Chevrolet: Camaro News
#522
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Originally Posted by Crazy Acura
I like this WAY better than the current Mustang.
But the mustang has been out since 2005, so it's due for a refresh anyways...
It's a shame that all these great muscle cars are coming out and we're paying over $4 a gallon for gas
#523
Chloe @ 17mo
Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Both floor mats are carpet. The driver side floor made as rubber area for the drivers heel, to help cause less wear. This isnt anything new.
That's exactly what I sees.
#524
Chloe @ 17mo
Originally Posted by majin ssj eric
I think this thing looks awesome!!! Wonder if they are offering nav with it???
#525
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Looks very good. Interior design is very well done.
If I didn't have a boner for the Challenger, I'd go with this.
If I didn't have a boner for the Challenger, I'd go with this.
I want this car about as much as you want the new Challenger.
#526
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Originally Posted by dom
I want this car about as much as you want the new Challenger.
#528
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Originally Posted by majin ssj eric
I think this thing looks awesome!!! Wonder if they are offering nav with it???
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Originally Posted by dom
I want this car about as much as you want the new Challenger.
#531
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Originally Posted by AlterZgo
Exterior is fantastic. Interior is horrible. Too bad 99% of the time, you're staring at the interior of the car.
#532
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
It's a shame that all these great muscle cars are coming out and we're paying over $4 a gallon for gas
i agree... terrible timing...
#533
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Originally Posted by AsianRage
I want it. I would hit it. I would hit it long time.
#535
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...opanel..1.*#10
Good article on what the upcoming Camaro is going to have. 3900+ lbs for the SS Don't know if Edmunds is correct but everyone is saying that they Camaro is going to weigh "only" 3700 lbs, though they don't specify whether or not thats the L99/LS3 model or the V6.
However, the RS package will include HIDs!
Sometimes this car gives me a hard-on and sometimes I just don't know. Sure, a 4th gen Camaro weighs some 200+ lbs more than a 3rd gen, yet at the same time is a huge improvement in handling, straight line performance, and comfort. I'm sure GM can pull off the same thing even with 500 lbs more, IRS or not. On paper and in pictures it seems they're doing so already. What I'm worried about is how they're going to disguise all that weight? Some cars just "feel" lighter than what they actually weigh... and my experience with Camaros and Corvettes has proven to me that they don't exactly feel light.
I can't wait until tomorrow for the unveiling. Sadly I'll be at work
another one of GM's great ideas! Have an unveiling of an iconic pony car on a Monday afternoon when everyone's at work, just brilliant!
The placement of the reverse lights is starting to bother me also.... at least gone is the stupid hump in the passenger footwell! Anyone who's rode shotgun in an S2000 or a Camaro/Firebird will know what I'm talking about.
oh and as for the mismatching carpet, the mat itself looks like a purplish black while the actual floorboard carpet looks to be a charcoal color. Could be the lighting?
Hmm... I really don't know how I feel about it still!
Good article on what the upcoming Camaro is going to have. 3900+ lbs for the SS Don't know if Edmunds is correct but everyone is saying that they Camaro is going to weigh "only" 3700 lbs, though they don't specify whether or not thats the L99/LS3 model or the V6.
However, the RS package will include HIDs!
Sometimes this car gives me a hard-on and sometimes I just don't know. Sure, a 4th gen Camaro weighs some 200+ lbs more than a 3rd gen, yet at the same time is a huge improvement in handling, straight line performance, and comfort. I'm sure GM can pull off the same thing even with 500 lbs more, IRS or not. On paper and in pictures it seems they're doing so already. What I'm worried about is how they're going to disguise all that weight? Some cars just "feel" lighter than what they actually weigh... and my experience with Camaros and Corvettes has proven to me that they don't exactly feel light.
I can't wait until tomorrow for the unveiling. Sadly I'll be at work
another one of GM's great ideas! Have an unveiling of an iconic pony car on a Monday afternoon when everyone's at work, just brilliant!
The placement of the reverse lights is starting to bother me also.... at least gone is the stupid hump in the passenger footwell! Anyone who's rode shotgun in an S2000 or a Camaro/Firebird will know what I'm talking about.
oh and as for the mismatching carpet, the mat itself looks like a purplish black while the actual floorboard carpet looks to be a charcoal color. Could be the lighting?
Hmm... I really don't know how I feel about it still!
#538
The sizzle in the Steak
Love it all inside and out.....except for this part.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Love it all inside and out.....except for this part.
The controls placed pretty well to change your stereo stuff while resting your hand on the shifter.
Other than that its Chevy saying...no aftermarket headunits
#541
The sizzle in the Steak
Originally Posted by AsianRage
Looks like there's enough space for a Nav unit, no?
#542
^Yes, there's probably space for a double din.... but look how curved the dash around the radio is. It would look weird as hell.
And I don't know about the radio controls either. reminds me of a Super Nintendo controller for some reason.
Is anyone watching the unveiling of the Camaro? I'm at work gmnext.com
And I don't know about the radio controls either. reminds me of a Super Nintendo controller for some reason.
Is anyone watching the unveiling of the Camaro? I'm at work gmnext.com
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
GM says to navi....and to On-Star voice navigation via speakers and MFD on the gauge cluster.
I will never buy a car equipped with OnStar again.
OnStar
#544
Chloe @ 17mo
Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
GM says to navi....and to On-Star voice navigation via speakers and MFD on the gauge cluster.
#547
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The base Camaro engine is GM’s 3.6-liter four-cam, direct-injection V6, tuned to 300 horsepower and 273 pound-feet of torque. That’s a 90-hp edge on the base 4.0-liter V6 in the Mustang, and 50 better than Challenger’s 3.5-liter V6. The specs suggest that, even with its 400-pound weight disadvantage, the base Camaro (3741pounds) will be quicker than the Mustang. Moreover, Chevy projects an EPA rating of 26 mpg highway with the standard six-speed manual or the six-speed automatic. For what’s probably considered a “muscle car,” that’s better than respectable.
The Camaro SS upgrades with the standard Corvette LS3 aluminum V8, but only with the six-speed manual. The LS3 generates 422 horsepower and 408 pound-feet of torque--essentially the same as the 6.1-liter iron-block Hemi in the Challenger SRT10, but less than the line-topping, supercharged Mustang Shelby GT500. Chevy expects an EPA highway rating of 23 mpg for the SS manual.
SS buyers who prefer the six-speed automatic will get a new small-block variant, designated L99. Peaks drop to 408 hp and 395 lb-ft, but the L99 is equipped with GM’s Active Fuel Management cylinder de-activation technology. That should improve mileage for drivers who can keep their foot out of it.
The SS also comes with sport-tuned suspension, four-piston, fixed aluminum caliper Brembo brakes front and rear, and 20-inch wheels with Z-rated summer-grade Pirellis.
Track numbers? Impressive, according to Doug Houlihan, GM’s chief engineer for global rear-drive vehicles. He said the V6 goes 0-60 mph in 6.1 seconds, finishes the quarter mile in 14.5 and stops from 60 in 132 feet. The SS hits 60 in the 4.6-4.7 range, completes the quarter in 13.2 and stops from 60 mph in 117 feet.
Serial production begins Feb. 16 in Oshawa, Ontario. Initially, the Camaro will be offered in three trim levels: Base LS, with standard XM, OnStar and six airbags; LT V6 with more stuff and leather; and the SS. All three will offer an RS appearance package, with exact content specific to the trim level. On the SS, the RS package will add a unique wheel design and HID headlights.
We can expect a convertible by the spring of 2010, according to Peper, though the Chevy honcho was tight-lipped on other possible variants, including a higher-mileage model with GM’s 2.0-liter, turbocharged DI four. Peper was also coy about specific prices.
The Camaro SS upgrades with the standard Corvette LS3 aluminum V8, but only with the six-speed manual. The LS3 generates 422 horsepower and 408 pound-feet of torque--essentially the same as the 6.1-liter iron-block Hemi in the Challenger SRT10, but less than the line-topping, supercharged Mustang Shelby GT500. Chevy expects an EPA highway rating of 23 mpg for the SS manual.
SS buyers who prefer the six-speed automatic will get a new small-block variant, designated L99. Peaks drop to 408 hp and 395 lb-ft, but the L99 is equipped with GM’s Active Fuel Management cylinder de-activation technology. That should improve mileage for drivers who can keep their foot out of it.
The SS also comes with sport-tuned suspension, four-piston, fixed aluminum caliper Brembo brakes front and rear, and 20-inch wheels with Z-rated summer-grade Pirellis.
Track numbers? Impressive, according to Doug Houlihan, GM’s chief engineer for global rear-drive vehicles. He said the V6 goes 0-60 mph in 6.1 seconds, finishes the quarter mile in 14.5 and stops from 60 in 132 feet. The SS hits 60 in the 4.6-4.7 range, completes the quarter in 13.2 and stops from 60 mph in 117 feet.
Serial production begins Feb. 16 in Oshawa, Ontario. Initially, the Camaro will be offered in three trim levels: Base LS, with standard XM, OnStar and six airbags; LT V6 with more stuff and leather; and the SS. All three will offer an RS appearance package, with exact content specific to the trim level. On the SS, the RS package will add a unique wheel design and HID headlights.
We can expect a convertible by the spring of 2010, according to Peper, though the Chevy honcho was tight-lipped on other possible variants, including a higher-mileage model with GM’s 2.0-liter, turbocharged DI four. Peper was also coy about specific prices.
Time to start saving some pennies. 300HP from the V6 is a smart move IMO.
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Interesting to find out Dodge is making a SRT10 version of the Challenger...
Retard needs to check his info...
Retard needs to check his info...
#550
2010 Chevy Camaro - Official Details
2010 Chevy Camaro - Official Details
Three models - LS, LT, SS
LS and LT come with 3.6L direct-inject V6 (300 hp/273 lb-ft)
SS six-speed manual comes with 6.2L LS3 V8 (422 hp/408 lb-ft)
SS six-speed automatic comes with new 6.2L L99 V8 (400 hp/395 ft-lb) and Active Fuel Management
3.6L DI V6 gets 26 mpg highway
6.2L V8 with automatic gets 23 mpg highway
RS appearance package available on LT and SS (includes HID headlamps with integrated halo rings, spoiler, specific taillamps and 20-inch wheels)
Front and rear independent suspension
FE2 suspension for LS and LT, sportier FE3 for SS
Four-wheel disc ABS standard, SS gets four-piston Brembo calipers
SS model gets adjustable Competitive/Sport mode for stability control and Launch Control on manual models
Available 18-,19- and 20-inch wheels
Three models - LS, LT, SS
LS and LT come with 3.6L direct-inject V6 (300 hp/273 lb-ft)
SS six-speed manual comes with 6.2L LS3 V8 (422 hp/408 lb-ft)
SS six-speed automatic comes with new 6.2L L99 V8 (400 hp/395 ft-lb) and Active Fuel Management
3.6L DI V6 gets 26 mpg highway
6.2L V8 with automatic gets 23 mpg highway
RS appearance package available on LT and SS (includes HID headlamps with integrated halo rings, spoiler, specific taillamps and 20-inch wheels)
Front and rear independent suspension
FE2 suspension for LS and LT, sportier FE3 for SS
Four-wheel disc ABS standard, SS gets four-piston Brembo calipers
SS model gets adjustable Competitive/Sport mode for stability control and Launch Control on manual models
Available 18-,19- and 20-inch wheels
#551
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Loved this car since I saw it at last year's Auto Show. Thanks for the specs.
Any pics of the interior?
Any pics of the interior?
#552
I knew weight would be an issue. There are already stock 4th gen Camaros that are in the 12s in the 1/4.
I'm confident it would destroy a 4th gen around the track though.... would have been interesting to see it run on the Nurburgring.
I'm confident it would destroy a 4th gen around the track though.... would have been interesting to see it run on the Nurburgring.
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http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=129586
DETROIT — You can't launch a car with any aspirations of "performance" and not do your time at Germany's famed Nürburgring racetrack — it's just plain expected these days. So General Motors Corp. certainly wasn't about to shy away from the 'Ring with the sizzling new 2010 Chevrolet Camaro. At Monday's official unveiling of the production version of the new-age Camaro, Inside Line chased down a ranking Camaro engineer and asked for the crucial lap time.
Doug Houlihan, GM's chief engineer for global rear-wheel-drive vehicles (the architecture underneath the Camaro, the Pontiac G8 and all that blowsy, big-V8 Holden stuff from Australia, where the platform originates), coughed it right up: A Camaro SS ran the Nürburgring in 8:20.
A quick scan of an authoritative listing (it definitely looks authoritative, anyway) of Nürburgring lap times at supercars.net shows cars posting a lap time of 8:20 include the E36-generation BMW M3 in 1999, the Porsche 911 GT3 (993 generation) in the same year driven by 'Ring ace Walter Roehrl and stuff like the Audi RS6 in 2001. For a little extra perspective on that 8:20 lap time, GM recently boasted the coming '09 Corvette ZR1 did it in 7:26.4.
"We learned a few things," from the 'Ring session, says Houlihan, which led the Camaro development team to tire supplier Pirelli for some subtle changes that he says fine-tuned steering response and turn-in, and also resulted in some nitty-gritty tweaks for suspension settings — all of which will further improve the Camaro's on-road handling.
Houlihan also said all Camaros — V8 or V6 — will feature the best StabiliTrak stability control system GM can offer; the SS enjoys essentially the software from the Corvette's magnificent Active Handling system that we insist remains the world standard in performance-oriented stability control. The Camaro SS stability control will have a track mode, a performance mode and a setting that fully disables stability and traction control. Stability/traction control for all Camaros can be fully disabled, but Camaro SSs with the six-speed manual also get a launch control feature.
Houlihan also said the 2010 Camaro's coefficient of drag is an OK, but unremarkable 0.35 for the SS and 0.36 for the LS/LT V6 models. Ed Welburn, GM's vice president of global design, said it's tough to get super-slippery aero numbers for cars with full-width grilles and recessed headlights — design cues Welburn and his styling team insisted on, obviously, to deliver on the 2010 Camaro's retro promise.
We whined the RS appearance package that adds high-intensity discharge, "halo ring" headlamps, unique tail lamps, a rear spoiler and 20-inch wheels makes it almost impossible to distinguish a V8-packing Camaro from a V6 job. But for those of you who can spot the difference of an inch, Houlihan says there's one giveaway: the exhaust tips for the Camaro SS, which is V8 only, are 96mm (3.7 inches) in diameter. But LT Camaros (standard 3.6-liter V6) — even with the RS package — have exhaust tips that are just 3 inches in diameter.
What this means to you: The Nürburgring number proves even if it's a little heavy, a Camaro SS can run with some pretty exclusive company. And with 300 horsepower, the Camaro V6 doesn't exactly earn the "secretary car" stereotype, either. — Bill Visnic, Senior Editor, Edmunds AutoObserver
Doug Houlihan, GM's chief engineer for global rear-wheel-drive vehicles (the architecture underneath the Camaro, the Pontiac G8 and all that blowsy, big-V8 Holden stuff from Australia, where the platform originates), coughed it right up: A Camaro SS ran the Nürburgring in 8:20.
A quick scan of an authoritative listing (it definitely looks authoritative, anyway) of Nürburgring lap times at supercars.net shows cars posting a lap time of 8:20 include the E36-generation BMW M3 in 1999, the Porsche 911 GT3 (993 generation) in the same year driven by 'Ring ace Walter Roehrl and stuff like the Audi RS6 in 2001. For a little extra perspective on that 8:20 lap time, GM recently boasted the coming '09 Corvette ZR1 did it in 7:26.4.
"We learned a few things," from the 'Ring session, says Houlihan, which led the Camaro development team to tire supplier Pirelli for some subtle changes that he says fine-tuned steering response and turn-in, and also resulted in some nitty-gritty tweaks for suspension settings — all of which will further improve the Camaro's on-road handling.
Houlihan also said all Camaros — V8 or V6 — will feature the best StabiliTrak stability control system GM can offer; the SS enjoys essentially the software from the Corvette's magnificent Active Handling system that we insist remains the world standard in performance-oriented stability control. The Camaro SS stability control will have a track mode, a performance mode and a setting that fully disables stability and traction control. Stability/traction control for all Camaros can be fully disabled, but Camaro SSs with the six-speed manual also get a launch control feature.
Houlihan also said the 2010 Camaro's coefficient of drag is an OK, but unremarkable 0.35 for the SS and 0.36 for the LS/LT V6 models. Ed Welburn, GM's vice president of global design, said it's tough to get super-slippery aero numbers for cars with full-width grilles and recessed headlights — design cues Welburn and his styling team insisted on, obviously, to deliver on the 2010 Camaro's retro promise.
We whined the RS appearance package that adds high-intensity discharge, "halo ring" headlamps, unique tail lamps, a rear spoiler and 20-inch wheels makes it almost impossible to distinguish a V8-packing Camaro from a V6 job. But for those of you who can spot the difference of an inch, Houlihan says there's one giveaway: the exhaust tips for the Camaro SS, which is V8 only, are 96mm (3.7 inches) in diameter. But LT Camaros (standard 3.6-liter V6) — even with the RS package — have exhaust tips that are just 3 inches in diameter.
What this means to you: The Nürburgring number proves even if it's a little heavy, a Camaro SS can run with some pretty exclusive company. And with 300 horsepower, the Camaro V6 doesn't exactly earn the "secretary car" stereotype, either. — Bill Visnic, Senior Editor, Edmunds AutoObserver
#558
Chloe @ 17mo
Originally Posted by Loseit
the only thing dissapointing so far is the lack of nav.
it has a 19 gallon tank! wow...
it has a 19 gallon tank! wow...
#559
Chloe @ 17mo
Jalopnik has a vid of the V8 version with more pics.
http://jalopnik.com/399054/video-new...?autoplay=true
http://jalopnik.com/399054/video-new...?autoplay=true