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dom 09-04-2008 10:31 AM

The front looks ok. But I can see the back end being a mess.

Mokos23 09-04-2008 10:50 AM

not bad looking, but yeah need to see the rearend too.

LuvMyTSX 09-04-2008 10:53 AM

IMO it looks a helluva lot better than the new Prius. Damn that thing is ugly.

phile 09-04-2008 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S (Post 9959432)
Looks like the offspring of a Prius and a FCX.

And a little bit of Civic in the front.

Moog-Type-S 09-04-2008 12:06 PM

Can't wait for the day when someone builds at good looking hybrid.

:ibteslaelectric:

y2kardell 09-04-2008 12:09 PM

Prius's Are Gay..............lol

Yumcha 09-04-2008 11:22 PM

One more pic...

http://img.worldcarfans.com/US/2008/...013.Mini2L.jpg

Sarlacc 09-05-2008 01:48 AM


Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S (Post 9959871)
Can't wait for the day when someone builds at good looking hybrid.

:ibteslaelectric:

LS600h...GS450h....RX400h :dunno:


back to your other post...I actually ran across a FCX in traffic a month or so agi.

TSX69 10-02-2008 06:47 AM

Paris Debut from LeftLaneNews
 
http://photos.leftlanenews.com/photo...t-1.jpg&w=1024

Future Cars
Honda shows Insight Concept [Updated with live photos]

Earlier today at the Paris Motor Show, Honda officially unveiled the concept version of its upcoming 2010 Insight hybrid. Though labeled a concept, the show car very strongly previews Honda’s upcoming bargain-priced Prius fighter which will be unveiled officially later this fall.

“The original Honda Insight pioneered hybrid technology in the U.S. and remains a symbol of Honda’s commitment to innovative technology and fuel efficiency,”
said Takeo Fukui, Honda CEO.

Priced below the Honda Civic, this Japanese-built hybrid will carry over much of the hatchback styling from the FCX. Inside, the Insight appears similar to the Prius with a flat floor and large space, as well as a futuristic dashboard.

In addition to recycling the Insight name, Honda will equip the new hybrid with the same 1.3-liter Integrated Motor Assist system found in the current-generation Honda Civic Hybrid. However, further development of the system will cut the IMA’s cost by about 50 percent in the new hybrid.

Although the new Insight will be loosely based on the Fit, it will measure in at 3 inches longer and 1 inch wider than the Fit, which Honda said will also be available with a hybrid powertrain in the near future.

One Honda insider told Edmunds the Insight’s fuel economy would be “insane,” with some Japanese sources predicting mileage as high as 71 mpg. Actual mileage will likely be lower when it hits our shores, but should still be impressive.

And if those lofty fuel-economy numbers weren’t enough to cause an instant waiting list for the new hybrid, the next-generation Insight will list from under $18,500 – undercutting the Prius by thousands of dollars.

The new Insight is expected to debut at November’s Los Angeles Auto Show and will likely be in North American dealerships by late spring 2010.

Honda hopes to build 200,000 units annually, with half of that production to be sold in the United States.

dom 10-02-2008 08:32 AM

Right out of Takeo Fukui's mouth....


We are developing this vehicle to achieve excellent fuel efficiency on par with Civic Hybrid... but at a significantly reduced price.
So much for "insane".

CGTSX2004 10-02-2008 08:40 AM

Wow...they are really pushing the timeline on getting this to market. I may have to fly home for the LA Auto Show just so I can see it in person.

invisiblewar 10-02-2008 08:41 AM

will those headlights be in the production version?

dom 10-02-2008 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by invisiblewar (Post 10049546)
will those headlights be in the production version?

For 18,500? Doubt it.

yohan81718 10-02-2008 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by Sarlacc (Post 9962824)
LS600h...GS450h....RX400h :dunno:


back to your other post...I actually ran across a FCX in traffic a month or so agi.

meh.. RX400h is ugly. But the other two..

GS450h is supposedly go 0-60 in 5.1 second.. or that's what I read when I went to taste of lexus last year.

Yumcha 10-02-2008 08:14 PM

http://img.worldcarfans.com/US/2008/...014.Mini7L.jpg
http://img.worldcarfans.com/US/2008/...014.Mini8L.jpg
http://img.worldcarfans.com/US/2008/...014.Mini9L.jpg
http://img.worldcarfans.com/US/2008/...14.Mini10L.jpg
http://img.worldcarfans.com/US/2008/...14.Mini11L.jpg
http://img.worldcarfans.com/US/2008/...14.Mini12L.jpg
http://img.worldcarfans.com/US/2008/...14.Mini13L.jpg
http://img.worldcarfans.com/US/2008/...14.Mini14L.jpg

Yumcha 10-02-2008 08:15 PM

http://img.worldcarfans.com/US/2008/...14.Mini15L.jpg
http://img.worldcarfans.com/US/2008/...14.Mini16L.jpg
http://img.worldcarfans.com/US/2008/...14.Mini17L.jpg
http://img.worldcarfans.com/US/2008/...14.Mini18L.jpg
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http://img.worldcarfans.com/US/2008/...14.Mini20L.jpg
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Yumcha 10-02-2008 08:15 PM

From Honda via WCF...


With obvious design cues taken from the FCX Clarity fuel cell vehicle, the Honda Insight concept takes a bow today in Paris. The small 5-seat 5-door hatchback hybrid vehicle makes a direct challenge to Toyota's guilt-ridding Prius, and plans to make its market launch in the U.S in spring 2009.

Still, Honda gives no specifications regarding fuel efficiency and emissions, but we do know it uses the same 4th generation IMA (Integrated Motor Assist) 1.3-liter compact engine used in the Civic Hybrid.
Also, the hybrid control unit and battery are located under the cargo space.

Honda expects to sell 200,000 Insight units per year globally (approximately 100,000 in North America), ultimately providing Honda's with 500,000 global sales of hybrid units a year.


Sarlacc 10-02-2008 08:16 PM

Honda Prius :shrug:

looks good.

sho_nuff1997 10-02-2008 08:50 PM

I like it. I am curious about the LED headlights. I looks like they don't give off enough light.

phile 10-02-2008 09:02 PM

^ they're just for show. if you want LED headlights that really illuminate the road, you need much bigger ones, like on the Lexus LS hybrid. It wouldn't be these tiny little ones.

http://www.motorauthority.com/wp-con.../lexus_LED.jpg

biker 10-03-2008 02:05 AM

Q45 headlights - that's what you need.

Good looking car and I'm sure it will sell well.

fsttyms1 10-03-2008 08:19 AM

Me like!

JS + XES 10-03-2008 02:49 PM

Oh wow, looks good.

Moog-Type-S 10-03-2008 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by Sarlacc (Post 9962824)
LS600h...GS450h....RX400h :dunno:


back to your other post...I actually ran across a FCX in traffic a month or so agi.

Perhaps I should have said a Hybrid designed for fuel efficiency rather than performance.


oh and LS600H :pimp:
The other two are meh.

mltk53 10-03-2008 06:02 PM

:yawn:

ThermonMermon 10-06-2008 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by Yumchah (Post 9962512)


WOW, the top one looks HOT.

is that the CRX followed by the civic and insight?

Ikko 10-06-2008 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by ThermonMermon (Post 10060898)
WOW, the top one looks HOT.

is that the CRX followed by the civic and insight?

That would be the FCX Clarity!

LuvMyTSX 10-06-2008 10:22 AM

Concept looks awesome. Hopefully the production version is still cool looking.

invisiblewar 10-06-2008 12:01 PM

itll be waaaay dumbed down from that. imagine having all those leds in it. they would be charging at least 30k for that

Infamous425 10-06-2008 12:34 PM

i hope they improved the IMA. a lot of complaints that it isnt as seamless as the prius.

sdho 10-08-2008 01:47 PM

"it will measure in at 3 inches longer and 1 inch wider than the Fit".

I hope it's not too small.

LuvMyTSX 10-08-2008 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by sdho (Post 10069012)
"it will measure in at 3 inches longer and 1 inch wider than the Fit".

I hope it's not too small.

IMO, it is a little too small. I think it would be more viable as a mid-size car such as the Prius, allowing it to be a good choice for families or anyone who wants a decently sized vehicle that is also fuel efficient. I would like to see it appeal to a broader range of buyers.

Speed_Racer 10-09-2008 11:25 AM

Honda's got another sales hit on their hands. They'll sell everyone they build. . .

TSX69 11-19-2008 06:47 PM

New Info & Interior Pix (click link)
 
Honda to Introduce Ecological Drive Assist System in Spring 2009
Date: November 19, 2008 15:05
Submitted by: RyanDL
Source: Honda Press Release
Credibility Rating: Not Specified


11/19/2008 - LOS ANGELES - American Honda Motor Co., Inc., today announced that a new interactive, driver-focused fuel economy enhancement technology named the Ecological Drive Assist System (Eco Assist™) will debut on the new Honda Insight in spring 2009.

The Honda Insight Concept, making its North American debut at the Los Angeles Auto Show, provides a strong indication of the design and styling of the all-new gasoline-electric hybrid model from Honda.

Eco Assist combines multiple functions: the driver-activated ECON mode that optimizes control of the continuously variable transmission, engine and related powertrain components to conserve fuel; and a feedback function that uses speedometer background color to provide real-time guidance on environmentally responsible driving. An economy scoring function further provides feedback about current driving techniques, as well as feedback on cumulative, long-term driving style.

"Hybrid drivers enjoy trying to get the most fuel economy from their vehicles,"
said Dan Bonawitz, vice president of American Honda Motor Co., Inc. "The visual nature of Eco Assist is intended to help drivers improve their efficient driving skills by making the hybrid experience more fun and rewarding."

Honda developed the powertrain control, driver guidance and driver feedback functions of Eco Assist to help enhance real-world fuel economy. In particular, the scoring function provides cumulative, long-term feedback through graphic 'leaves,' which grow over time as drivers learn and implement driving practices that increase fuel economy.

Activated by a green "ECON" button on the instrument panel, ECON mode optimizes control of the transmission, engine and other powertrain elements to conserve fuel. ECON mode also adjusts air conditioner operation, increases the potential for engaging the idle stop feature sooner and increase battery charging during regenerative braking.

The guidance function uses the speedometer background's color-changing, three-dimensional appearance to indicate fuel efficiency in real time. Fuel-saving activities like smooth acceleration and braking make the meter glow green. Somewhat less efficient driving makes the meter glow blue-green. Aggressive starts and stops that consume extra fuel make the meter glow blue. By observing the speedometer background's response to driving practices and seeking to achieve a consistently green color, drivers can receive assistance in developing driving habits that typically enhance fuel economy.

The scoring function provides feedback about current driving practices, as well as cumulative, long-term feedback tracking progress. Located in the center of the instrument panel of the all-new Insight, the Multi-Information Display offers drivers a selection of informational displays, including the scoring function, in which the number of 'leaves' displayed indicates the level of environmentally responsible driving performance. When the ignition switch is on, the display scores driving practices in real time. When the ignition switch is turned off, the 'leaves' in the top line of the display score driving in the just completed cycle (startup to shutdown), while a horizontal bar in the lower part of the display scores cumulative lifetime performance.

The Multi-Information Display also allows drivers to view fuel economy figures for the past three trips, as well as instantaneous and average fuel economy statistics. The scoring function encourages drivers to take an interest in developing fuel efficient driving habits over the long term.

Going on sale in North America next spring, the all-new, purpose-built Insight will come to market at a price significantly below that of hybrids available today. From this unique position in the marketplace, the Insight will advance the affordability and accessibility of hybrid technology to a new generation of buyers.

With its affordable price, the new hybrid vehicle will represent the best value in its segment. Along with the Civic Hybrid, the new vehicle will be produced at an expanded hybrid vehicle production line at the Suzuka factory in Japan.

The Insight is expected to have annual global sales of 200,000 units per year -approximately 100,000 in North America. Following the launch of the new Insight, Honda also plans to introduce another unique sporty hybrid vehicle based on the CR-Z, a concept car first shown at the 2007 Tokyo Motor Show.

The original Honda Insight was introduced in December 1999 as North America's first gas-electric hybrid car. The original Insight was designed from the ground up to demonstrate the ultimate potential for fuel-economy in a two-seater subcompact automobile.

A leader in the development of cleaner, more fuel-efficient mobility products, Honda was the first to market low-emission gasoline vehicles, a gasoline-electric hybrid car in North America, and the world's first EPA-certified hydrogen fuel-cell vehicle, the FCX. In 2007, Honda was named "greenest automaker" by the Union of Concerned Scientists for the fourth straight time.






Belzebutt 11-19-2008 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by LuvMyTSX (Post 10069124)
IMO, it is a little too small. I think it would be more viable as a mid-size car such as the Prius, allowing it to be a good choice for families or anyone who wants a decently sized vehicle that is also fuel efficient. I would like to see it appeal to a broader range of buyers.

If it's a little bigger than the Fit, then it's big.

A couple of days ago I drove my mother in law's brand new 2009 Fit, and it feels at least as big on the inside as my TSX, with more headroom and more room ahead of the dash. It's amazing what they do with such a small car.

sho_nuff1997 11-19-2008 07:35 PM

I still have a hard time believing this will be $18,500. It just seems like a lot for so cheap. Hopefully the dealer doesn't mark it up too much.

Yumcha 11-19-2008 11:47 PM

Honda Insight to Introduce Ecological Drive Assist System in Spring 2009
 
Press release...


American Honda Motor Co., Inc., today announced that a new interactive, driver-focused fuel economy enhancement technology named the Ecological Drive Assist System (Eco AssistTM) will debut on the new Honda Insight in spring 2009.

The Honda Insight Concept, making its North American debut at the Los Angeles Auto Show, provides a strong indication of the design and styling of the all-new gasoline-electric hybrid model from Honda.

Eco Assist combines multiple functions: the driver-activated ECON mode that optimizes control of the continuously variable transmission, engine and related powertrain components to conserve fuel; and a feedback function that uses speedometer background color to provide real-time guidance on environmentally responsible driving. An economy scoring function further provides feedback about current driving techniques, as well as feedback on cumulative, long-term driving style.

"Hybrid drivers enjoy trying to get the most fuel economy from their vehicles," said Dan Bonawitz, vice president of American Honda Motor Co., Inc. "The visual nature of Eco Assist is intended to help drivers improve their efficient driving skills by making the hybrid experience more fun and rewarding."

Honda developed the powertrain control, driver guidance and driver feedback functions of Eco Assist to help enhance real-world fuel economy. In particular, the scoring function provides cumulative, long-term feedback through graphic 'leaves,' which grow over time as drivers learn and implement driving practices that increase fuel economy.

Activated by a green "ECON" button on the instrument panel, ECON mode optimizes control of the transmission, engine and other powertrain elements to conserve fuel. ECON mode also adjusts air conditioner operation, increases the potential for engaging the idle stop feature sooner and increase battery charging during regenerative braking.

The guidance function uses the speedometer background's color-changing, three-dimensional appearance to indicate fuel efficiency in real time. Fuel-saving activities like smooth acceleration and braking make the meter glow green. Somewhat less efficient driving makes the meter glow blue-green. Aggressive starts and stops that consume extra fuel make the meter glow blue. By observing the speedometer background's response to driving practices and seeking to achieve a consistently green color, drivers can receive assistance in developing driving habits that typically enhance fuel economy.

The scoring function provides feedback about current driving practices, as well as cumulative, long-term feedback tracking progress. Located in the center of the instrument panel of the all-new Insight, the Multi-Information Display offers drivers a selection of informational displays, including the scoring function, in which the number of 'leaves' displayed indicates the level of environmentally responsible driving performance. When the ignition switch is on, the display scores driving practices in real time. When the ignition switch is turned off, the 'leaves' in the top line of the display score driving in the just completed cycle (startup to shutdown), while a horizontal bar in the lower part of the display scores cumulative lifetime performance.

The Multi-Information Display also allows drivers to view fuel economy figures for the past three trips, as well as instantaneous and average fuel economy statistics. The scoring function encourages drivers to take an interest in developing fuel efficient driving habits over the long term.

Going on sale in North America next spring, the all-new, purpose-built Insight will come to market at a price significantly below that of hybrids available today. From this unique position in the marketplace, the Insight will advance the affordability and accessibility of hybrid technology to a new generation of buyers.

With its affordable price, the new hybrid vehicle will represent the best value in its segment. Along with the Civic Hybrid, the new vehicle will be produced at an expanded hybrid vehicle production line at the Suzuka factory in Japan.

The Insight is expected to have annual global sales of 200,000 units per year -approximately 100,000 in North America. Following the launch of the new Insight, Honda also plans to introduce another unique sporty hybrid vehicle based on the CR-Z, a concept car first shown at the 2007 Tokyo Motor Show.

The original Honda Insight was introduced in December 1999 as North America's first gas-electric hybrid car. The original Insight was designed from the ground up to demonstrate the ultimate potential for fuel-economy in a two-seater subcompact automobile.

A leader in the development of cleaner, more fuel-efficient mobility products, Honda was the first to market low-emission gasoline vehicles, a gasoline-electric hybrid car in North America, and the world's first EPA-certified hydrogen fuel-cell vehicle, the FCX. In 2007, Honda was named "greenest automaker" by the Union of Concerned Scientists for the fourth straight time.


Yumcha 11-19-2008 11:48 PM

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http://img.worldcarfans.com/2008/10/...1069super2.jpg

biker 11-20-2008 02:38 AM

That press release sounds like it was written by/for a bunch of tree huggers. Why can't Honda just brag about the fuel economy and leave at that. :rolleyes:

ThermonMermon 11-23-2008 03:30 AM

looks good. minimize the waiting list, and you have a big seller. another reason why the big 3 are behind the 8 ball.


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