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Old 09-13-2003, 08:22 AM
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the cell shown in the mini-site is an AT&T Nokia
Old 09-13-2003, 12:12 PM
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The Nokia 6600 will be out late Q4 and is the phone to get!
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Originally posted by EmuMessenger
The Nokia 6600 will be out late Q4 and is the phone to get!
Wow, that is a serious phone! It's going to be tough not switch from Sprint.
Old 09-13-2003, 12:33 PM
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Sprint and Verizon are gonna start wondering why they are losing customers..

I can see it now, Acura TL Selling like crazy and Sprint going out of business,
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Originally posted by VtecMW
Wow, that is a serious phone! It's going to be tough not switch from Sprint.
Don't know if it is true, but there is some buzz stating the Nokia 6600 will be able to preview MS Word and Excel documents.
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Originally posted by EmuMessenger
The Nokia 6600 will be out late Q4 and is the phone to get!
The 6600 is the mother of all phones right now. It is almost the perfect phone. Just needs the 850 mhz band for the states.

Yes, it is a smart phone, running Symbian 7.0 OS, so it should be able to view word/excel documents. Also, there is tons of software support for smartphones. There is a software that will allow your nokia camera phone function as a webcam, updating at a specified time interval.
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I like the look of the P800 and the new Nokia looks very similar to the new Siemens SX1!

The New SX1 is the best!

http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/Feb2003/4930.htm
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The numeric pad on the Siemens is AWFUL!

No one in the market can touch Nokia's menu system.
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All of the Bluetooth phones listed by Justin that work with the new TL are GSM.

Does anyone know of a Bluetooth TDMA phone or even better, a Bluetooth dual-band (TDMA/GSM) phone?

Seems like I've got to move to GSM to take advantage of the TL's Bluetooth capabilities.
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Originally posted by TColl03
All of the Bluetooth phones listed by Justin that work with the new TL are GSM.

Does anyone know of a Bluetooth TDMA phone or even better, a Bluetooth dual-band (TDMA/GSM) phone?

Seems like I've got to move to GSM to take advantage of the TL's Bluetooth capabilities.
Keep an eye on the Sony Ericsson T608 for Sprint. It's set to release any day now.
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I believe the Sony Ericsson T608 is CDMA. I'm looking for a TDMA Bluetooth phone.

I've searched and searched...
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Originally posted by TColl03
I believe the Sony Ericsson T608 is CDMA. I'm looking for a TDMA Bluetooth phone.

I've searched and searched...
Some GSM carriers use TDMA. If you're with AT&T, T-Mobile or Cingular you should be okay.
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VtecMW,

Sorry for being so thick, but I'm confused by your post.

AT&T uses GSM and TDMA. My current AT&T service is TDMA. I'm looking for a Bluetooth TDMA phone so that I don't have to change to GSM.

The Sony Ericsson T608 is a Bluetooth CDMA phone. How does that help me?

Thanks for your patience!
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Originally posted by TColl03
VtecMW,

Sorry for being so thick, but I'm confused by your post.

AT&T uses GSM and TDMA. My current AT&T service is TDMA. I'm looking for a Bluetooth TDMA phone so that I don't have to change to GSM.

The Sony Ericsson T608 is a Bluetooth CDMA phone. How does that help me?

Thanks for your patience!
Oh, okay. You have a preference for TDMA. That's the part I had confused.

I also thought you were looking for a Bluetooth phone for the Sprint network.
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Originally posted by TColl03
AT&T uses GSM and TDMA. My current AT&T service is TDMA. I'm looking for a Bluetooth TDMA phone so that I don't have to change to GSM.
fwiw, it took me four twenty-plus minute calls to at&t to switch from tdma to gsm last friday. they're two entirely seperate divisions and it seems they have no way of communicating with each other. unbelievably bad.

roll on number portability so i can switch to another equally bad carrier....

-ferg
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2k4tl - I'm with you on AT&T service. You're on hold forever and no one helps, but they've sure gotten trained to be empathetic to your problems. Lots of "I'm sorrys" but light on the knowledgeable personnel.

How's GSM? Did you switch because you're getting a new TL and want Bluetooth?g
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off topic

Originally posted by TColl03
2k4tl - I'm with you on AT&T service. You're on hold forever and no one helps, but they've sure gotten trained to be empathetic to your problems. Lots of "I'm sorrys" but light on the knowledgeable personnel.
Actually the funniest thing is the ATT 'National Business Account' customer reps, who I deal with cos I get a miniscule discount for signing up through my company. They are the rudest people I've encountered on the other end of a phone since I used to have satellite with Dish Network! YMMV

Originally posted by TColl03
How's GSM? Did you switch because you're getting a new TL and want Bluetooth?g
Funny you should ask, but that's exactly what I did.

GSM is certainly better than either TDMA or CDMA, although it's not the night-and-day difference one might expect. At least it means you can use equipment with a decent global standard and product development investment. *DMA are a joke, imho.

Two comments on other issues raised in this thread:
- will you get bluetooth combined with TDMA and GSM on one phone?
not particularly likely. GSM/TDMA combo phones are rare and don't sell well.
- Nokia versus the others.
For years Nokia had the best UI/menus in the business. Motorola was at the other extreme (my particular favourite was that it took six key presses to read a text message you'd just received). However, in the last two years Nokia has focussed much more on the handsets, particularly on games and distinctive (read: weird) design. Meanwhile, most of the industry is focussing on cameras, whether anyone over the age of 15 (the target market) wants them or not. This means that previously marginal manufacturers like SonyEricsson are now in a much stronger position relative to the rest. Motorola has a lifeline here, as they have a lot of Bluetooth offerings, albeit still with a lousy UI.
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Originally posted by VtecMW
Oh, okay. You have a preference for TDMA. That's the part I had confused.

I also thought you were looking for a Bluetooth phone for the Sprint network.
Well our Cingular in Kansas is TDMA only, they haven't changed to GSM yet.. Go WONDER
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You dont need GSM to get a Bluetooth Phone, Isn't there a TDMA equivalent of the SE T610?
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Re: off topic

Originally posted by 2k4tl
Actually the funniest thing is the ATT 'National Business Account' customer reps, who I deal with cos I get a miniscule discount for signing up through my company. They are the rudest people I've encountered on the other end of a phone since I used to have satellite with Dish Network! YMMV


Funny you should ask, but that's exactly what I did.

GSM is certainly better than either TDMA or CDMA, although it's not the night-and-day difference one might expect. At least it means you can use equipment with a decent global standard and product development investment. *DMA are a joke, imho.

Two comments on other issues raised in this thread:
- will you get bluetooth combined with TDMA and GSM on one phone?
not particularly likely. GSM/TDMA combo phones are rare and don't sell well.
- Nokia versus the others.
For years Nokia had the best UI/menus in the business. Motorola was at the other extreme (my particular favourite was that it took six key presses to read a text message you'd just received). However, in the last two years Nokia has focussed much more on the handsets, particularly on games and distinctive (read: weird) design. Meanwhile, most of the industry is focussing on cameras, whether anyone over the age of 15 (the target market) wants them or not. This means that previously marginal manufacturers like SonyEricsson are now in a much stronger position relative to the rest. Motorola has a lifeline here, as they have a lot of Bluetooth offerings, albeit still with a lousy UI.
They do have GSM/TDMA Phones They are called Gate Phones, but I have not seen any with Bluetooth.
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Nice triple post.
Old 09-16-2003, 09:42 AM
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I got a nokia 3650 in anticipation of a new TL-- and the camera turns out to be an unexpected pleasure. I find I am using it all the time for spur of the moment snapshots that I would never have taken with a separate camera. I email these around to family from the phone.. its a real kick
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Originally posted by 2004TL
You dont need GSM to get a Bluetooth Phone, Isn't there a TDMA equivalent of the SE T610?
I dont think so. Could be wrong though.
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Re: Re: off topic

Originally posted by 2004TL
They do have GSM/TDMA Phones They are called Gate Phones, but I have not seen any with Bluetooth.
I thought they were G.A.I.T. phones, but i dont know what that stands for
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Soopa any word on when the Sony Ericsson tested with the TL will be coming out? I have Sprint and in Dallas so far it has been the best carrier to be with, so I do not want to switch and I want blue tooth for when I get my TL in a year or so.
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