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AZuser 10-26-2015 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by Joneill44 (Post 15592756)
I still like the looks of it :shrug: after a grille wrap of course

It's definitely a nice looking car overall. But as JS + BRZ said, the interior is kinda meh... a bit plain looking. Doesn't look any better than what you'd find in a RLX, MDX, etc. A halo car should have a really nice looking interior. :2cents:


And that navi location. :whyme: You never put it under the vents.

SamDoe1 10-26-2015 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by JS + BRZ (Post 15592748)
Road & Track review summed it up very well. Love how it ended.

Yep. "There was a time when you felt a little NSX in your Accord. Now there's too much Accord in your NSX." That's pretty much bang on.


Originally Posted by AZuser (Post 15592811)
And that navi location. :whyme: You never put it under the vents.

Be thankful that it only has one screen.

Majofo 10-26-2015 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by SamDoe1 (Post 15592817)
Be thankful that it only has one screen.

One of the few things they got right

TacoBello 10-26-2015 01:37 PM

New NSX sucks more cawk than all of 3G Ramblings put together. That's a lot of cawk.

TacoBello 10-26-2015 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by Majofo (Post 15592821)
One of the few things they got right

Aren't we due for a MMC by the time this fucking thing shows up? Guess how many screens it'll have then... :bitelip:

Flipster23 10-26-2015 01:42 PM

3 screens.

1 for radio
1 for rear view camera
1 for cawk ratings

TacoBello 10-26-2015 01:46 PM

You forgot:

1 for climate control
1 for VTEC gauge
1 for SH-AWD power vectoring
1 for navi
1 for...

oonowindoo 10-26-2015 01:53 PM

I cant wait for the 8 years old GTR vs. The brand new but 8 years delayed NSX

Regardless what the # says, if the NSX can't beat a 8 years old GTR at 150k, the Nissan should be laughing at Honda.

But somehow i still think the GTR Nismo is going to be faster while being older, heavier, with no battery.

Yumcha 10-26-2015 01:55 PM

Unreal. I waited and waited and waited and waited and bittered and waited and venomed and waited and waited and snarked and waited and waited and waited and bittered s'more and waited and waited and spewed more venom and waited and waited and snarked and waited and waited for these mediocre specs and the fact the NSX is an overweight fat@$$ trying to keep up with the Germans.



Honda: You idiots.

Yumcha 10-26-2015 01:56 PM

Remember folks: Honda hates you.

iforyou 10-26-2015 02:00 PM

There seems to be a lot of negativity here about the new NSX....

Here's my understanding based on all these reviews from C/D, MT, RT, AB, etc:

- The turbocharged V6 does NOT have VTEC
- Turbo lag is virtually non-detectable due to electric motors
- The NSX in quiet and sport mode is, as Honda promised, drives like a everyday's car.
- Things get more interested in Sport Plus mode.
- In Track mode with the Michelin's, the NSX is a beast.
- The optional Conti's are bad for track use but good for everyday's driving
- As predicted, the NSX is not light
- The NSX is fast, but the question is how fast? No one can comment on that unless a proper test and/or comparo is done.
- Steering feel comparable to 911's according to C/D

Subjectively, I thought this new NSX fits the NSX name plate - New Sportcar eXperimental. I can't think of any car in this price range that is quite like the new NSX (whether it's a good or bad thing greatly depends on one's preference). It's just like how the original NSX was twice as expensive as the R32 GTR, but the GTR at that time was actually faster. Was that good or bad?

I think the $150-200k market is now filled with different super cars with different characters. If you have that kind of money to spend on a car, there are a lot of choices available.

oonowindoo 10-26-2015 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by iforyou (Post 15592877)
There seems to be a lot of negativity here about the new NSX....

Here's my understanding based on all these reviews from C/D, MT, RT, AB, etc:

- The turbocharged V6 does NOT have VTEC
- Turbo lag is virtually non-detectable due to electric motors
- The NSX in quiet and sport mode is, as Honda promised, drives like a everyday's car.
- Things get more interested in Sport Plus mode.
- In Track mode with the Michelin's, the NSX is a beast.
- The optional Conti's are bad for track use but good for everyday's driving
- As predicted, the NSX is not light
- The NSX is fast, but the question is how fast? No one can comment on that unless a proper test and/or comparo is done.
- Steering feel comparable to 911's according to C/D

Subjectively, I thought this new NSX fits the NSX name plate - New Sportcar eXperimental. I can't think of any car in this price range that is quite like the new NSX (whether it's a good or bad thing greatly depends on one's preference). It's just like how the original NSX was twice as expensive as the R32 GTR, but the GTR at that time was actually faster. Was that good or bad?

I think the $150-200k market is now filled with different super cars with different characters. If you have that kind of money to spend on a car, there are a lot of choices available.

I thought a lot of people hated the new 911 steering or was it 991?

and

This is the thing, back in the days it was ok. 2016/2017 is A LOT different than early 90s.

and whoever thought the NSX was going to be sub 3000 lbs 10 or 20 pages back.. keep dreaming... I know you are looking :rofl:

ttribe 10-26-2015 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by Yumcha (Post 15592590)
We have specs?!????? :what:

Per the article, 573HP, 476 pound-feet of torque, and 3,803-pound curb weight...

Yeah...remember my post a while back about the NSX possibly being a decent competitor to the 570S (given what we knew then about HP), if they could keep the weight down? Well, turns out they couldn't and it won't. Bummer.

That being said, it sounds like they did make a good car...for about five years ago.

oonowindoo 10-26-2015 02:54 PM

i am actually very surprised about the torque #s given it has turbo and battery.

The car with "similar tech"

918 AWD
Horsepower: 887 HP
Torque: 944 lb-ft

RLX Sport Hybrid with upgraded tires
Horsepower: Infinite
Torque: More than you can count

Majofo 10-26-2015 02:58 PM

Do you even torque vector breh? #maff

oonowindoo 10-26-2015 03:01 PM

Nope. too technical for me. I only need torque in the rear all the time, 100% of the time.


and yes in the rear :D

Majofo 10-26-2015 03:01 PM

The torque is probably pretty flat.. it probably could put down more, but designed to stay flat.

Also.. if Common core math taught me anything, it's:
406 + 2(54) + 1(109) = 476

Joneill44 10-26-2015 03:16 PM

It will be curious to see if the aftermarket world touches this car. With it being really one of the first affordable supercars with this kind of hybrid/battery setup, I wonder what would happen if the power was boosted to 650-700hp

Mizouse 10-26-2015 03:42 PM

Seriously, wtf is the point of all this bickering. Even if this car had everything you want. I doubt any of you would actually have gotten it.

MSZ 10-26-2015 03:49 PM

Like others have said, this is pretty mediocre. I like the styling, but wishes it would performs better.

oonowindoo 10-26-2015 03:50 PM

That is the case for 90% of the posts here in Cartalk.

Talk about cars that are really not relevant to us. So, we just talk...

Yumcha 10-26-2015 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by Mizouse (Post 15593055)
Seriously, wtf is the point of all this bickering. Even if this car had everything you want. I doubt any of you would actually have gotten it.

As a car enthusiast/fan...we critique and praise any "cool" car that comes.

The NSX is SUPPOSED to be cool...given it's heritage and history. Anyhoo...

Majofo 10-26-2015 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by Mizouse (Post 15593055)
Seriously, wtf is the point of all this bickering. Even if this car had everything you want. I doubt any of you would actually have gotten it.

Same could be said about the ladies you discuss.. :bitelip:

Nexx 10-26-2015 04:33 PM

so far so good. i wasnt expecting 1000hp car nor was i excepting 3200lbs car with 3 electric motors. we still havent seen any performance numbers yet so how we not bury this thing until they test it.

oonowindoo 10-26-2015 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by Majofo (Post 15593090)
Same could be said about the ladies you discuss.. :bitelip:

Oh... the burn.....

justnspace 10-26-2015 05:01 PM

when did they release specs?

and are they going to market this thing?


cuz fuck, it looks like i'm already like a week late to know and only because i'm on an enthusiast site....

oonowindoo 10-26-2015 05:20 PM

I think it is still too early to market the NSX... cuz Honda knows it might get delayed again.


When the time comes, if it was up to me, fuck the millions in commercial.

Get 20 production ready cars 2 months prior to the delivery date and just park them all over the city and drive around town is the best way to market it.

Hopefully it will get some customers to their dealership to look at their RLX and TLX :D

That is the whole point because the NSX itself is already sold out for the first year or 2.

ttribe 10-26-2015 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by Mizouse (Post 15593055)
Seriously, wtf is the point of all this bickering. Even if this car had everything you want. I doubt any of you would actually have gotten it.

Will I likely ever end up owning a LaFerrari? No, but I'm an enthusiast, so I like talking about it.

Will I likely ever own a McClaren? No, but I'm an enthusiast, so I like talking about it.

Will I likely ever own an Aston Martin? No, but I'm an enthusiast, so I like talking about it.

Need I go on?

BTW, the real key here is that NO ONE FORCED YOU TO READ THIS THREAD.

Fibonacci 10-26-2015 07:31 PM

The curb weight does not shock me, but it is nonetheless is a bit heavier than I expected.

Until I get to drive one, the mag racer in me says drop the heavy batteries and go for the Type-R RWD only version. Should be interesting to see how the dealers handle the early cue.

oonowindoo 10-26-2015 07:36 PM

without the battery it will become a 400hp-450hp 3500 RWD car...

and it is popular to charge more for less these days, i will not be paying $150-200k for a 400hp car that weighs 3500 lbs.... type R or not.

Fibonacci 10-26-2015 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by oonowindoo (Post 15593316)
without the battery it will become a 400hp-450hp 3500 RWD car...


Apparently you fail in reading comprehension. Without the batteries, the engine alone is 500hp, 406lbs tq. :tomato:

Fibonacci 10-26-2015 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by TacoBello (Post 15592810)
Exactly. I prefer the more "pedestrian" looks of the GTR. Hauls just as much ass without drawing the attention of every single person within viewing distance.

You forget the part about it being an ugly pig. Big diff. :tongue:


Is the NSX worth 50-70k moar for being prettier? :ponder:

kurtatx 10-26-2015 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by ttribe (Post 15593245)
Will I likely ever end up owning a LaFerrari? No, but I'm an enthusiast, so I like talking about it.

Will I likely ever own a McClaren? No, but I'm an enthusiast, so I like talking about it.

Will I likely ever own an Aston Martin? No, but I'm an enthusiast, so I like talking about it.

Need I go on?

BTW, the real key here is that NO ONE FORCED YOU TO READ THIS THREAD.

Good post. In all honesty, I don't think there is any situation in which I could reasonably and conscientiously buy any of these cars, but I love them and love talking about them.

Regarding the NSX, it's fine. It's not a Ferrari-changer like the original, but it's good enough.

oonowindoo 10-26-2015 07:48 PM

i did not fail because i did not even read it :rofl:

Even at 500lbs it is still not enough considering the cars it is going up against.

I would expect either 650hp, 3500lb or 500hp 3000 lbs to be worth of the Type R name.

oonowindoo 10-26-2015 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by Fibonacci (Post 15593330)
You forget the part about it being an ugly pig. Big diff. :tongue:


Is the NSX worth 50-70k moar for being prettier? :ponder:

As the way it sits, i personally would take the ugly GTR any day.

oonowindoo 10-26-2015 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by kurtatx (Post 15593332)
Good post. In all honesty, I don't think there is any situation in which I could reasonably and conscientiously buy any of these cars, but I love them and love talking about them.

Regarding the NSX, it's fine. It's not a Ferrari-changer like the original, but it's good enough.

That is the problem. The Acura we used to love was never about good enough. When they make a sports car like s2000/NSX, they will make sure it is unique and not following what has been done already.

Fibonacci 10-26-2015 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by MSZ (Post 15593072)
Like others have said, this is pretty mediocre. I like the styling, but wishes it would performs better.

Performance is better than 99.9% of existing road cars.

95% of the performance of a 918 for 1/6th the price, what is not to like?

I might even argue that it looks better than a 918.

Fibonacci 10-26-2015 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by oonowindoo (Post 15593335)
As the way it sits, i personally would take the ugly GTR any day.

I've driven a GTR but I haven't driven an NSX so I'll reserve judgement.

But IMO the GTR is still a fast but fugly pig. :2cents:

Fibonacci 10-26-2015 08:01 PM

BTW, I'm just here for the "vapor" jokes... :whistle:

ttribe 10-26-2015 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by Fibonacci (Post 15593340)
Performance is better than 99.9% of existing road cars.

95% of the performance of a 918 for 1/6th the price, what is not to like?

I might even argue that it looks better than a 918.

Now, that's just crazy-talk.


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