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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 01:56 PM
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Looks good from what I can see so far.

One key note that I should make here though is that this car still IS NOT Acura's true definition of Tier One. The first car representing Acura's definition of Tier One was supposed to be released after the release of the now discontinued NSX replacement in 2010. Most likely the car is going to be the RL. So as nice as this car may be from what we can see, don't mistake it for something it's not supposed to be.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 02:09 PM
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Does anyone feel that sales of this vehicle will canablize sales of the MDX? I haven't read the whole thread so i don't know what their target pricing is, but the MDX is priced so high already, I can't see this guy selling for higher than that. And selling it for lower will hurt RDX sales IMO or MDX sales.

I was wondering the same thing. The only way to avoid canablizing the RDX or MDX is to price it above both.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 02:19 PM
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I'm quite sure it's got the beak. Dammit.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 02:29 PM
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I was wondering the same thing. The only way to avoid canablizing the RDX or MDX is to price it above both.
yeah, in fact the X6 is more expensive of the X5... and uglier.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 02:33 PM
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The beak will be there.....you can see it in some of the spy-shots...you can't hide that monster.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffS
I was wondering the same thing. The only way to avoid canablizing the RDX or MDX is to price it above both.
Not sure if that marketing strategy works. Make it too expensive so no one will buy it and it won't cannibalize the sales of the MDX and RDX?

I think JMT is right that if you need more cargo space or the 3rd row of seats, the MSX isn't going to work.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 02:35 PM
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this design actually fits the description of "keen edge" unlike previous designs.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 02:38 PM
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it looks like the grill goes across the front from light to light. check it out on the side shot. i think its going to be a looker
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 02:39 PM
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and the huge flat sloping front end hints at a grill redesign
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffS
I was wondering the same thing. The only way to avoid canablizing the RDX or MDX is to price it above both.
Alright, let's play devil's advocate here... price it above the MDX puts it above RL territory.

I can't imagine, sorry, now that I think about it, I can imagine Acura pricing this sucker at or above the price of the RL which to me is stupid because the RL should be considered the flagship of the brand, which it unfortunately is not IMHO.

Pricing it at or above the RL will be retarded IMO. They'll either need to push the RL into a higher market to proparly compete with the likes of the LS, 7 series, A8 series, etc... or introduce a new vehicle to take the ranks of the true flagship of Acura instead of focusing on the niche market that this vehicle serves as someone already mentioned.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 02:48 PM
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This thing is gonna price in between the MDX and RDX.

If this is above the MDX....it will only make producing this CUV even worse.

I think the MSX is a product of "it was already in the pipeline...too far along" prior to the fuel price jump and the worldwide economic disaster.

I don't think the current market place is looking for more CUV options.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 02:48 PM
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the beak is there. i can see it here
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
This thing is gonna price in between the MDX and RDX.

If this is above the MDX....it will only make producing this CUV even worse.

I think the MSX is a product of "it was already in the pipeline...too far along" prior to the fuel price jump and the worldwide economic disaster.

I don't think the current market place is looking for more CUV options.

why it has to cost more or less of the MDX? it could cost the same...
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 02:50 PM
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So not caring... Is anyone really excited about this ??
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 02:51 PM
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I doubt this will be priced above an MDX. Acura doesn't make their cars a certain price just because, and certainly not to keep in line with their competitors, as Acura is much more reasonable.
Depending on the actual equipment on this car, there may be a pretty substantial difference between base and tech, and possibly sport.
They can equip it like a base MDX, for 38K which is 3k below the cheapest MDX, and have a tech at 41-42k with Nav, ELS, Keyless entry/start, cooled seats, back up camera, and power tailgate. Sport can be 43-44k with bigger wheels and tires, rheomagnetic suspension, and auto leveling headlights.
Please, please, please pre-wire it for DVD system rather than offer a separate package that is impossible to find.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
So not caring... Is anyone really excited about this ??
A couple people are, but I hear there are a lot more people interested in ambient lighting technology.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 02:57 PM
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AutoWeek: Acura Teases New Car Headed For New York Auto Show

By DALE JEWETT

This article was last updated on: 03/16/09, 14:42 et




Our friends at Acura are bringing a new car to the New York auto show next month.

On Monday, they gave us a little tease--an overhead view of the car, albeit with many details hidden.

What we do see in the shot is two door handles, but cut lines for a rear set of doors--possibly rear hinged?

Last year, Acura executives said they would add a nameplate to the lineup in 2010 in a bid to become a tier-1 brand.

"We will have an all-new vehicle," said Dan Bonawitz, vice president for corporate planning and logistics at American Honda Motor Co.

The executives did not offer any clues to the new vehicle but said it would probably fall into a niche segment.

We're sure to learn more when the New York auto show gets near in mid-April.

To read more visit the AutoWeek New car news, road tests, blogs, pix and expert insight section.

Source: http://www.autoweek.com/article/2009...NEWS/903169989
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
So not caring... Is anyone really excited about this ??
Was anyone really looking for an Acura X6
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 03:07 PM
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Acura believes so.
I still don't agree with the x6 comparisons though.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Spearsoft
Acura believes so.
I still don't agree with the x6 comparisons though.
If you look at the pictures, the side profiles look very very similar to each other.


what the media is saying:

http://www.motorauthority.com/spy-sh...-x6-rival.html

http://blogs.trucktrend.com/6283993/...oad/index.html

and a lot more....

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...ra&btnG=Search
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 03:16 PM
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I do see the similarities, I just think acura's going after the RX market, rather than the x6 market.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Spearsoft
Acura believes so.
I still don't agree with the x6 comparisons though.
Acura believed people would actually like the beak.
Acura believed people would love the new TL
Acura believed people would love a heavier TSX with the same engine.
Acura believed the RSX + turbo 4cyl was a great combo.
Acura believed the RL was a flagship that everyone would want.

Acura has some serious wrong beliefs.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Spearsoft
I do see the similarities, I just think acura's going after the RX market, rather than the x6 market.
then the MDX is going after...?
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Spearsoft
I do see the similarities, I just think acura's going after the RX market, rather than the x6 market.
Acura has always said they've want to go after the tier 1 market, albeit their actual progress doesn't correlate to what they say.

And what's worse is so many different things we hear. I think at one point they wanted the entire brand to go after Aston Martin and Ferrari.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 03:19 PM
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S2000 Driver you didn't waste too much time posting that. autoweek email went out and less than 30 min later you posted it.

what is this Acura's answer to the BMW X6?

http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=821343

We're expecting to see this vehicle revealed at the upcoming New York Auto show. According to sources, look for this new crossover to also introduce Acura's first 6-speed automatic transmission. The engine is expected to be based upon the MDX (or TL's) 3.7L V6.
http://www.vtec.net/news/news-image?...llpaper_05.jpg
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Spearsoft
The design, is already a step forward, even if the rest of the car is hideous.
Let's see what the equipment/performance is on this thing, but I think we have the first T1 acura on our hands here.
Yep! And we all know the interior's gonna be tits!
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
then the MDX is going after...?
Exactly.

The MDX fits in the RX, Highlander, X5, market. This vehicle based on sporty agressive characteristics is pitted to go against the X6 which is a CUV itself. The RX and X5 are SUV's. Damn, I can't believe I'm caught up in that damn nomenclature now. I hate the SUV, CUV terms. To me they are all useless. WAGONS/HATCHS FTMFW!
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 03:22 PM
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http://www.vtec.net/news/news-image?...llpaper_02.jpg

http://www.vtec.net/news/news-image?...llpaper_03.jpg

http://www.vtec.net/news/news-image?...llpaper_04.jpg

maybe somebody that knows what their doing can post the images above

definitely an X6 cross over type
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 03:25 PM
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Guys I am sorry to say but this is going to be priced above the MDX. We were told that it will be a low volume vehicle with a very upscale interior and a leather dash. Keep in mind that the MDX starts at $41,750 and goes up to $49,450 so this new crossover could be priced any where in between. We were not told a price range just that it will be of very high quality.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 03:28 PM
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why didn't the TL look this good?
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by crxb
S2000 Driver you didn't waste too much time posting that. autoweek email went out and less than 30 min later you posted it.

what is this Acura's answer to the BMW X6?

http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=821343

We're expecting to see this vehicle revealed at the upcoming New York Auto show. According to sources, look for this new crossover to also introduce Acura's first 6-speed automatic transmission. The engine is expected to be based upon the MDX (or TL's) 3.7L V6.
http://www.vtec.net/news/news-image?...llpaper_05.jpg
Hi crxb,

I try to be prompt -- I'm sure I'll be criticized by others here for posting this (for who knows what reason) -- but I'm glad others like you appreciate it!

>>>ACURA'S FIRST 6-SPEED AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION!<<<

Oh well, my 2G TL had a 4-speed auto tranny and I lived with it for 10 years, guess I can live with the 5-speed auto tranny on my 4G TL SH-AWD for 10 years, too.

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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 03:33 PM
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I don't think it will be priced obove the MDX. It could be priced in line with it though, because the styling of this thing and the MDX is on opposite sides of the spectrum. No one looking to buy an MDX is gonna take a second look at this CUV, and vice versa.

Then again, if they surprise us with more HP(320-350?) plus the 6spd auto, a higher price might be warranteed
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 03:36 PM
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why didn't the TL look this good?
Where have you been? We missed you!

BTW, that's a revelation, coming from you !
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by vybzkartel
I don't think it will be priced obove the MDX. It could be priced in line with it though, because the styling of this thing and the MDX is on opposite sides of the spectrum. No one looking to buy an MDX is gonna take a second look at this CUV, and vice versa.

Then again, if they surprise us with more HP(320-350?) plus the 6spd auto, a higher price might be warranteed
I think this will cost more than MDX. The MDX cost 40 grand and this things closest competitor will be the Infiniti FX35 which cost about $43K. I think the new Acura crossover will be about 43 or 45K base price and will serve as the new flagship for the lineup. I don't expect 6 speed tranny since this is a niche vehicle.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 03:40 PM
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Where have you been? We missed you!
I've been lol!

1st banned from TOV then banned from Azine
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Spearsoft
I do see the similarities, I just think acura's going after the RX market, rather than the x6 market.
i think acura is in the RX and family SUV market already with the MDX.

by the looks of this, it's clear to me they're going after the X6 and FX with a sportscar-like SUV.

and i'll place my bet on this being priced similar or higher than the base MDX.
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I've been lol!

1st banned from TOV then banned from Azine
No way!!!!
Hope you learned something?
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 04:44 PM
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why didn't the TL look this good?
wait... you have not yet seen the rest of the car... the front, for example
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 04:48 PM
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I don't know where Acura is going after, but, hey!! this thing looks better of the new Lagonda CUV/SUV concept ...
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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as we say in Italy: "Mother of idiots is always pregnant"
As you can see Acura is not alone and is doing well comparing to this shit...



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