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krio 11-24-2008 03:53 PM

Acura NSX 2010 by leftlane....

http://www.leftlanenews.com/acura-nsx.html

synth19 11-24-2008 04:11 PM

What an insult to the legacy of the NSX. I like it, but the design is NOT NSX worthy. :thumbsdow

Moog-Type-S 11-24-2008 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by krio (Post 10220694)
Acura NSX 2010 by leftlane....

http://www.leftlanenews.com/acura-nsx.html

:pofl:
Oh please!!!!! Noooooooo!!!!!

fsttyms1 11-24-2008 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by krio (Post 10214772)
The GT-R may be a great supercar, but say that is inspired....
It looks menacing but not inspired at all.
the same thing for the last Ferraris, the same owner Montezemolo said we look for the best performance/aerodynamical issues than to pure beautiful design as before...

I didnt say GT-R i said GT. ie Aston martin, 599, Maserati

Trackruner228 11-24-2008 08:50 PM

I miss be the minority because I like it. :shrug:

knight rider 11-24-2008 09:20 PM

Those renderings are derived from the test mule. We've seen those pictures / vids before. Let's just hope that the test mule is just that otherwise we may have to get over it and let the new body style grow on us over the years. I mean, look at the new GT-R. A lot of us hated that car before it came out.

ludachrisvt 11-24-2008 10:55 PM


Originally Posted by knight rider (Post 10221817)
Those renderings are derived from the test mule. We've seen those pictures / vids before. Let's just hope that the test mule is just that otherwise we may have to get over it and let the new body style grow on us over the years. I mean, look at the new GT-R. A lot of us hated that car before it came out.

The testmule was a chopped up s2000. What has been running around the tracks and caught on video and spy pics is something that is close to a production vehicle.

krio 11-25-2008 03:19 AM


Originally Posted by fsttyms1 (Post 10221294)
I didnt say GT-R i said GT. ie Aston martin, 599, Maserati

right. sorry.

PG2G 11-25-2008 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by Trackruner228 (Post 10221674)
I miss be the minority because I like it. :shrug:

Me too, I'm not sure I get what folks are complaining about...

fsttyms1 11-25-2008 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by ludachrisvt (Post 10222219)
The testmule was a chopped up s2000. What has been running around the tracks and caught on video and spy pics is something that is close to a production vehicle.

The latest one wasnt a s2k.

JediMindTricks 11-25-2008 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by krio (Post 10220694)
Acura NSX 2010 by leftlane....

http://www.leftlanenews.com/acura-nsx.html

gosh...i dunno what to say.

i like the design a lot...if it was the honda prelude or an acura coupe.

but not if it's the NSX.

msl82 11-25-2008 10:10 AM

They better make NSX right this time. Which means that it should not be so overpriced for its performance. It was $79,000 sports car with 290 HP. barely over 300 HP for latter models.

In these days, I think Corvette is the king of best value sport car. Corvette has it all, its super super fast, very good handling (Yes, It has ancient suspension set up but it still gets the job done right?), and looks dang GOOD!!

My only dispare of Corvette is its interior design, it just look so plain compared to other sports cars.

Not to mention Nissan GT-R with its price range of $70,000 to compete with....

Its going to be interesting how the new NSX will do against stong competition these days....

JediMindTricks 11-25-2008 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by msl82 (Post 10223198)
They better make NSX right this time. Which means that it should not be so overpriced for its performance. It was $79,000 sports car with 290 HP. barely over 300 HP for latter models.

In these days, I think Corvette is the king of best value sport car. Corvette has it all, its super super fast, very good handling (Yes, It has ancient suspension set up but it still gets the job done right?), and looks dang GOOD!!

My only dispare of Corvette is its interior design, it just look so plain compared to other sports cars.

Not to mention Nissan GT-R with its price range of $70,000 to compete with....

Its going to be interesting how the new NSX will do against stong competition these days....

did anyone watch last week's episode of "the office" when michael finds out that toby's back and his response is:

"NOOOOOOOOO!! NO! NO! GOD! NOOO!"

titan 11-25-2008 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by JediMindTricks (Post 10223285)
did anyone watch last week's episode of "the office" when michael finds out that toby's back and his response is:

"NOOOOOOOOO!! NO! NO! GOD! NOOO!"

That episode was HILARIOUS.

ThermonMermon 11-25-2008 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by msl82 (Post 10223198)
They better make NSX right this time. Which means that it should not be so overpriced for its performance. It was $79,000 sports car with 290 HP. barely over 300 HP for latter models.

In these days, I think Corvette is the king of best value sport car. Corvette has it all, its super super fast, very good handling (Yes, It has ancient suspension set up but it still gets the job done right?), and looks dang GOOD!!

My only dispare of Corvette is its interior design, it just look so plain compared to other sports cars.

Not to mention Nissan GT-R with its price range of $70,000 to compete with....

Its going to be interesting how the new NSX will do against stong competition these days....

yes, 80k 10+ years ago for a 290 HP car is not a good deal by any means. granted, the car has much more to offer than HP, but still...

tegkid 11-25-2008 10:46 AM

^^^i did
but thats not how i feel after seeing the latest designs

i think it looks pretty good.
way too agressive to be the new cl or integra...

F-C 11-25-2008 10:53 AM

Front end needs major work.

Motohip 11-25-2008 10:54 AM

I don't see any new drawing on page 4.

JediMindTricks 11-25-2008 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by titan (Post 10223299)
That episode was HILARIOUS.

yea...

that's how i feel when i see that msl is back.

jdmRL 11-25-2008 12:07 PM

the front grill needs to go

Moog-Type-S 11-25-2008 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by JediMindTricks (Post 10223285)
did anyone watch last week's episode of "the office" when michael finds out that toby's back and his response is:

"NOOOOOOOOO!! NO! NO! GOD! NOOO!"

:spit:

gocubsgo55 11-27-2008 11:52 AM

right drivetrain, wrong shape.

krio 12-17-2008 07:59 AM

Acura NSX cancealed
 
end of the NSX.I know there is a forumn about the NSX, but I'm too leazy...

TOKYO, Japan, December 17, 2008 - The abrupt change involving the global automobile industry from mid-September of this year that was triggered by the financial crisis, forced all the automakers to change various plans over a very short period of time. The situation is worsening day by day and is showing no sign of recovery.

Despite this severe business environment, Honda has been able to introduce its advanced environmental technologies to its customers in the form of products such as the FCX Clarity fuel cell vehicle and the all-new Insight hybrid vehicle.

Facing an urgent need to address the sharp sales downturn, production adjustments have been made starting from the latter half of this year in North America, Europe, and Japan to maintain appropriate inventory levels. Honda has further decided to make an additional production adjustment of 54,000 units of automobiles in Japan during the current fiscal year.

【Revised forecast for consolidated financial results for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2009】

* ・At the board of directors meeting held today, Honda resolved to amend the forecast of consolidated financial results for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2009, which was last announced October 28, 2008.
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* ・New forecasts are: net sales and other operating revenue; JPY 10,400 billion (-13.4% from previous fiscal year), operating income; JPY 180 billion (-81.1%), income before income taxes; JPY 190 billion (-78.8%), equity in income of affiliates; JPY 125 billion (+5.1%), net income; JPY 185 billion (-69.2%), basic net income per common share; JPY 101.95 (-69.2%).
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* ・The forecast for the fiscal third quarter dividend is 11 yen per share. The payment of the year-end dividend per share of common stock has not been decided yet. The company will propose the year-end dividend upon consideration of its consolidated financial results for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2009 and forecasts for consolidated financial results for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2010.
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* ・Unit sales forecasts are: motorcycles; 10.3 million units (+10.5%), automobiles; 3.65 million units (-7%), power products; 5.185 million units (-14.4%).

【Estimated CY2008 Worldwide Sales】
Motorcycles: 15.12 million units (up 12 % from 2007)
Automobiles:

3.77 million units (100% of 2007)
Power Products: 5.67 million units (down 7% from 2007)

【Motorcycle】
Even in the growing motorcycle markets in emerging countries in Asia and South America, overall motorcycle sales experienced a slowdown in the latter half of the year due to the impact of the credit crunch.

{Asia Oceania - Motorcycle}

* ・2008 sales forecast: 11.042 million units (up 15% from 2007)

{South America - Motorcycle}

* ・2008 sales forecast: 1.732 million units (up 13% from 2007)

【Automobile】
The situation is worsening every day in all regions.

{U.S. - Automobile}

* ・The overall market is declining since the latter half of the year due to the impact of the credit crunch
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* ・2008 sales forecast: 1.43 million units (down 8% from 2007)

{South America - Automobile}

* ・The financial situation is rapidly worsening since the latter half of the year.
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* ・2008 sales forecast: 157,000 units (up 34% from 2007)

{Europe - Automobile}

* ・The financial crisis has accelerated involving growing markets in Eastern Europe and Russia.
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* ・2008 sales forecast: 380,000 units (up 1% from 2007)

{Asia - Automobile}

* ・Strong sales of the all-new City are contributing positively to overall sales, however, we have begun to see the impact of the global economic crisis in this region as well.
*
* ・2008 sales forecast: 380,000 units (up 1% from 2007)

{China - Automobile}

* ・2008 sales forecast: 478,000 units (up 12% from 2007)

{Japan - Automobile}

* ・2008 sales forecast: 622,000 units (100% of 2007)

【Power Product】

* ・2008 sales forecast: 5.672 million units (down 7% from 2007)

Direction and challenges Honda must undertake

* ・The mid- to long-term challenges Honda must undertake to succeed in this severe economic environment and continue growing have not fundamentally changed;
o 1)Advancement of our global production system and capabilities with a central focus on Japan due to its leader function
o 2)Creation of fuel efficient products that reduce our environmental footprint, which Honda has been continuously pursuing since the establishment of the company
o 3)Further advancement of our motorcycle business, which is the origin of Honda
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* ・Maintaining a long-term viewpoint, Honda undertakes these challenges in preparation for future growth.
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* ・At the same time, new actions must be undertaken. In order to minimize the impact of recent changes in the business environment on the company’s earnings and to focus fixed company resources on necessary areas, all investments and development projects will be reassessed from scratch and prioritized.
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* ・Toward this end, Honda will closely monitor the marketplace and then carefully determine what actions need to be taken. Once decisions are made, Honda will take quick action as the company realizes the situation is very urgent and a slight delay in making management decisions could be critical.
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* ・Based on this understanding of the situation, bonuses for directors, corporate auditors and operating officers will be reassessed based on the business results of the current fiscal year ending March 31, 2009. In addition, monthly remuneration of directors, corporate auditors and operating officers will be cut by 10% for all directors starting January 2009.

Actions to be undertaken
Honda will reassess the priorities of all investment/development projects.

{ Reassess new production facilities and capacity expansions}

* ・New auto plant in Yorii: The start of operations, initially scheduled for 2010, will be delayed more than one year.
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* ・New engine plant in Ogawa: Starting July 2009 as originally planned, the production will begin in stages. The plant will initially be responsible for casting and machining processes and supply engine components to auto plants in Japan and regions outside of Japan.
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* ・New mini-vehicle production plant at Yachiyo Industry’s Yokkaichi Factory: The start of full-scale operation, initially scheduled for 2010, will be delayed a little more than a year.
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* ・Regions outside of Japan: Expansion of automobile production capacity in some countries including India, initially scheduled for 2010, and Turkey, initially scheduled for mid- 2009, will be delayed considering the current market situations.
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* ・While making global production adjustments, Honda will make a thorough effort to mature its flexible production system to establish a company structure which enables Honda to get through anticipated future changes with minimal impact.
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* ・Production of the Stream will be transferred from Suzuka Factory to Saitama Factory starting January 2009.
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* ・Production of the U.S. and Canada version of the Honda Fit will also start in Saitama Factory from spring in 2009 in addition to production in Suzuka Factory.

{ Sales}

* ・In Japan, where demand has shifted toward small-sized vehicles including mini-vehicles, Honda will strengthen its Honda Cars sales network. Meanwhile, considering the recent changes in the business environment, Honda decided to withdraw its prior plan to introduce the Acura brand in the Japanese market around 2010.

{ R&D }

* ・The development of the NSX successor model equipped with V10 engine will be cancelled. (emphasis added)
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* ・The start of operations at the new R&D Center in Sakura, which was scheduled to become fully operational in 2010, will be delayed.
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* ・Honda has decided to withdraw from all Formula One activities, making 2008 the last season of participation.
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* ・While reassessing investment priorities, Honda will concentrate its investments on initiatives which enable Honda to survive in the rapidly changing world and achieve continuous future growth.


Further strengthening advanced environmental technologies while maintaining a long-term viewpoint

* ・In order for Honda to sustain its business during the next 100 years of the automotive industry, it is critical for the company to further strengthen its ability to continue advancing environmental technologies and to apply them to creative and attractive products.
*
* ・Since the establishment of the company, Honda has been consistently pursuing advanced environmental technologies in every business area. More than ever, Honda will concentrate its resources on the development of fuel-efficient products.
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* ・The keys to achieve this goal are advancements of electromotive technologies including hybrid models as well as motorcycles and small cars.
*
* ・By concentrating the focus of its technology and product development efforts largely into these two areas, Honda will strive to achieve a breakthrough under the difficult business environment.

【Hybrid models】

* ・Honda recognizes hybrid technologies as the most realistic path for CO2 reduction at this moment.
*
* ・To effectively utilize fixed resources, Honda believes it is most important to focus all of our energy on hybrids and achieve mass market penetration as soon as possible.

{All-new Insight}

* ・The all-new Insight, which will make its world debut in Detroit early next year and achieve both excellent fuel economy and an attractive price has been a pioneer model toward mass market penetration for hybrid vehicles.
*
* ・It will offer convincing economic benefits for customers through its excellent fuel economy. At the same time, the all-new Insight will also enable drivers to feel the joy of driving through its zippy, yet light and comfortable driving performance.
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* ・Insight sales are scheduled to begin in spring 2009. As for the price, which is the key factor for mass market penetration, Honda is targeting to offer a starting price below 2 million yen in Japan.
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* ・The all-new sporty hybrid vehicle based on the CR-Z will go on sale by the end of 2010. This vehicle is being developed to become a model which offers new value of the “joy of driving” which only a hybrid vehicle can offer.
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* ・Honda will enhance its hybrid lineup while considering the possibility of applying hybrid technology to medium to large-size vehicles.

{Production}

* ・Honda will also strengthen its manufacturing system to support sales of hybrid models. As for the hybrid motor, which is one of the key components of a hybrid system, production on a new assembly line added to the Suzuka Factory just began last month (November 2008).
*
* ・Combined with the 70,000-unit capacity of the first line, total motor production capacity will be increased to 250,000 units annually. Honda will establish a production system and the capabilities to be prepared for a further increase in demand for hybrid models.

【Small car model】

* ・Along with hybrid models, Honda will focus on and accelerate product development of small cars for which an increase in global demand is expected.
*
* ・To minimize the impact of raw material prices, which fluctuate based on various external factors, Honda will build products with a minimal reliance on expensive materials, which will enable Honda to offer its customers products with stable cost competitiveness.
*
* ・In order to fulfill strong demand from customers, especially in newly emerging countries where motorization continues to advance, Honda is making progress in the development of a new small car which will be positioned in the class below Fit with a goal to introduce it to the market in two to three years.
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* ・To further enhance its product strengths in the small-size vehicle segment, Honda will make progress in the development of small-size diesel engines.
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* ・To concentrate its resources on hybrid models and small cars, the introduction of medium to large-size diesel models in the U.S. and Japan will be delayed.

Motorcycles will support Honda in the difficult business environment

* ・Honda's toughness in meeting changes in the business environment comes from the global business foundation built around the three axes of motorcycles, automobiles and power products.
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* ・History shows that motorcycles remain strong in a difficult market environment and have always supported Honda in difficult times. People showed renewed interest in the value of motorcycles which consume less fuel for commuting purposes as well as for their easy-to-own/easy-to-use efficiency.
*
* ・In the newly emerging countries in regions such as Asia and South America where motorcycles are being used for everyday transportation, long-term and steady market growth is expected despite some external factors such as changes in economic conditions.

{All-new Wave 100}

* ・Honda is planning to install PGM-FI to all motorcycle models sold in Thailand by the end of 2009. The most important model for this FI strategy, Wave 100, will undergo a full model change in January 2009.
*
* ・Wave 100 series, which is based on the Cub and thus can be called the "Asian Cub," has been a key model for Honda with annual sales of approximately 2.6 million units in seven countries mostly in the ASEAN region. With the all-new Wave 100, fuel economy was further improved. Moreover, by unifying product specifications as a strategy to pursue smooth introduction to multiple production bases, it was possible to achieve improved efficiency during the development and startup of production as well as significant cost reduction. After the introduction in Thailand, the all-new Wave 100 will be introduced sequentially to other ASEAN nations.

{Electric motorcycle}

* ・Honda is currently developing a battery-powered electric motorcycle which emits no CO2 during operation, because the characteristics of a battery can be better utilized in the area of motorcycles, which are often used for short distance travel. Honda is aiming to introduce this electric motorcycle to the market about two years from now.

Power Products

* ・In its power products business, Honda will focus also on the development of energy creation products to support a mobility society which includes automobiles and motorcycles.

{Solar cell business}

* ・In October 2007, Honda Soltec began production of thin-film solar cells for residential use. In October 2008, the company entered the solar cell market for public and industrial uses in order to accommodate demands from more customers.

{Compact household cogeneration unit}

* ・Honda is currently developing a new model of Honda's ECOWILL compact household cogeneration system, with a target to introduce it to the market in two to three years. The new model will be equipped with an even smaller and more efficient core unit, a unique Honda technology, pursuing a high level of environmental performance.

{Mini-tiller}

* ・Targeting the rapidly growing demand in the home gardening market in Japan, Honda will introduce a new mini-tiller with a cassette gas-based engine in spring 2009, under the product name Pianta. Honda aims to cultivate new demand by introducing a new product which uses inexpensive and easy-to-handle cassette gas as fuel source.

Conclusion

* ・As we face the next year, while hoping for the earliest recovery of the global economy and the market situation, Honda will develop business plans based on an assumption that the situation will worsen next year and will navigate the company through this challenge.
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* ・Especially because this is a difficult time, Honda will not be overwhelmed by immediate matters, but rather, effectively utilize company resources to ensure the steady implementation of long-term initiatives which must be undertaken such as the advancement of environmental technologies. The result of the company's decisions this time will certainly be realized in the form of attractive new products and technologies in several years. Honda will continue making progress based on the belief that Honda's new growth potential will become evident beyond that point.
*
* ・Honda is a company driven to achieve continuous growth by the dreams and passions of each Honda associate. Especially when the company faces difficult times, each associate will maintain a high level of initiative and continue challenging.
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* ・Honda will continue earning even more smiles from its customers by creating attractive new products which only Honda can create

mrsteve 12-17-2008 08:08 AM

That might be the easiest article to read ever posted

1killercls 12-17-2008 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by mrsteve (Post 10294187)
That might be the easiest article to read ever posted

:stupid: :what:

mrdeeno 12-17-2008 08:23 AM

Great for stockholders, bad for enthusiasts. I'm betting the RWD/V8 "flagship" is gonna be canceled too...not that they really have to announce it since they never officially confirmed they were working on one.

Acura is well on their way to tier-1!

dom 12-17-2008 08:38 AM

Lets hope we hear an announcement that the MSX has been canceled as well. No point to that thing.

Considering how far along development it looked, this is a mistake IMO. The market will recover, then what?

xjohnkdoex 12-17-2008 08:47 AM

that article would've read much better if it said 'postponed' instead of 'cancelled.'

and WTF @ the comment about sustaining their business over the next 100 years. yeah, i guess no one needs a new NSX over the next century BECAUSE THE MAGIC 8 BALL TOLD US SO.

Crazy Bimmer 12-17-2008 08:48 AM


CEO Takeo Fukui on Wednesday said his company has been forced to cancel the next-generation Acura NSX sports car due to poor economic conditions. The news came during a speech about the automaker’s revised financial forecast. Plans to bring the Acura brand to Japan have also been shelved permanently, the Nikkei news service has reported.

“The situation is worsening by the day, and there is no prospect for recovery, is our understanding,” Fukui told reporters.
The NSX was a much-anticipated V10-powered sports car in the late stages of development. Designed as a successor to the original model of the same name, the new NSX was slated to be launched as a 2010 model. The project was subject to multiple delays related to the vehicle’s exterior design, but those problems were recently overcome.
Fukui previously characterized the new NSX as “necessary for Honda.”
The company indicated its operating profits will be 180 billion yen ($2 billion), down 67 percent from the forecasted 550 billion yen. There’s even a chance, according to Reuters, the automaker will report a half-year operating loss — for the latter part of 2008. If that happens, it will be the the first time in at least 11 years. Also hurting the income forecast is the yen’s strength against the U.S. dollar, which further compounds the U.S. sales problem.
The debut of the Acura brand — originally U.S.-only — in Japan was originally planned for late 2008, but was recently delayed until 2010. Given the economic downturn, Honda said it decided to cancel the costly program all together.
Honda also announced it will cut production by 314,000 vehicles worldwide for the current fiscal year, according to Bloomberg. It also will eliminate about 1,200 temporary jobs in Japan
http://www.leftlanenews.com/acura-nsx-cancelled.html

dom 12-17-2008 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by xjohnkdoex (Post 10294267)
that article would've read much better if it said 'postponed' instead of 'cancelled.'

But development is cancelled, not postponed.

dom 12-17-2008 08:58 AM


“The situation is worsening by the day, and there is no prospect for recovery, is our understanding,”
:scratch: The economy will never recover.

chill_dog 12-17-2008 09:04 AM

Great for business and Joe Everyday, bad for enthusiasts. I think Honda has made their target audience very clear. Of course, all of the other car companies, from GM to Mercedes, goes after the same audience...the difference is, those other companies have something for the enthusiasts, as well.

SHYUperman 12-17-2008 09:12 AM

dagggggerrrrr

JediMindTricks 12-17-2008 09:15 AM

shocking.

godfather2 12-17-2008 09:15 AM

sad day for ALL car enthusiasts

krio 12-17-2008 09:19 AM

・In order for Honda to sustain its business during the next 100 years of the automotive industry

Takeo is better than Nostradamus... 100 years! why not a billion? :whyme:
they don't know anything even about tomorrow, the Acura strategy is a farce.
can get sick of these rivers of words whitout meaning.
the only good issue there will not be the NSX, after two years of waiting.

krio 12-17-2008 09:24 AM

Honda will continue earning even more smiles from its customers by creating attractive new products which only Honda can create

yeah, smile and laughing. from the other brands.
cannot believe it.

invisiblewar 12-17-2008 09:37 AM

I want to laugh more than ever right now, its such a let down

dom 12-17-2008 09:39 AM

This doesn't bother me much since I'd never be buying one anyway. But I worry about what this means for a RWD platform and more advanced (new) engines and transmissions. It doesn't look good.

mrdeeno 12-17-2008 10:25 AM

I can understand the reasoning for this in the short term, but it is utterly STUPID in the long term.

They already paid for all the investment and research that went into this. If they postpone it or just push ahead and finish it, they can still "trickle" down and recoup the costs, maybe not in the short term, but surely in the long term (5-10+ years from now).

but instead, they CANCEL it so all costs that went into the development are pretty much lost in both the short and long term. I mean, these were projects that SHOULD HAVE BEEN completed while times were still good...but i guess Honda's plan of "keep them talking about us by releasing information about plans we'll never follow through on" should be expected as usual.


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