BMW, Daimler, Volkswagen: Car Cartel Scandel News and Discussion Thread
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BMW, Daimler, Volkswagen: Car Cartel Scandel News and Discussion Thread
Started following the Dieselgate story on another forum way back in Sept. 2015, when it first broke.... Picking it up again here with this latest installment....
Lesson #1: When on the defensive, don’t be aggressive.
Lesson #1: When on the defensive, don’t be aggressive.
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Rut-ro. Rut. F**king. Ro.
Germany’s high-end carmakers face a potentially destructive new scandal after European antitrust authorities said on Saturday that they were looking into allegations that Volkswagen, Daimler and BMW colluded illegally to hold down the prices of crucial technology, including emissions equipment.
If proven, the allegations threaten to further damage the country’s reputation for engineering excellence. That reputation has already been badly tarnished by Volkswagen
’s admission that it illegally installed software in its diesel-powered cars to evade standards for reducing smog. The emissions scandal, which came to light nearly two years ago, may now be spreading to rivals.
Growing awareness of the harmful effects of diesel fumes has prompted European cities to consider bans of diesel cars and has led consumers to reject cars with diesel engines, a largely German innovation that traditionally accounted for half the market.
The backlash could take on a new, far broader dimension if it turns out that the excess emissions were the result of illegal collusion by a de facto cartel. The investigation could also lead to billions of euros in fines.
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German Carmakers Face Potential New Scandal Over Antitrust Issues
Germany’s high-end carmakers face a potentially destructive new scandal after European antitrust authorities said on Saturday that they were looking into allegations that Volkswagen, Daimler and BMW colluded illegally to hold down the prices of crucial technology, including emissions equipment.
If proven, the allegations threaten to further damage the country’s reputation for engineering excellence. That reputation has already been badly tarnished by Volkswagen
’s admission that it illegally installed software in its diesel-powered cars to evade standards for reducing smog. The emissions scandal, which came to light nearly two years ago, may now be spreading to rivals.
Growing awareness of the harmful effects of diesel fumes has prompted European cities to consider bans of diesel cars and has led consumers to reject cars with diesel engines, a largely German innovation that traditionally accounted for half the market.
The backlash could take on a new, far broader dimension if it turns out that the excess emissions were the result of illegal collusion by a de facto cartel. The investigation could also lead to billions of euros in fines.
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This is pretty incredible but also not entirely surprising. Japanese companies have sweet government deals that prevent them from failing, Korean companies intermingle for co-existance, American manufacturers get big bailouts from the government, and now this. The thing that is staggering is that it's been 20+ years and European regulators took this long to realize fully it.
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I feel the need...
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Azine Jabroni
Looks like BMW is denying its involvement. While that does not mean they weren't involved, it does kind of point out how flimsy the Spiegel's claim is. The fact is, most of these car brands are owned by VW and they cannot collude with themselves.
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SUITE! Chipper Porsches...?!??
I can get a 911 GT2 RS for $34.50 now?!?
I can get a 911 GT2 RS for $34.50 now?!?
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