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Like all Genesis vehicles, the G70 is sold for a set price that includes all delivery and destination fees as well as an unparalleled suite of ownership benefits including Genesis at Home concierge service, complimentary scheduled maintenance, Genesis Connected Services, map updates, and more, all for five years or 100,000 km.
That's actually not a bad deal, seeing as I'd have to pay Acura $160 just to get a yearly map update DVD
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$42K starting price in Canada would mean..... around $38K in the U.S.? Aren't Canadian car prices usually a bit higher than in the U.S.?

Nonetheless, that's a very good competitive starting price.
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Full Canadian Pricing:
2.0T Advanced AWD: $42k
2.0T Sport RWD 6MT: $45.5k
2.0T Elite AWD: $47k
2.0T Prestige AWD: $52k
3.3T Dynamic AWD: $52k
3.3T Sport AWD: $57.5k

For Comparison:
BMW 330i xdrive: $45.9k
BMW 340i xdrive: $56.8k
Acura TLX 2.4: $35k
Acura TLX 3.5 AWD: $39.7k
MB C300 AWD: $44.7k
MB C43 AMG: AWD: $56.6k
Audi A4 Quattro: $42.7k
Audi S4: $58k
Lexus IS300 RWD: $41k
Lexus IS300 AWD: $43.6k
Lexus IS350 AWD: $53.1k
Infiniti Q50 2.0T: $40k
Infiniti Q50 3.0T: $45k
Infiniti Q50 Red Sport: $52.7k
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Crazy prices. Who do they think they are? BMW?

Some will want to play the equipment card to justify the price. I don't care. The Canadian 340i comes with much more equipment than in the US. Leather, sport package, navi. Enough for me. The rest is gadgets.

3.3T Sport AWD: $57.5k
BMW 340i xdrive: $56.8k
I like the G70 but this 3.3T Sport AWD version is overpriced by 8-10K.
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Genesis is already flop. sales are already falling. and used car prices down. there is no bottom for residual for lease.
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/ctd...559988223.html
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX View Post
Genesis is already flop. sales are already falling. and used car prices down. there is no bottom for residual for lease.
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/ctd...559988223.html
The betting is the 6MT cars will hold their value well.
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX View Post
Genesis is already flop. sales are already falling. and used car prices down. there is no bottom for residual for lease.
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/ctd...559988223.html
Genesis G80 still outselling RLX. By a wide margin. G80 sells over 1,000 per month. RLX sells under 200 per month. Oh. I forgot. Selling less is a good thing. Makes RLX more rare. Will become collectors item in 10 years.

You can also find used 2018 RLX's for cheap too.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/ctd...533817676.html

Asking price: $45,999.00.
Certified used. Only 15 miles.

MSRP: $55,865
Price decline of $9,866 (-17.66%)
Cost: $657.73 per mile

Someone bought and sold their RLX after only 15 miles?

Think about that for a minute. Let it sink in. Someone got rid their RLX after 15 miles. It's like the person bought it. Drove it home. Then realized the mistake he made and immediately turned around, went back to the dealer and sold it.






The Genesis G80 you linked to?

MSRP: $56,245
Asking price: $44,950.00
Price decline: $11,295.00 (-20.08%)
Cost: $1.11 per mile

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G80 is competitor to TLX not RLX and RLX is on market for while with no update when consider engine and infotainment.
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You can't deem a luxury car brand in North American a failure based on sedan sales.
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX View Post
G80 is competitor to TLX not RLX...
If G80 competes with the TLX, that would mean the G70 competes with the ILX which is in the same segment as the Audi A3, Mercedes CLA, etc. Genesis doesn't have a car that competes in that segment and they don't plan to offer one. This means the Genesis G70 competes against the TLX. And they both compete with the Audi A4, BMW 3 series, Mercedes C class, etc. Or do you believe the TLX competes with the Audi A6, BMW 5 series, Mercedes E class, etc?

Genesis Won't Build an A3 or CLA Competitor - Motor Trend

Genesis recently showed off its smallest sedan yet, the G70. Slotting in under the full-size G90 and midsize G80, Genesisí newest car is aimed squarely at the Audi A4, BMW 3 Series, and Mercedes-Benz C-Class. But if youíre waiting for Genesis to go even smaller and take on the Audi A3 and Mercedes-Benz CLA, youíll probably be disappointed.

That's why reviewers like Motortrend compared the G80 to Lexus GS, Audi A6, and Mercedes E-class which is what the RLX competes with. Or do you believe the RLX competes with the Audi A8, BMW 7 series, Mercedes S class, and Lexus LS?

2018 Genesis G80 Sport First Test Review - Motor Trend

The G80 Sport takes a very different path from its older brother by focusing on performance over plushness. The result is what often feels like a strange mix of sports car and comfortable cruiser. Packing a 3.3-liter twin-turbo V-6, the G80 produces a very healthy 365 hp routed to the rear wheels. Itís powerful enough that I didnít imagine myself wanting the G80 with the 420-hp V-8 engine, and even the base 3.8-liter V-6 with 311 hp might prove more than enough. But despite the plentiful power of our tester, the weight and steering feel suggest ambitions other than raw performance.

Numbers we gleaned from the track gave us a more solid idea of the sedanís performance compared to key competitors. It hit 60 mph from a standstill in 5.2 seconds, which is 0.2 second quicker than the G90 AWD we tested with the same engine. And itís significantly quicker than its predecessor, the Hyundai Genesis 3.8 AWD, which hit 60 mph in 6.4 seconds. The G80 Sport also ranks ahead of the 2017 Lexus GS 350 F Sport RWD, which took 5.9 seconds to launch to 60 mph. That model, however, only produces 311 hp.

Other sedans are quicker than the G80 Sport. The 2017 Mercedes-AMG E43 4Matic made the mark in 4.6 seconds, and the 2016 Audi A6 3.0T Quattro managed the deed in just 4.7 seconds, all while making just 333 hp.

In the figure eight, the Genesis G80 clocked a time of 27.5 seconds at an average 0.66 g. Other competitors performed better, including the GS F Sport, which hit the mark in 25.5 seconds at an average 0.74 g. The Mercedes managed the run in 25.1 seconds at an average of 0.77 g, and the Audi completed it in 25.3 seconds at 0.79 g.

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... and RLX is on market for while with no update when consider engine and infotainment.
Excuses, excuses. Always excuses and trying to move the goal post with you.
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ILX will get bigger in next iteration. Current Civic has more interior space than BMW 3 series and Civic Type R can pull more Gs than BMW M3. Civic Si can pull more Gs than BMW M sport. just imagine what Acura can do with ILX.


In the figure eight, the Genesis G80 clocked a time of 27.5 seconds at an average 0.66 g.
2018 Acura TLX A-Spec First Test Review: Actually Sort of Sporty - Motor Trend
Still, it managed a commendable 0.92 g of lateral acceleration and a 25.8-second figure-eight time.

TLX is as quiet as BMW 5 series if not more.
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SSFTSX mentions ILX, Civic, Civic Si, BMW 3...

...and posts a giant picture of the TLX

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is there even going to be a 2G ILX? The Civic has been out for some time now... and still no new ILX. At this rate, we will be on the 11G Civic before the 2G ILX launches on the 10G Civic platform.
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is there even going to be a 2G ILX? The Civic has been out for some time now... and still no new ILX. At this rate, we will be on the 11G Civic before the 2G ILX launches on the 10G Civic platform.
I'm just not sure there's room. There might be a 2.4 TLX replacement, but why would you invest any money into another sedan in the current market?
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G80 is competitor to TLX not RLX and RLX is on market for while with no update when consider engine and infotainment.
The G80 is NOT the competitor to the TLX. The closest thing Acura has to the G80 is the RLX!
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