phile

I like the MDX's interior design, but I think the new X5's interior is very handsome and I'm sure the quality of material will be better. And for me that's saying a lot cause I hate most of the new BMW interiors.

Infamous425

as much as im liking the new mdx i still like the new x5 more. there are things the will x5 has that the mdx wont have while the bimmer's v8 will probably get equal if not better gas mileage than the mdx's v6

vishnus11

any pics of an X5 interior for comparison?

phile

Moog-Type-S

Love the MDX center stack, but hate the nave screen "bump" in the center of the dash.
The X5 nav screen is smoothly integrated into the overall dash design...it's a better look.

I don't like both steering wheels...but I'd give a very slight edge to the X5.
I like the X5 shifter...innovative...love it or hate it...everyone will be copying it in the next 5 years.

I don't care for either of the speedo clusters, but I give the edge to the MDX...the X5 is to boring and simplistic.

Mokos23

I'd take the MDX interior, all you're really paying for the BMW is just the name and that name is overhyped.

Python2121

The MDX has sooo many buttons!

JeffS

If you skip the rear dvd it cleans up the center console a lot.

emperuman

Exactly what I thought!! Especially compared to the BMW interior. But I totally dig the MDX both interior and exterior. I was worried that Acura might end up watering it so it went back to be a bland SUV that nobody would want to drive, but Acura spruced it up well enough to make the buyers want to have a look at it.

Combined with the usual "all-inclusive" package that Acura always markets, this should definitely be a downright success especially in the 40-45K price segment.

CGTSX2004

iTrader: (1)

I'll take a handful of extra buttons over that infuriating i-Drive system though.

mrdeeno

nothing wrong with a lot of buttons as long as they are clearly labled and layed out with different shape, sizes, and positions for different functions...unlike the old MB COMAND system where many buttons were the same size and shape and no real thought with regards to ergonomics and ease of use went into the layout.

AsianRage

From what I can see, the old 2G TL (and 1G MDX?)has almost the same about of buttons. It's just more concentrated now.

levon1830

Pricing announced for new MDX: CLICK ME!!

charliemike

$50k ... Jeezus.

Beltfed

How is $49k shocking for a loaded MDX?

Infamous425

i think $49k loaded is great pricing by acura. lets them move further away from honda (more upscale) yet still undercut its competitors

charliemike

That's what I'm saying. $10k is a huge jump in about 5 years.

TMQ

Given this, even fewer people will buy the RL.

Other than the separate color bumpers front and rear, this vehicle looks like a winner to me.

Ikko

You're a fucking idiot! How much do you expect it to cost, $50?
Some of you guys make me sick. You guys want Acura to move more upmarket,
but still sell you car for cheap? With Acura,s reliability, and the techno that went
into this new MDX?

MotionEffects

$50K is not bad at all for the new MDX, considering the market inflation. A Loaded X3 will also be around that vicinity. Between the two vehicle, the MDX is definitly the better buy IMO.

levon1830

I'm not going to call you a fucking idiot, charliemike, nor do you make me sick, but I have to say to everything else Ikko said.

heyitsme

People paying $50k for an mdx are the same as those that were willing to pay $50k for an RL, they all regret it cause it aint worth it without that German label on the hood. (Acura later admitted that with their new Rl models)

mrdeeno

big difference between RL and MDX...

1) RL was never successful in the past. MDX has been successful.

2) MDX is an SUV, RL is a sedan. People in the U.S. are more likely to pay more for an SUV than they are for a sedan.

3) Buyers were forced to face a $50k MSRP for the RL, whether they pay less or not. MDX starts at $40k...easy to swallow for an upscale car, not to mention eve easier for an upscale SUV.

4) Buyers can choose whether to spend low $40k's for what they need plus some extras, or choose to spend up to $50k for everything. RL buyers were forced to take all or nothing. Spending this much money, most people like choices how to spend their money.

5) RL is the unofficial flagship of the Acura lineup...expectations are way up there and a lot of people were let down, especially for $50k. the MDX, starting at $40k, has no such expectation to stand up to except being $5k better than the last gen, which seems very likely.

ostrich

I think this is very reasonable for what you get! From all the write-ups that I have read so far, this is a really great vehicle. You cannot get the same level of performance and features at this price from its competitors (OK, please don't compare it with the 06 Infiniti FX35 because it is an older model and the dealers are willing to drop $5000 on its MRSP and then its interior is nowhere as nice as the new MDX!).

mrdeeno

^^ Word up...and this will help people to get used to Acuras up to $50k.

phile

What do you mean? The plastic cladding?

I think it's a bit excessive too, no one's going to take this thing off road.

Interesting observation, they didn't include the new MB ML350 in the comparison test for the journalists. And I know they avoided the revised RX350 cause they don't consider the Lexus a competitor (yeah right), but I think those two cars would've been faster than the MDX to 60.

jwaters943

How do you figure? Both the RX350 and ML350 have less horsepower/torque. The RX350 has the best chance due to it's weight advantage, but still, Lexus lists it as 7.4 seconds 0-60. MB lists the ML350 at 7.9 seconds. FWIW, Acura has stated they expect the MDX to reach 0-60 in around 7 seconds. That sounds perfectly reasonable given the fact that the current MDX does 0-60 in just over 8 seconds.

As for the RX350 being the MDX's competition.......maybe for some people, but the RX is more of a Buick than a sporty SUV in the same vein as BMW & Porsche. Every review thus far has stated the MDX is a worthy alternative to the X5 & Cayenne. On top of that, the MDX is much roomier and can tow 1500 lbs. more than the RX. Rumor is the next-gen RX is to be quite a bit bigger than the current model to make room for a smaller SUV below the RX which will compete with the X3 & RDX. Until then, the RX350 will reign supreme among uninformed consumers who just "want a Lexus", regardless of how good the competition may be.

phile

This quick review from C&D has the Lexus doing 0-60 in 6.8 seconds. C&D
The ML is definitely an 8 second 0-60 car, most reviews have it pegged in that area.

Although the MDX offers a significant bump in HP, the early reviews, such as the very in depth one from TOV, says the performance still isn't neck snapping or quick off the line, it is after all stil moving a lot of mass. I think real world tests will probably have it at a 7.5 second 0-60 car.

That's only because Acura provided those two cars for comparison, which was what I was referring to when I said it was interesting Acura didn't include the new MB. The RX is everybit competition for the MDX as the ES is for the TL. Different driving dynamics, but no doubt, the same class.

Infamous425

maybe because neither the RX or the ML are 7 passenger SUVs

jwaters943

This quick review from C&D has the Lexus doing 0-60 in 6.8 seconds. C&D
The ML is definitely an 8 second 0-60 car, most reviews have it pegged in that area.

Too bad I can't find any other, more "realistic" times. It's well known C&D manages to get the lowest 0-60 times out of any of the major automotive publications. There seems to be a lack of testing on the RX350...the closest I found was the RAV4 which shares it's V6 engine with the RX, but weighs over 350 lbs. less. Edmunds managed to get to 60mph in 7.2 seconds. This is compared to their recent review of the RDX which reached 60mph in 6.8 seconds. Either way, good to know the RX is pretty fast in a straight line.

Although the MDX offers a significant bump in HP, the early reviews, such as the very in depth one from TOV, says the performance still isn't neck snapping or quick off the line, it is after all stil moving a lot of mass. I think real world tests will probably have it at a 7.5 second 0-60 car.

Well, I take your TOV point of view and counter you this:

From The Car Connection:

The MDX's new 3.7-liter SOHC VTEC (Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control) V-6 - Acura's largest and most powerful ever, and the strongest six in any U.S.-market SUV - pumps 300 peak SAE net horses and 275 lb-ft of torque through a five-speed automatic with Sequential Sport Shift. We didn't get a straight-line performance test, but 0-60 should fall into the sub-seven-second range.

Edmunds take:

Behind the V6 is a new, strengthened and regeared five-speed automatic with grade-logic control and SportShift manual capability, and the combination makes the 4,500-pound MDX feel downright quick. The last time we tested an MDX was way back in 2003 when it was rated at just 240 hp. Even then, the MDX ran to 60 mph in about 8 seconds and we suspect the 2007 MDX will easily eclipse that modest performance. Towing capacity rises from 4,500 to 5,000 pounds

*whether easily eclipse means a .5 or 1.0 second improvement remains to be seen, but it's worth noting that the MDX gained all that horsepower and torque, while also improving the aerodynamics, suspension tuning and gearing and not gaining any keeping the weight in check. I'll guess we'll have to wait for more testing.

That's only because Acura provided those two cars for comparison, which was what I was referring to when I said it was interesting Acura didn't include the new MB. The RX is everybit competition for the MDX as the ES is for the TL. Different driving dynamics, but no doubt, the same class.

Perhaps the review at www.cars.com says it best:
Extensive changes to the suspension and all-wheel drive have transformed the MDX's ride and handling. Acura developed these aspects at Germany's challenging Nurburgring racetrack, to which many automakers have recently flocked to try to emulate regulars such as BMW and Porsche. Is this necessary for an SUV? No, but Acura says the agility makes all drivers safer in emergency situations. Acura also is trying to spread the notion that its vehicles are fun to drive, as many are. Automakers have finally figured out how important this has been to BMW's success and begun trying to compete in performance, not just features and luxury.

agranado

okay guys. bar none, hands down, etc etc, this car is fucking gorgeous. Outdoes the current MDX by leagues. And its also competitively priced... I think we have a big winner here over the coming months..

charliemike

Seriously, that was completely uncalled for ... You don't know me.

charliemike

Uhh, I don't recall saying that Acura had to move "upmarket".

Don't lump me in with those that do. Acura's problem is not the price they charge for their cars. It's the cars they charge that price for ...

Ikko

And the MDX isn't worth $40k-$48k?

GSteg

the price looks good. not bad at all.

SupaRookie

I think this thing is definitely geek approved!! I mean look @ it, so many buttons. The interior looks very nice. The exterior...I think I need some more time to give it a little bit more thought. The MDX is definitely competitively price; but definitely out of my budget. Maybe I'll buy it used in 5-7 yrs, it should be more affordable then, lol.

Sdog2012

I think this thing looks terrible outside, great interior though. This pricing should work as they want to keep it away from the RDX price

mrdeeno

How comes a $35k TL has more engine bay cladding than a $40-50k MDX?

Acura's making a BIG MISTAKE!!!

unlemming

Weight savings.

Moog-Type-S

50k for ugly.




...with the exception of the interior.