gavriil

I am sorry but let's not forget that there is a 5 series car available with a 2.5 liter 190HP engine.

gavriil

True.

1SICKLEX

Gav so it is battling the GS/E/5?? The last Seville was in comparos against the S/LS/7 etc (and got creamed over and over).

Is is smaller? The last Seville was a very long car.

charliemike

Heh, is it that high now? Last I had looked the 525i was rated at 184 ... Which apparently keeps no one from dropping $48k on a 525iA

cusdaddy

yup... the 525 is 184hp... pretty pathetic for a car of that $$ IMO

Beltfed

2005 Cadillac STS

Models V6 RWD, V8 RWD, V8 AWD

Interior
Aluminum Trim Package, premium aluminum trim, includes center stack and console

Cruise control, adaptive, sophisticated radar transceiver automatically adjusts speed to maintain preset following distance, includes telltale in head-up in reconfigurable head-up display

Head-Up Display, reconfigurable, includes digital readouts for vehicle speed, selected gear, adaptive cruise indicator, radio information, high-beam indicator, fuel level, six languages available (English, French, German, Italian, Japanese, Spanish)

Keyless Access, includes keyless ignition which is engaged with push button start, and 2 remote transmitters which enable passive entry on both front doors and trunk, and remote start capability

Steering wheel, mounted controls, includes controls for sound system, HVAC system, voice recognition and Adaptive Cruise Control (if equipped)

Wood Trim Package, includes real eucalyptus wood on steering wheel, shifter knob, center stack and console, IP spear molding and door pulls

Stereo
ETR AM/FM Bose 4.0 with CD player, includes Radio Data System and 8 speakers

ETR AM/FM Bose 4.0 with in-dash 6 disc CD changer, includes Radio Data System and 8 speakers

ETR AM/FM Studio Surround Sound Bose 5.1 with in-dash 6 disc DVD changer, includes Radio Data System, seek-and-scan, digital clock, automatic volume compensation, TheftLock, weather band, digital signal processing and 15 speakers, rear passenger A/V jacks

ETR AM/FM Studio Surround Sound Bose 5.1 with in-dash 6 disc DVD changer, DVD-based Advanced Navigation, includes Radio Data System, seek-and-scan, digital clock, automatic volume compensation, TheftLock, weather band, digital signal processing and 15 speakers, rear passenger A/V jacks

Exterior
Glass, laminated front side for quiet car characteristics

Exhaust outlets, dual chrome-plated tips

Headlamps, halogen, Tungsten, windshield wiper activated, includes Twilight Sentinel and flash-to-pass feature

Headlamps, Intellibeam, automatic low/high beam control

Headlamps, Xenon, high-intensity discharge, windshield wiper activated, includes flash-to-pass and headlamp washers

Spoiler, decklid

Rear Parking Assist, Ultrasonic, includes rearview LED display and audible warning

Tires, P235/50R17, Michelin, S-rated, all-season, blackwall

Tires, P235/50R17 front and P255/45R17 rear, Michelin, V-rated, all-season, blackwall

Tires, P235/50R18 front and P255/45R18 rear, Michelin, W-rated, all-season, blackwall

Wheels, 2 - 17" x 7.5" (43.2 cm x 19.1 cm) front, 2 - 17" x 8" (43.2 cm x 20.3 cm) rear, cast aluminum, painted, 7-spoke

Wheels, 2 - 17" x 7.5" (43.2 cm x 19.1 cm) front, 2 - 17" x 8" (43.2 cm x 20.3 cm) rear, cast aluminum, polished, 7-spoke

Wheels, 4 - 18" x 8" (45.6 cm x 20.3 cm) cast aluminum polished, 9-spoke faceted

Wheels, 4 17" x 7.5" (43.2 cm x 19.1 cm) cast aluminum painted, 7-spoke

Wheels, 4 - 17" x 7.5" (43.2 cm x 19.1 cm) aluminum polished

Wipers, Rainsense

Mechanical
Brakes, Panic Assist, senses high impact braking and assists with braking maneuvers

Driver Shift Control

Engine, 3.6L V6 VVT (260 HP [193.9 kW] @ 6500 rpm, 252 lb.-ft. [340.2 N-m] @ 2800 rpm)

Engine, 4.6L Northstar V8 VVT, SFI variable valve timing, Northstar (320 HP [238.6 kW] @ 6400 rpm, 315 lb.-ft. [425.3 N-m] @ 4400 rpm)

Limited Slip Differential

Performance Cooling Package, includes P/S cooler, mechanical engine driven fan and 2-80 watt pusher electric fans

Premium Steering Gear, ZF

StabiliTrak

Seating
Front, bucket Nuance Leather Seating Surfaces
Front, bucket Tuscany Leather Seats

Colours, Light Gray1, Ebony1, Light Cashmere2
1 - Light Gray or Ebony Interiors include dark eucalyptus wood trim
2 - Light Cashmere interior includes medium eucalyptus wood trim

Exterior Colours
Blue Chip
Red Line
Black Raven
Silver Smoke
Sand Storm
Moonstone
Light Platinum
Silver Green Metallic
White Lightning

Dimensions
Wheelbase 116.40 (2957)
Overall length 196.30 (4986)
Body width 72.60 (1844)
Overall height 57.60 (1463)
Front track width 61.80 (1570)
Rear track width 62.30 (1582)
Head room, front 38.70 (983)
Head room, rear 37.90 (963)
Shoulder room, front 58.60 (1488)
Shoulder room, rear 57.40 (1458)
Hip room, front 54.60 (1387)
Hip room, rear 55.60 (1412)
Leg room, front 42.60 (1082)
Leg room, rear 38.30 (973)

cusdaddy

Very nice! I think they did a great job... Should be a big hit for Cadillac..

The optional 5.1 sound system is sick.. 15 speakers!!

gavriil

This thing looks great! The interior is stunning! Bob why could this not have happened 5 years ago?

gavriil

I just remembered that there will be a V-Series version of this. I cant even imagine how cool that will be! Wow...this brand has now officialy turned the corner. It's all up from here...

Python2121

car is beautiful. i saw some old spy pics and it looked like crap, this looks awsome, interior is awsome, they really did a great job

Maximized

The only thing I can complain about are the seats. Give me a little bolstering or make sport seats optional. BMW does this, so logically Cadillac should follow.

heyitsme

Pretty nice, would like to see a black interior with alum package.

Loseit

iTrader: (1)

Umm, why does the back wheel look smaller that the front? I know it aint so, but it doesn't look right.

phil2

Real nice job !!!!

gavriil

I am guessing we'll see that with the V-Series.

gavriil

It looks like the rear suspension sits lower than the front. Maybe that's why.

charliemike

I hope the V-Series of this car doesn't have the axle hop problem the CTS-V does ... I'd love to see this car smoke BMWs and Audis ... Nice job Cadillac!

TypeSAddict

Anyone else catch the intellibeam system? Automatic control of the high/low beam transition.....COOL!

SpeedyV6

I'm guessing both of these engine will have a redline ~ 7000 rpm. It's surprising to see that the V6's torque peaks early at 2800 rpm & yet it's power peaks at 6500 rpm! That is one broad, flat torque curve.

gavriil

True about the hop. That's what was responsible for most journalists not been able to break into the 4s for the 0-60 run. Pathetic. I hope they fix it next year already.

gavriil

True that!

Sarlacc

That cars looks very nice, and the interior is a step up and also nice, but i dont think its any kind of mindblowing interior, still simple, easy, the new tl still has it beat.

a V-series with manual tranny would be sick, what would that be an m5 fighter?

whats up with the CTS-V axle hop thing? there a link for that?

heyitsme

Unfortunately thats the only prob I see also, its a nice cadillac, but it really doesn't spark any excitement and I think thats what it needed with the new rl, gs, and m45 coming.

1SICKLEX

I'm sorry but that is a step back for Caddy. The last 2 gens of the STS were good looking cars and the interior was awesome. This leaves my head scratching. The CTS looks cheap, this looks cheaper. Where is the luxury stance?

It masks it's size well. But no way I'd take this over any Benz, BMW or Lexus. Or Audi.

thai

imo, modern cadillac got to be one of the ugliest car brand ever, but i guess they are aiming for their targeted market/audience - people who dont like curves.

all current cadillac and that one spied pic baby mercedes maclaren pic send chillz up my spine everytime looking at their pictures. they are just so hard on my eyes. IMO

gavriil

No. A 760i fighter for $30-$40K less.

Many journalists during reviews of the CTSV complained of rear axle hop, hence the low 5s for the 60 instead of the mid 4s claimed by Cadillac.

gavriil

You're kidding right?

1SICKLEX

SOrry Gav, I am not feeling this at all. This is the crap Bob Lutz was talking about. I guess he could not save this one either.

Collective27

Looks like we got a new sound system to top the TL's.

Maximized

Are you blind? The interior of the new STS is greatly improved over the previous gen. From the two pics shown, that interior design is on par with Lexus and Infiniti. The actual quality of the interior is another thing though.

TypeSAddict

*duck*

1SICKLEX

I don't think it comes close to the ES 330 let alone the GS or LS. It's nice but I think the previous gens looks better.

I am sure the V series will look better but any car with a drop, bigger wheels and a kit looks better.

titan

This is a great car for Cadillac. They won't have a problem selling, and the V series will be something serious. I think the softened edges work well here, and I definitely like the interior better than the CTS's. Having driven one, I'm VERY impressed by the XLR, and Caddy finally showed some balls by charging what they ask for that thing. I just hope they take that no-excuses approach to the DTS (Deville) successor and build something serious to comptete with the S-Class,7-Series,Q45,LS430, and A8. Perhaps that V12 rumor will materialize also...

titan

I disagree. Caddy is postioning this car to compete with the A6,E-Class,5-Series,M45,Gs, etc. A V-series version would compete with the M5 IMO.

gavriil

Well, size-wise the STS competes with the 7 series, S Class and the CTS competes with the 5 series, E Class. Price-wise though, it's what you said.

gavriil

True that. I am happy they are not discounting heavily on the MSRPs.

Crazy Bimmer

Im not feeling it

titan

Sure, size wise, it's a bit larger; but not that much larger. I think BMW made a mistake by not growing the 5-Series a lil bit. The 3-Series is supposed to grow a little bit, now that the 1 is coming to the U.S. and will be the new smallest offering under that brand. The A6 grew a bit in size, though the latested E-Class kept it's length (though the wheel-base grew a bit)... now I've read that the next S-Class will grow back to the size equivilant to the one before this current mode! So, in truth, I don't think that the STS will look out of place in that price class once we see more of the new GS's and the new M cars from Infiniti coming out later this year... very quickly, everyone will notice that the E-Class and the 5-Series are the smallest and most expensive in that price range. Caddy's got a new flagship sedan in the works that will round out their lineup; I just don't hope the screw it up.

gavriil

The new 2005 Cadillac STS is seen in the heart of New York's Financial District, and under the shadow of the New York Stock Exchange Friday, April 2, 2004. The 2005 Cadillac STS is set to make its world wide introduction at the New York Auto Show April 6, 2004. (AP Photo/photo released by General Motors, Joe Polimeni).

Source: Yahoo News

SpeedyV6

To me, the car looks slightly cheaper and more downmarket than the current STS. I still like the overall look, especially the exterior. The interior, which looks like it was designed by someone using a T-square, seems a little cheap to me. It kind of reminds me of those old 1980's Cadillacs,