crisco

well they keep increasing each month.

http://www.hondanews.com/Forms/corp/...dia***-***corp(directory)***.ws4d?corp/results(r)_text.html

2514 sold in August, I think the total so far exceeds 11,500.

RadMon

Total sales so far is 11,484 (according to Acura). Sold 2,938 in July which was a lot better than the 1,921 sold in June (I was one of those ;-)

dom

Sorry to get off topic but 49,098 Accord Sales which also outsold the Camry. Thats alot of sales, an Accord record in fact. I guess that fugly rear end is'nt so bad after all. Honda Motor Co broke all sorts of records last month.

-All-time record American Honda sales of 147,253;
-All-time record Honda Division sales of 131,049;
-All-time record American Honda light truck sales of 51,623;
-All-time record Honda Division light truck sales of 46,659;
-All-time record Accord sales of 49,098;
-Industry-leading hybrid sales of 16,297 year-to-date.

Toyota however also had a record month going over 200.00 units for the first time in their history (200,482). I guess the economy is'nt that bad, at least for Japanese Auto Manf

TinkySD

I'm starting to be really happy i chose a car that was a litle more rare.

Count Blah

Yep, I mentioned something to that effect on another thread. For every 100 Accords you see, you might only see 4 or 5 TSX's. (Though even that number seems too high right now.)

dabuda

Well according to the accord and tsx sales thus far there should be 5 accords for every tsx...but you're right i've only seen about 1 TSX for every 20 accords i've seen

LeeLee

Those figures are for this month only. I can't imagine Honda having sold oly 50K Accords this year. That said, 50K divided by 2.5K is indeed 20, so 1 TSX for every 20 Accords.

Count Blah

Yep, and the numbers for all year show about a 25:1 ratio, but that includes three months in which the TSX wasn't sold at all.

pcinoc

I thought there were only building 15 000 2004 TSX - Am I wrong about this figure?

dom

No your not wrong Acura was just lying

They initially said 15,000 units for the remainder of 03. Its now obvious that that number will be surpassed sometime in Oct, so sales will more likely be just under 20,000 units for 03 and they'll sell close to 30K in a full model year (April 04)

Everyone said they would only bring over 15,000 this year. I guess it was just a ploy to boost sales.

pcinoc

Thanks Domn,

I didn't realize they had the bandwidth in production to nearly double their output.

Thanks for the info!

dom

Well they never said 15k a year, they always said 15K for the remainder of 03 if I'm not mistaken, which was only 9 months.

pcinoc

I guess it's all about how you define the "Year" - is it 15K in the actual model year - starts in 03 spring and ends in 04 fall, or the actual 2004 year which ends on December 31 2003.

Oh wait, were those figures provided by marketing people???

larchmont

Actually......

When we were batting this around a while back, a couple of people tried to come up with the exact quotes by Honda/Acura, and from what they found, it seemed that the only thing that was ever said was:

15,000 PER YEAR.

i.e. Per 12-month period.

But it was never stated as a quota or limit anyway, just a target or estimate.

dom

There were a few dealers on these boards saying 15K was the limit. I and many others disagreed with them. Its a mass produced car, not an Enzo. They'll make as many as they can sell plain and simple.

cruiserchuck

Acura never said it was only going to produce 15,000 or 18,000 TSX's. The numbers were sales estimates (which might have been low on purpose to make the actual sales numbers more impressive.)

On the day the TSX was introduced at the Detroit Auto Show, an Acura spokesman was quoted as saying that there was capacity to build additional TSX's at the Sayama, Japan plant, if necessary.

larchmont

Yeah. Either they were BS'ing, or they just misunderstood what it meant. Either is quite possible.

pcinoc

I remember reading about the car just before its introduction - one of the journalist was essentially saying that Acura was trying the TSX concept in the North American market. They were producing a limited number of units for their TSX experiment.
His review was very favorable and he closed his article by calling all buyers to go and buy this car massively to give Acura a strong YES - Yes we want this European Accord in NA.

Based on that and other published information, I have to disagree with the statement made earlier about the TSX being a mass produced car.... at least not for 2004. Once Acura gets the clear message, they will adjust their production.

This limited number or TSX on the market is a good deal for them with the car's popularity - MSRP is what you can expect to pay, not a penny less!

Jason

I actually disagree with your take here domn. Consider this: the only people who really care about the 15,000 production figure are the enthusiasts. And as long as they can obtain one, the enthusiasts are going to buy the car no matter how many TSXs are produced. So by that rationale, it was not a ploy to boost sales.

dom

How is the TSX not a mass produced car? Its made in Japan and leaves the factory either being a Honda Accord or an Acura TSX. They make thousands and thousands of these things for europe and Japan. Lets not just look at the 15 to 20K coming to North America. Heck there's even a Wagon. They can decide at any point to make a few more TSX's as sales are going great. Any way you look at it its a mass produced car, not for Notth America but for the world.

Jason, that 15K number was being used by many a salesman on this board to make it seem as though only 15K would be available for this year when in fact it was only a estimate by Acura. So maybe it was'nt a ploy by Acura but it was definently by its dealers. In fact when I bought my car I was lead to believe that exactly 4000 were coming to Canada and not one more. Now the car polutes the lot at Acura 2000.

LeeLee

Peeps, too much thinking is going into this. I am sure 15K is just a conservative estimate of the market demand. I mean, think about it, would you rather quote 15,000 and sell 20,000 or quote 30,000 and sell 20,000? Honda's line-up isn't without sales flops: see CL, Civic Si.

They are going to adjust TSX production accordingly. Many people still do not know it exists. I think this car is going to generate similar sales volumes as the TL. The Acura brand is looking very strong these days.

A-Q-R

Please be aware that not all Euro Accord are manufactured in Japan itself. There are countries that do local assemblies, thus cost lesser in that country itself, for example, Honda Accord = Acura TSX in Malaysia will cost only RM170K after a 250% tax. Basically, the TSX is overpriced in the US because its a CBU and not a CBD unit.

darth62

I think Acura was being cautious with the TSX projections. After all, the IS300 doens't sell a whole lot more than 20,000. It has sold better than expected, but I'm betting demand will back off after the TL is the new kid on the black. It will still sell briskly, and will command high prices, but I don't think you're going to see Acura moving more than 20,000 to 25,000 a year. They probably do have capacity to produce more - just not a lot more.

BTW, I was at the Acura dealer yesterday. He has one on his lot, and can't keep them in stock. The TSX is still red hot here in Southern Caliornia.