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Chrysler Imperial Concept **Potential upscale model (page 3)**

Imperial Concept from Chrysler? - - Source: The Car Connection

While Chrysler has already confirmed that it will have a Dodge Challenger concept for Detroit , the company's been considerably more tight-lipped about another concept that could be on display at Cobo Hall. An anonymous tip to TCC says a Chrysler Imperial concept will be shown off in Detroit , reviving the nameplate for the most luxurious Chrysler vehicles that died away in the 1990s. Drawn off the 300C body, the stretched-wheelbase Imperial concept is said to evolve the 300C in a Rolls Phantom direction-much as the current 300C has been dubbed the "baby Bentley."
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I dont think there is much of a business case for such an offering from Chrysler currently.
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Bently = 300C
Rolls Royce = Imperial
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Originally Posted by gavriil
I dont think there is much of a business case for such an offering from Chrysler currently.
could you please explain?

if priced correctly, could this sell as well as the 300c? what do you think?
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It looks too high for me... if it is lower it would look great. I am not crazy about the front either.
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I think it's U-G-L-Y
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i have to admit..i kinda like it

and i normally don't like chrysler much, except the 300C but this looks pretty sweet
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I think it's a bit over the top in all styling respects. I'm trying to picture WHO exactly would be the intended buyer for this car?
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Originally Posted by gavriil
I dont think there is much of a business case for such an offering from Chrysler currently.
It's rare, but I totally disagree with you. Chrysler has decided to strike while the iron's hot. The 300 is seen by many as a great alternative to lux makes at a great value; it's credentials are all there (E-Class derived RWD platform, available V8, a design that has sold well). The same people will will look find the same qualities in the Imperial, and it'll be half the price of an S-Class. Also, Chrysler will be alone in a market with a car positioned above the 300/Avalon/500/Max crowd. If done correctly, Chrysler won't be able to keep them on the lot. ESPECIALLY if they look like a "baby Rolls" to compliment the 300's "baby Bently" look.
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Holy crap are you kidding me? That car is going to fly off the lots ... It looks like a Bentley/RR clone ... It's going to do very, very, very well if it goes to market.

Think about all the people that would buy the old Fleetwood/DeVille from Cadillac but don't because they can't afford it. Going to be a huge hit.
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Originally Posted by charliemike
Think about all the people that would buy the old Fleetwood/DeVille from Cadillac but don't because they can't afford it. Going to be a huge hit.
It'll do even better than a Fleetwood or Deville... and not because of the price. The Caddys were "old folk's cars." Chrysler has effectively shaken off it's old image, and driving a 300 or Magnum is cool now. A much wider customer base would look seriously at the Imperial that would never look at a Fleetwood or Roadmaster because they actually want to be seen in one.
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Originally Posted by charliemike
Holy crap are you kidding me? That car is going to fly off the lots ... It looks like a Bentley/RR clone ... It's going to do very, very, very well if it goes to market.

Think about all the people that would buy the old Fleetwood/DeVille from Cadillac but don't because they can't afford it. Going to be a huge hit.
I think this is going to be a lot more than a DeVille. It's based on an S-class and should be priced similarly to a top of the line STS.
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Looks like a 300c rehash to me
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Originally Posted by SpeedyV6
I think this is going to be a lot more than a DeVille. It's based on an S-class and should be priced similarly to a top of the line STS.
It's not S-Class based. It's a stetched (about 6in) 300 platform, which is basically the last gen's E-Class.
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Very ugly. I thought Motor Trend would be above showing such cars on its pages.
I guess not! :shakehead
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I want to hate it because I think it's such a Bentley/RR wannabe looking car, but I have to admit it's a very nice design. if they don't price it too high, I think it's going to sell very well, and maybe move the Chrysler brand's identity into a higher market segment.
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Terrible. I hope they do not build this monstrosity
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Doesn't look right. A bit too tall for my tastes...
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Originally Posted by titan
It's rare, but I totally disagree with you. Chrysler has decided to strike while the iron's hot. The 300 is seen by many as a great alternative to lux makes at a great value; it's credentials are all there (E-Class derived RWD platform, available V8, a design that has sold well). The same people will will look find the same qualities in the Imperial, and it'll be half the price of an S-Class. Also, Chrysler will be alone in a market with a car positioned above the 300/Avalon/500/Max crowd. If done correctly, Chrysler won't be able to keep them on the lot. ESPECIALLY if they look like a "baby Rolls" to compliment the 300's "baby Bently" look.
Imperial will be Imperial and an S-Class will be an S-Class. People that are looking to buy an S-Class will not buy the Imperial. It's simple as that.

The 300 has many short-comings, that were swept under a rug, by great marketing.
The E-class platform worked ok for the E-class. With the 300, it received more weight, softer suspension and the overall balance of the car disappeared.

A big engine in an outdate platform and unbalanced suspension works for the same people that buy 6L engine trucks to feel like a man, when driving to the local mall.

I get cut off by 300 drivers all the time. I'm guessing it's a result of looking through those unpractical windows.
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Originally Posted by dozorca
Imperial will be Imperial and an S-Class will be an S-Class. People that are looking to buy an S-Class will not buy the Imperial. It's simple as that.
I'm not saying that the Imperial will steal S-Class buyers. DCX will essentially open themselves up to a new market. Many of the people buying the Imperial will look at the size, specs, and style and view it as a car they can buy that is a value alternative to the majors. From the 300 owners I've talked to, that's how they feel about it in comparison to luxury cars. People who are looking to buy an S-Class, will ofcourse buy one (if they so choose); but those who would like to, and can't, will jump at the Imperial. Despite whatever shortcomings the 300 might have, it's a highly aspirational car; mostly due to excellent marketing. The result has been a fat bottom line, and that's what really counts in DCX's eyes. DCX sees an opportunity to parlay it's success with the 300 in a reborn Imperial... ofcourse they'll take it.
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wannabe bentley.
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i could see this selling very well on the japanese market. they like this kinda thing.
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No offense, but I think that would do very well in the U.S. as well.

People would buy a $50k (give or take) Imperial that looks more or less like a RR Phantom.
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No offense, but I think that would do very well in the U.S. as well.

People would buy a $50k (give or take) Imperial that looks more or less like a RR Phantom.
nah you're probably right. im just not a fan.
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I hate it, but that just means every wannabe "baller" out there will buy one.
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Chrysler Imperial Concept - - Source: Autoweek

Chrysler Imperial Concept

Envisioned as a “noble” yet attainable flagship positioned a cut above the 300C (“It’s a six-figure image but at a much lower price,” says Tremont), the concept designed in Chrysler’s Auburn Hills studio doesn’t mimic Imperials of the past, but it does draw on some of the styling cues from those older cars. It also carries expressive attributes from Chrysler’s long line of concept cars, from the 1953 d’Elegance to the Fire-power that premiered at last year’s Detroit show. The wide-open, B-pillar-less doors allow a panoramic view of the show car’s opulent four-seat, two-tone interior, where no expense is spared when it comes to use of leather, suede, California burl wood accents and satin-finished aluminum. Designers also paid considerable attention to handcrafted components like the sculptured instrument panel with large dual gauges, coved ceiling, and the floating oval armrests in the doors, all bathed in warm light.






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Give ’Em an Inch - - By BOB GRITZINGER - - Source; Autoweek

At the opposite extreme lies the luxurious Imperial riding on a 123-inch wheelbase, a three-inch stretch over the 300C. To achieve the proper proportions for the concept, the overall length grows 17 inches to 214 inches, and the overall height is six inches taller than a 300C. The car rides on massive 22-inch turbine-finned wheels and tires, with passengers sitting nearly seven inches higher than in the 300C.

Envisioned as a “noble” yet attainable flagship positioned a cut above the 300C (“It’s a six-figure image but at a much lower price,” says Tremont), the concept designed in Chrysler’s Auburn Hills studio doesn’t mimic Imperials of the past, but it does draw on some of the styling cues from those older cars. It also carries expressive attributes from Chrysler’s long line of concept cars, from the 1953 d’Elegance to the Fire-power that premiered at last year’s Detroit show.

Among the design details incorporated into the concept: the long flowing hood and front end dominated by an upright radiator and strong horizontal grille; brushed and polished aluminum pods that evoke free-standing headlamps of Imperials from the 1930s and 1960s; circular LED taillights with floating outer rings that bring back the “gun sight” taillight look of early 1960s Imperials; and a roofline pulled rearward to enlarge the cabin and create a strong profile.

The wide-open, B-pillar-less doors allow a panoramic view of the show car’s opulent four-seat, two-tone interior, where no expense is spared when it comes to use of leather, suede, California burl wood accents and satin-finished aluminum. Designers also paid considerable attention to handcrafted components like the sculptured instrument panel with large dual gauges, coved ceiling, and the floating oval armrests in the doors, all bathed in warm light.

Dynamically, Imperial also is diametrically opposed to Challenger, with the latter adopting a full-throated roar while the former is loaded with sound-deadening insulation and is tuned for smooth and silent running. But even in its subtlety, the stately Imperial is more driver’s car than chauffeur-driven limousine, says Chrysler design chief Trevor Creed. Power for the concept comes from the standard 5.7-liter, 340-hp, 390-lb-ft Hemi V8, linked to a five-speed transmission lifted from the Mercedes E-Class.

“This is the car for somebody who has made it, who takes great pleasure in driving from place to place,” says Creed.

Though Chrysler execs won’t commit to production plans for either car, there are obvious advantages to building the concepts on the so-called LX platform that underpins the wildly successful 300C, Dodge Magnum and Charger production cars. Not only does using existing hardware help contain the astronomical cost of building show cars, but in the event one or both concepts gets the green light, Chrysler has a much easier path to building production versions, and gets even more return on its engineering and tooling investment in the rear-drive LX platform.

“These are strictly concepts, but we like to see people get excited because it might help make the case to take one or the other to production,” says Tremont. “There will be a completely different draw to these cars—the Mopar followers will have their Challenger, and the Imperial will appeal to a completely different audience. But they will both stimulate people’s thought processes about what could be a Chrysler.”

We can only hope that, given a few inches, Chrysler designers and product planners will take the whole foot—and mash it on the accelerator all the way to the showroom.
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That car is about the FUGLIEST car ive seen
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Great now they trying to make cheap knockoff designs like Kia does!
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That. is. terrible......
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Well, I really like the interior. As for the exterior... hmph... I can say this. It'll be another sales success.
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The profile is great, its rolls/bentley all in one. The front end is marginal and the rear end looks like shite. Obviously they are trying to mimick Rolls Phantom but its not cashing out this time.
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
That car is about the FUGLIEST car ive seen
Still an improvement from vehicles like the Lincoln Navigator imho. I could do without the Kenworth / Peterbilt grille though.
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I think it could be a hit and if nothing else, that should be the next interior for the 300C SRT-8

That is just amazing looking.
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I dont love it....but its very smart on chryslers part.
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Great now they trying to make cheap knockoff designs like Kia does!


Originally Posted by fsttyms1
That car is about the FUGLIEST car ive seen


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