be dead wrong. They once took your advice and did everything they could to emulate Toyota and Honda. Improve interior, plush rides, more conservative designs...etc. Didn't work and they almost plunged into bankruptcy. Enter Carlos Ghosn...."we will have the highest standard horsepower in every class..." guess what, he did a $9 BILLION turnaround in a span of 3 years. He catered to the enthusiast and gave them horsepower till it hurt. He keeps Nissan owners happy by increasing the horespower year after year after year. It works. The G35 is a sales PHENOMENON for Nissan. Infinitii has NEVER had such a successful product. The G has single handedly turned Infiniti into a profitable division.
BTW, the G outsold the previous version of the TL at around 70-80 thousand units per year. Now that its 3 years old, the TL has released the new model and the G sales go down...not that surprising. New models always do well the first year.
BTW, the G outsold the previous version of the TL at around 70-80 thousand units per year. Now that its 3 years old, the TL has released the new model and the G sales go down...not that surprising. New models always do well the first year.
#165
Originally Posted by gavriil
yes but the G35 is heavier right? SO even if they are par as far as acceleration, that's still acceptable. After all, why does the Z have to be faster than the luxury G? It's like saying that the Accord coupe should be faster than a hypothetical CL.
GC Leather 6MT - 298hp - 3435lbs - 0.0867hp/lb - 11.52lbs/hp
GS Leather 6MT - 298hp - 3398lbs - 0.0876hp/lb - 11.40lbs/hp
Z Track 6MT - 287hp - 3225lbs - 0.0889hp/lb - 11.23lbs/hp
Z Touring 6MT - 287hp - 3247lbs - 0.0883hp/lb - 11.31lbs/hp
Z Base 6MT - 287hp - 3188lbs - 0.0900hp/lb - 11.10lbs/hp
#166
Originally Posted by cusdaddy
The Z should still be faster, but only slightly now. Someone on the 350z message board put up these calculations:
GC Leather 6MT - 298hp - 3435lbs - 0.0867hp/lb - 11.52lbs/hp
GS Leather 6MT - 298hp - 3398lbs - 0.0876hp/lb - 11.40lbs/hp
Z Track 6MT - 287hp - 3225lbs - 0.0889hp/lb - 11.23lbs/hp
Z Touring 6MT - 287hp - 3247lbs - 0.0883hp/lb - 11.31lbs/hp
Z Base 6MT - 287hp - 3188lbs - 0.0900hp/lb - 11.10lbs/hp
GC Leather 6MT - 298hp - 3435lbs - 0.0867hp/lb - 11.52lbs/hp
GS Leather 6MT - 298hp - 3398lbs - 0.0876hp/lb - 11.40lbs/hp
Z Track 6MT - 287hp - 3225lbs - 0.0889hp/lb - 11.23lbs/hp
Z Touring 6MT - 287hp - 3247lbs - 0.0883hp/lb - 11.31lbs/hp
Z Base 6MT - 287hp - 3188lbs - 0.0900hp/lb - 11.10lbs/hp
Nice calcs. Though I am surprised by the fact that the sedan has a lower lbs/hp ratio. The coupe should be faster, no?
#167
Originally Posted by gavriil
Nice calcs. Though I am surprised by the fact that the sedan has a lower lbs/hp ratio. The coupe should be faster, no?
#168
*what i wrote below is what i read on 350zforum and g35forums.*
1. why 298HP instead of 300HP? 300HP is like a line between super sports cars and regular cars. A car with 300 HP will mostly cost more to insure than a car with 298 HP. so 298 is to cut down insurance cost.
2. Why 05 G has more HP than 05 Z?
298 and 287 is like 10 HP difference... AT THE CRANK.. that s like 2 WHP... who would acutally feel 2 WHP difference...
Skyline has always been the icon of Nissan and Nissan just made their icon G35/skyline have more HP than their FAMOUS Z
also rumor says 05.5 Nissan will introduce a 35th Anniversary Edition for the 350Z and that is when the 05Z will have a HP bump.
1. why 298HP instead of 300HP? 300HP is like a line between super sports cars and regular cars. A car with 300 HP will mostly cost more to insure than a car with 298 HP. so 298 is to cut down insurance cost.
2. Why 05 G has more HP than 05 Z?
298 and 287 is like 10 HP difference... AT THE CRANK.. that s like 2 WHP... who would acutally feel 2 WHP difference...
Skyline has always been the icon of Nissan and Nissan just made their icon G35/skyline have more HP than their FAMOUS Z
also rumor says 05.5 Nissan will introduce a 35th Anniversary Edition for the 350Z and that is when the 05Z will have a HP bump.
#176
Very impressive looking and impressive engine specs...
I just have some concerns with the smoothness of the VQ at that displacement. My parents have a creamy-smooth 3.0L VQ in their Maxima. The 3.5L in my Z is strong, but pretty rough higher up in the rev-range. Even in the G35.
I'm sure they can do it, but many V6 engines at that displacement are somewhat rough
I just have some concerns with the smoothness of the VQ at that displacement. My parents have a creamy-smooth 3.0L VQ in their Maxima. The 3.5L in my Z is strong, but pretty rough higher up in the rev-range. Even in the G35.
I'm sure they can do it, but many V6 engines at that displacement are somewhat rough
#178
Originally Posted by cusdaddy
Very impressive looking and impressive engine specs...
I just have some concerns with the smoothness of the VQ at that displacement. My parents have a creamy-smooth 3.0L VQ in their Maxima. The 3.5L in my Z is strong, but pretty rough higher up in the rev-range. Even in the G35.
I'm sure they can do it, but many V6 engines at that displacement are somewhat rough
I just have some concerns with the smoothness of the VQ at that displacement. My parents have a creamy-smooth 3.0L VQ in their Maxima. The 3.5L in my Z is strong, but pretty rough higher up in the rev-range. Even in the G35.
I'm sure they can do it, but many V6 engines at that displacement are somewhat rough
#180
Originally Posted by gavriil
I am guessing that the main reason your engine does not feel as smooth is mostly due to all the measures an engine designer takes to smoothen the engine externally. Meaning, special hydraulic mounts, frame and sub-frame issues, etc.
The 3.0L Maxima would rev to 7000rpm and felt like it kept pulling when approaching the redline (similar to the J32) while the 3.5L VQ power significantly levels off past 6000rpm.
I do love the torque and power of the new VQ though. It's still an outstanding engine, I just think that a v6 of a displacement over 4L will be thrashy.
#185
This is clearly a sketch that took design clues from the new Infiniti M car. I do see some G6 in the rear but overall this is a really nice design especially from the front. I cant even imagine how sporty the two door will look like, based upon this CGI.
#190
Originally Posted by acura1983
call me stupid but in japan skylines are G35s down there?
Nissan & Infiniti are same like Toyota is to Lexus?
Nissan & Infiniti are same like Toyota is to Lexus?
#194
Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Looks good to me and like a Nissan. With the I35 gone, look for the next G35 to have more luxury.
#200
Originally Posted by nandowong
old skyline = million times better