Ferrari: 458 Italia News **MM Speciale Revealed (page 11)**

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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 10:09 PM
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Holy $hit.

I'm in love.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 03:07 AM
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so the KERS isn't going to make it to this model? A very impressive car nonetheless, but that would be sweet if it had KERS. I would imagine that they're more worried about the reliability of the system than people being worried about eco-friendly Ferraris
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 09:18 AM
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The 458 Italia is capable of telling the driver when the brakes, tyres and engine are at the optimum operating temperature. Called virtual race engineer, a display in the dash to the left of the rev counter shows a schematic of the car, and components change colour according to temperature. Yellow means the temperatures aren’t high enough, green is the perfect temperature and red means the car is too hot.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 10:06 AM
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that torque output is simply stunning..398lbft from 4.5L....and comes at 6000rpm..the Lambourgini LP460-4 makes the same amount of torque but comes at 6500rpm and....the engine is 5.2L.....Ferrari ftw!
318 from 3250rpm is pretty nice i'm not gonna lie. Ferrari knows how to do and they do it very well. i wan to see this thing action to be honest...

the car is pure sex.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 10:36 AM
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Maybe it will grow on me, but I hate it. The 430 is such a better looking car.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 11:50 AM
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so the KERS isn't going to make it to this model? A very impressive car nonetheless, but that would be sweet if it had KERS. I would imagine that they're more worried about the reliability of the system than people being worried about eco-friendly Ferraris
I bet we will see the KERS version released in the next year or so. Maybe on the Scuderia version...
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by AS3.0CL
318 from 3250rpm is pretty nice i'm not gonna lie. Ferrari knows how to do and they do it very well. i wan to see this thing action to be honest...

the car is pure sex.
Too bad I will never be able to afford one...
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 06:33 AM
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Maybe it will grow on me, but I hate it. The 430 is such a better looking car.
You sir need glasses!
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 09:32 AM
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You sir need glasses!
Some people think LPs sound better than CDs.
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 10:30 AM
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I LOVE that. Love the lights, the body, everything. :sexy:
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 11:11 AM
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You sir need glasses!
If you want a Ferrari Lambo, it's all yours.
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 11:21 AM
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 12:49 PM
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 03:01 PM
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^^ um..... what?
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 03:45 PM
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If you want a Ferrari Lambo, it's all yours.
Um.... what?
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 04:49 PM
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Wow, great looking and some nice tech too! Looks like a worthy successor to the F430.
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 07:52 PM
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CocheseUGA
If you want a Ferrari Lambo, it's all yours.
Oooh I get it. Because it has tall headlights like the Gallardo, it's a Lambo!
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 09:26 PM
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Oooh I get it. Because it has tall headlights like the Gallardo, it's a Lambo!
I gotta say, the headlight/hood pontoons are not attractive and detract from the rest of the car. Hopefully a MMY change will smooth out the lights and front end if the silly angles & wedges aren't necessary for aero management.
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Belzebutt
Oooh I get it. Because it has tall headlights like the Gallardo, it's a Lambo!
Didn't even make that comparison. Look at the side profile. It looks like they crossed a Gallardo and a McLaren F1. (Or, alternatively, some gross misrepresentation of the 360)

It just doesn't look like a Ferrari should, at least to me. Of course, I hated the 360 and Enzo as well. Everything else they've done recently, I love. They got rid of two things on the F430 I loved - the hood, and the side profile (specifically, the window and arch lines). They also got rid of a near-universal aesthetically pleasing design - the long hood, short deck. (Yes, even on the MR cars). This is more of a successor to the 360, whereas the F430 could probably be more correctly called the successor to the F355.

IMO, it may outperform the F430, but it will never look as good. Can't put out great cars all the time, I suppose.

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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 11:27 AM
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Reminds me of the new Maseratis...and that is a good thing
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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 01:44 PM
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Holy. Fawk. its like a baby Enzo. WTF. hot hot hot!!!!!!!!
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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 10:30 PM
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 10:23 AM
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...so, you're saying Honda copied from Ferrari? Because this new F-car is clearly derived from the F430/360 Modena.
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bgsm1th
...so, you're saying Honda copied from Ferrari? Because this new F-car is clearly derived from the F430/360 Modena.
and the Enzo...

which came first, the Enzo or the HSC?
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by iforyou



In this day and age, every car in the same class, wheter it be sports cars, luxury cars, SUV's, or even mundane sedans shares in one way or another similar design cues.

Seriously, if you really try hard enough of meticulously examining every car to find other cars design, you can see some resemblance designs of other cars.

Its just matter of how much time is being devoted to find resemblance, with a blend of predetermined biased/perception of that car brand in subject.

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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 01:14 PM
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We are not talking about regular cars here though.. sure you got the companies blatantly copying off others but we would like to think that cars like THIS are held to a higher standard. These are supercars which have a higher level of scrutiny attached to their design. And furthermore, this is a very clear and blatant influence. If you step back and look at the bigger picture, all cars look the same, they all have headlights, hoods, doors, wheels, roofs, windshields, 3/4 panels, taillights, etc. etc. etc. We are talking about valid design issues here.
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 01:23 PM
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We are not talking about regular cars here though.. sure you got the companies blatantly copying off others but we would like to think that cars like THIS are held to a higher standard. These are supercars which have a higher level of scrutiny attached to their design. And furthermore, this is a very clear and blatant influence. If you step back and look at the bigger picture, all cars look the same, they all have headlights, hoods, doors, wheels, roofs, windshields, 3/4 panels, taillights, etc. etc. etc. We are talking about valid design issues here.
You just have contradicted yourself.

It doesnt matter if its a exclusive sports car like Ferrari, lambo, etc. At the end of the day, they are just cars. Just like you said, step back and look at the bigger picture, That ferrari and concept NSX both have two doors, headlights, hoods, wheels, tailights, etc.
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 01:29 PM
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Well, it's just same with the 2g Insight and Prius..who copied who? People think the Insight copied the Prius. But then I believed the 2g Insight is just an evolutionary design from the 1g design, plus 2 more doors. And then that design is pretty much from the CRX in the 1980's.....

Anyways, my point wasn't copying each other, I just felt that the HSC and the new 458 look similar, and they both look very good, IMO.
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by msl82
You just have contradicted yourself.

It doesnt matter if its a exclusive sports car like Ferrari, lambo, etc. At the end of the day, they are just cars. Just like you said, step back and look at the bigger picture, That ferrari and concept NSX both have two doors, headlights, hoods, wheels, tailights, etc.
Not really. You were saying that if you look close enough you can find resemblances to other cars. I'm saying, yes, you can, because of the bigger picture. But, I'm saying this case is different, we are talking about specific details that are above and beyond the regular resemblances you may see.
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
and the Enzo...

which came first, the Enzo or the HSC?
ok so the Enzo came out in 2002 and the HSC was unveiled in 2003. Without knowing the design history as far as development is concerned, this is what we have to go off of. See where I'm going with this?
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 07:22 PM
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Acura designer can only wish to come up with something that looks like the 458. In fact that HSC looks downright amateur next to the Ferrari.
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 08:51 PM
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 09:26 PM
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Oooo i want one
Don't we all.

Except for Cochese.
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 10:09 PM
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Don't we all.

Except for Cochese.
I beg to differ....I want TWO!!!!!!
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 10:19 PM
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Don't we all.

Except for Cochese.
who wouldn't want one!!
time to go find rich husband to buy me one hahah j/k
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 10:27 PM
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who wouldn't want one!!
time to go find rich husband to buy me one hahah j/k
Sadly, you have a better chance at finding a sugar daddy than men have a chance of finding a sugar momma. Post pics when you get it or

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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
Don't we all.

Except for Cochese.
I'd rather have the slower car that looks better, is all.
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 08:09 AM
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Acura designer can only wish to come up with something that looks like the 458. In fact that HSC looks downright amateur next to the Ferrari.
Considering the difference of a budget they are working on, of course its going to be different.

Do you think the ferrari designers would be able to come up with amazing design like 458 Italia if they had the same budget as NSX designers?

So for you to say that Acura designers can only wish to come up with something like 458, you are not considering the reality and the environment in which both company engineers and desginers are working on. Ferrari 458 is almost twice as expensive as NSX, therefore, the budget allowed for research, design and developing their cars would be so much higher than NSX.

Think before you speak, it shows your ignorance and level of cognitive ability...
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 08:25 AM
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Money =/= good design.
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