Honda: Civic News
06-30-2005, 11:43 AM
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Spy Shots: ‘06 Honda Civics - - By Chris Doane for Brenda Priddy & Company - - Source: The Car Connection
The eighth-generation Honda Civic will be arriving shortly - right on schedule for its five-year cycle, and TCC spies caught them with just a piece or two of tape over the emblem and parts of the lights. Details on the upcoming changes to the Civic have been slow to come, but there is speculation of a new hybrid powertrain that will be more fuel-efficient than today's IMA system.
As for the Civic Si, there's more power on tap and sharp new looks. Looking very much like the concept that we've seen at the Chicago Auto Show, Honda had stayed true to its concept styling with only a few minor production changes (including door handles and a huge exhaust tip). The Si will be powered by a 200-horsepower VTEC engine mated to a six-speed manual transmission and should be in dealerships in the fourth quarter of this year.
As for the Civic Si, there's more power on tap and sharp new looks. Looking very much like the concept that we've seen at the Chicago Auto Show, Honda had stayed true to its concept styling with only a few minor production changes (including door handles and a huge exhaust tip). The Si will be powered by a 200-horsepower VTEC engine mated to a six-speed manual transmission and should be in dealerships in the fourth quarter of this year.
06-30-2005, 12:12 PM
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Two cars, coupe and sedan, front and rear = 4 sides total to review (assuming the side is irrelevant). From that, I only like one of the four to review. The rear of the coupe model. Everything else does not look good at all.
06-30-2005, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SeCsTaC
Civic coupe doesn't look too bad. Hope they don't alter the Accord coupe too much, I think it looks great the way it is now.
06-30-2005, 02:50 PM
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Think the SI will be fine this time around from what they are showing but thats also the top model, wonder if the lower models will fair as well with their looks without the wheels/wing/ and other details.
The sedan is looking quite boring for a new car, maybe that will change when its unveiled in a different color/model/ or something.
The sedan is looking quite boring for a new car, maybe that will change when its unveiled in a different color/model/ or something.
06-30-2005, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by corey415
You beat me to it. I just found those, posted over at vtec.net about them and then proceeded to post here. Props on being speedy.
06-30-2005, 03:34 PM
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Looking good...where are the interior shots?
06-30-2005, 07:09 PM
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Ehh... I agree w/ gav. Only the rear view of the coupe looks good.
And god damn. That's one small lady driving the car, or the car size just blew the hell up.
And god damn. That's one small lady driving the car, or the car size just blew the hell up.
06-30-2005, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by corey415
)and it looks like it has different wheels than any other pics we've seen so far...which is now 4 different models (or wheels at least) on the sedan.
The coupe looks really hot IMO. Looks like a navi and XM too.
The front of the sedan looks really wierd to me, although the back is shaping out to be nice. The front grille looks like it doesn't fit in place (big gaps) and underneath it sticks out really far. And something about the front bumper, It's too boxy too low, kinda hard to explain, but overall i think It's shaping up pretty nicely.
06-30-2005, 09:12 PM
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Both look disgustting. I think the team that worked on the Ridgeline got to the Civic. They look like cheap Saturns.
If the trunk lights taper upward like the Audis,
, they seem taped up.
I don't think these cars are going to help sales any. 200hp Si, who cares anymore? 200hp is nothing nowadays for a sporty car.
THIS is a damn good looking car at any price. Honda has just made it uglier and ungainly since
If the trunk lights taper upward like the Audis,
, they seem taped up.I don't think these cars are going to help sales any. 200hp Si, who cares anymore? 200hp is nothing nowadays for a sporty car.
THIS is a damn good looking car at any price. Honda has just made it uglier and ungainly since
06-30-2005, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by av6ent
The front looks like fuking Saturn 
Honda needs to improve design skills big time.
Honda needs to improve design skills big time.
07-02-2005, 01:35 PM
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07-03-2005, 03:30 PM
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The COUPE is hot! I've seen one in Hollywood the other day, taking an offramp really quick to avoid 101 congestion. I thought it was a new Audi in white when I got a brief glance at its taillights. It's sick man, sick I tell ya.
07-03-2005, 05:20 PM
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I like both the new coupe and sedan. They look sharp and refined, especially when compared to the current "Jennifer" snoozer generation Civic or the mini mini-van anemic Si.
07-04-2005, 10:04 AM
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I like the sedan actually. I'm sure it will look better once official photos are out.
I'm glad they didn't do freaky vertical lights this time aroud, I don't know what they were thinking. Vertical lights are NEVER better than horizontal IMO.
I'm glad they didn't do freaky vertical lights this time aroud, I don't know what they were thinking. Vertical lights are NEVER better than horizontal IMO.
07-04-2005, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SeCsTaC
look damn good to me
=Dregardless, there are better looking cars out there for the money.
07-04-2005, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by slyraskal
that's not even a stock accord coupe. You didn't say you were talking bout a fixed up accord coupe.
regardless, there are better looking cars out there for the money.
regardless, there are better looking cars out there for the money.
- got a body kit
- larger wheels
- lowered
These Civic pics are low-quality spy shots of a masked car in stock configuration.
07-05-2005, 09:39 AM
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New 1.8L engine. 140hp/128tq, drive by wire.
07-05-2005, 05:49 PM
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New 1.8L engine. 140hp/128tq, drive by wire.
http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=376015
So that means we can expect roughly 33mpg city and 40mpg highway, with an INCREASE in engine output?
This is why I love Honda!
07-05-2005, 06:27 PM
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Honda Unveils Civic Imrovements
Better mileage, performance for gasoline and hybrid engines will be available later in '05.
July 5, 2005; Posted: 6:41 a.m. EDT (1041 GMT)
TOKYO (Reuters) - Honda Motor unveiled improvements to its Civic's gasoline and hybrid engine systems that would boost mileage and performance on the car's remodeled versions due later this year.
With global sales of nearly 600,000 units a year, the Civic is Honda's (up $0.09 to $24.70, Research) best-selling model after the Accord, and the refreshed version that was announced Tuesday is widely expected to generate big sales gains for Japan's third-biggest auto maker.
Honda said the improved i-VTEC (intelligent Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control System) technology -- a mechanism that helps engines burn fuel more efficiently while enhancing driving performance -- would raise the engine's fuel economy by 6 percent in the new gasoline-only Civic.
The new 1.8-liter engine is 11 pounds lighter than the 1.7-liter engine that powers the current Civic, thanks largely to the use of fewer components -- something Honda has promised to pursue to lower costs.
Honda also developed a more powerful, fuel-efficient hybrid system that would enable its gasoline-electric vehicles to run solely on the electric motor at low cruising speeds for the first time, like Toyota Motor's (up $0.66 to $72.15, Research) popular Prius sedan.
The new system features an evolved, three-stage 1.34-liter i-VTEC engine, combined with Honda's IMA (integrated motor assist) technology to achieve a 20 percent jump in output -- comparable to the performance of a conventional 1.8-liter engine.
The system is smaller, lighter and costs up to 30 percent less than the existing version, a Honda engineer said.
Green machines
Honda has long been at the forefront of "green" powertrain technology, perhaps most famously with the development in 1973 of the CVCC (Compound Vortex Controlled Combustion) engine -- the world's first to meet Clean Air Act requirements without a catalytic converter, and which gave the popular Civic its name.
Honda is one of a handful of car makers to offer mass-market hybrid cars; its FCX model is the only zero-emission fuel-cell vehicle certified by the Environmental Protection Agency and California regulators for regular daily use.
But Honda's ranking as one of the world's most fuel-efficient car brands is mainly due to its widespread use of environmentally friendly gasoline-engine technology, and that trend will continue despite the development of an improved hybrid system, an executive said.
"The most meaningful way to raise the fleet's overall performance and efficiency is to make new technologies like this available on a wide range of vehicles," Motoatsu Shiraishi, senior managing director and head of Honda's R&D unit, told reporters.
"We intend to use this technology on all vehicles that share the Civic powertrain eventually," he said.
The current Civic engine also powers some Stream and Edix/FR-V minivans.
Despite the popularity of its fuel-sipping Prius hybrid, Toyota ranks third behind Honda and Nissan Motor (up $0.02 to $19.90, Research) in average fleet-wide fuel economy in the United States, according to the Union of Concerned Scientists, a Washington, D.C.-based independent research group.
"In terms of the technology that Honda and Toyota have, I would argue that they're running neck-and-neck," said David Friedman, research director of the group's Clean Vehicles Program. "But Honda has been willing to get more of it out on the road, and that's a really important difference."
With about 27,200 sold last year, hybrids make up just 2 percent of Honda's sales in the United States, where it sells a little more than half of its Civics.
Honda is projecting a rise in its U.S. fleet's average fuel economy to 29.5 miles per gallon in 2005, up from last year's 29.0 mpg and the industry average of 24.6 mpg, even as SUVs and other light trucks make up a bigger portion of its line-up.
Better mileage, performance for gasoline and hybrid engines will be available later in '05.
July 5, 2005; Posted: 6:41 a.m. EDT (1041 GMT)
TOKYO (Reuters) - Honda Motor unveiled improvements to its Civic's gasoline and hybrid engine systems that would boost mileage and performance on the car's remodeled versions due later this year.
With global sales of nearly 600,000 units a year, the Civic is Honda's (up $0.09 to $24.70, Research) best-selling model after the Accord, and the refreshed version that was announced Tuesday is widely expected to generate big sales gains for Japan's third-biggest auto maker.
Honda said the improved i-VTEC (intelligent Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control System) technology -- a mechanism that helps engines burn fuel more efficiently while enhancing driving performance -- would raise the engine's fuel economy by 6 percent in the new gasoline-only Civic.
The new 1.8-liter engine is 11 pounds lighter than the 1.7-liter engine that powers the current Civic, thanks largely to the use of fewer components -- something Honda has promised to pursue to lower costs.
Honda also developed a more powerful, fuel-efficient hybrid system that would enable its gasoline-electric vehicles to run solely on the electric motor at low cruising speeds for the first time, like Toyota Motor's (up $0.66 to $72.15, Research) popular Prius sedan.
The new system features an evolved, three-stage 1.34-liter i-VTEC engine, combined with Honda's IMA (integrated motor assist) technology to achieve a 20 percent jump in output -- comparable to the performance of a conventional 1.8-liter engine.
The system is smaller, lighter and costs up to 30 percent less than the existing version, a Honda engineer said.
Green machines
Honda has long been at the forefront of "green" powertrain technology, perhaps most famously with the development in 1973 of the CVCC (Compound Vortex Controlled Combustion) engine -- the world's first to meet Clean Air Act requirements without a catalytic converter, and which gave the popular Civic its name.
Honda is one of a handful of car makers to offer mass-market hybrid cars; its FCX model is the only zero-emission fuel-cell vehicle certified by the Environmental Protection Agency and California regulators for regular daily use.
But Honda's ranking as one of the world's most fuel-efficient car brands is mainly due to its widespread use of environmentally friendly gasoline-engine technology, and that trend will continue despite the development of an improved hybrid system, an executive said.
"The most meaningful way to raise the fleet's overall performance and efficiency is to make new technologies like this available on a wide range of vehicles," Motoatsu Shiraishi, senior managing director and head of Honda's R&D unit, told reporters.
"We intend to use this technology on all vehicles that share the Civic powertrain eventually," he said.
The current Civic engine also powers some Stream and Edix/FR-V minivans.
Despite the popularity of its fuel-sipping Prius hybrid, Toyota ranks third behind Honda and Nissan Motor (up $0.02 to $19.90, Research) in average fleet-wide fuel economy in the United States, according to the Union of Concerned Scientists, a Washington, D.C.-based independent research group.
"In terms of the technology that Honda and Toyota have, I would argue that they're running neck-and-neck," said David Friedman, research director of the group's Clean Vehicles Program. "But Honda has been willing to get more of it out on the road, and that's a really important difference."
With about 27,200 sold last year, hybrids make up just 2 percent of Honda's sales in the United States, where it sells a little more than half of its Civics.
Honda is projecting a rise in its U.S. fleet's average fuel economy to 29.5 miles per gallon in 2005, up from last year's 29.0 mpg and the industry average of 24.6 mpg, even as SUVs and other light trucks make up a bigger portion of its line-up.
07-05-2005, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by youngTL
That engine is SWEET!
http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=376015
So that means we can expect roughly 33mpg city and 40mpg highway, with an INCREASE in engine output?
This is why I love Honda!
http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=376015
So that means we can expect roughly 33mpg city and 40mpg highway, with an INCREASE in engine output?
This is why I love Honda!
07-07-2005, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MSZ
What a surprise...but not about the Civic engine, ToV actually updated their message forum! Holycow what took them so long?
07-07-2005, 03:57 PM
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Very impressed by these new engine specs.
More power and more MPG = WIN-WIN
More power and more MPG = WIN-WIN
07-07-2005, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Very impressed by these new engine specs.
More power and more MPG = WIN-WIN
More power and more MPG = WIN-WIN
Think I'd like to see some real world results performance & economy in favor of technobabel.
07-08-2005, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by biker
The one unknown is the weight. If the trend of all cars getting fatter applies to the new Civic, the extra power will be for naught.
Honestly, I kind of miss the stripped down bare-bones models that we used to get. I don't need half the stuff that's available on cars today. All I want is A/C and a CD player. Give me those two things in a lightweight coupe with a K24A2 and I'll be a happy camper.
07-08-2005, 11:57 AM
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new info from http://www.hondapreview.com/civic/index.htm
Coupe and Sedan
DX - Power Windows, 15" wheels, daytime running lights, front, front-side, and curtain airbags, ABS.
LX (adds to DX) - Body-Colored mirrors and door handles, 16" wheels, keyless entry, 160-watt audio system with MP3/WMA playback.
EX (adds to LX) - 16" Alloy Wheels, steering wheel mounted audio controls, MP3 auxiliary jack, XM ready head unit, and available satellite navigation system with voice recognition.
Hybrid - many EX features including satellite navigation option. Increased styling differentiation from the standard sedans.
Coupe and Sedan
DX - Power Windows, 15" wheels, daytime running lights, front, front-side, and curtain airbags, ABS.
LX (adds to DX) - Body-Colored mirrors and door handles, 16" wheels, keyless entry, 160-watt audio system with MP3/WMA playback.
EX (adds to LX) - 16" Alloy Wheels, steering wheel mounted audio controls, MP3 auxiliary jack, XM ready head unit, and available satellite navigation system with voice recognition.
Hybrid - many EX features including satellite navigation option. Increased styling differentiation from the standard sedans.