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Old 10-31-2014, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by iforyou
Probably just camera trick? I don't think it will look as wide in real life??
Hopefully. If it is as wide as it looks, it'd be wider than the roof.

Notice also that there isn't any space between where the side of the grille meets the headlights like on the TLX. The grille and headlights meet on the ILX.

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Originally Posted by iforyou
Probably just camera trick? I don't think it will look as wide in real life??
Its the angle at which the picture was taken.
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Originally Posted by MeehowsBRZ
Its the angle at which the picture was taken.
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From the email I received today:

"But the ILX isn't meant to be admired at a standstill. No, the ILX is meant to be enjoyed where the signs read "Winding Road - Next 27 miles." The primary focus is performance. Legendary Acura safety and reliability will just be a bonus."


Sounds interesting
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Originally Posted by VR1
From the email I received today:

"But the ILX isn't meant to be admired at a standstill. No, the ILX is meant to be enjoyed where the signs read "Winding Road - Next 27 miles." The primary focus is performance. Legendary Acura safety and reliability will just be a bonus."

Sounds interesting
Sounds like effective marketing copy. Acura has not focused on performance since they killed the NSX. If the ILX is what that quote says it is, it'll be something the RLX and TLX are not. And that would be very surprising and welcome in a segment that's really not about performance.
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Acura has stated not too long ago that they absolutely, with no doubt in their minds, will never build a RWD car. They're moving into the AWD game, like Subaru. I believe they will still keep cheaper, FWD options though (as witnessed with the new TLX).

I personally dont care which wheels they decide to drive. I just want a 6MT. Clearly, that's not going to happen either
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"Winding Road"

"primary focus is performance"

Does that mean PAWS? SH-AWD? More powerful (turbo?) engine? DCT?

Hope it's not another let down. But then again, I'm not expecting much of anything either.

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I have a very reliable Psychic. She told me that it is going to be:

2.4L FWD with less than 210HP, 8 DCT.

So basically the current ILX + 8DCT - 6mt option.

i'd rather just get the Si for 5k cheaper.
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I'd be fine with a 210hp K24 ILX FWD with leather and everything for $30-31k, as long as they keep the weight around 3200-3300lbs. Then a 240-270hp version with SHAWD for $36k.
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Originally Posted by VR1
I'd be fine with a 210hp K24 ILX FWD with leather and everything for $30-31k, as long as they keep the weight around 3200-3300lbs. Then a 240-270hp version with SHAWD for $36k.
I'd be surprised if it's at 3200-3300lb for a FWD K24 model. The current ILX 2.0 is at 2955lb, and the K24 ILX 6MT is at 2978lb. The new model will probably still be under 3100lb.
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I sat in both a TSX and ILX last weekend. In some ways, the ILX is certainly more modern but felt cheaper than the TSX.

I really liked my sister's 2011 she just bought. I bet with the V6 it's a perfectly acceptable small sedan.
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Originally Posted by iforyou
I'd be surprised if it's at 3200-3300lb for a FWD K24 model. The current ILX 2.0 is at 2955lb, and the K24 ILX 6MT is at 2978lb. The new model will probably still be under 3100lb.
Considering TLX 2.4 base is close to 3500lbs and ILX will most likely get most of its tech. I would be surprised if it is not around 3300 lbs.
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Originally Posted by charliemike
I sat in both a TSX and ILX last weekend. In some ways, the ILX is certainly more modern but felt cheaper than the TSX.

I really liked my sister's 2011 she just bought. I bet with the V6 it's a perfectly acceptable small sedan.
The point is that it shouldn't have to be. Honda's bread and butter has always been great performance from 4 cylinder engines that rev high. They haven't made that since 2008. Someone needs to get on the phone with them and let them know the recession is over. If they have enough balls to build the Civic type R in Europe where a recession is still very possible, they should have the balls to build something similar here.

Putting a V6 in a small sedan is a total cop out and is borderline cheating. Do something unique, do something unexpected. That's the kind of thrill that people want, not a porky slow "sport" sedan with fancy headlights. Ford has been doing it for years and look at the success it's brought them.

Then again, Honda hates us and Honda NA hates us more.

Originally Posted by oonowindoo
Considering TLX 2.4 base is close to 3500lbs and ILX will most likely get most of its tech. I would be surprised if it is not around 3300 lbs.
oink oink. Any performance gains from whatever engine they put in this will more than likely be completely negated if that happens.
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
Considering TLX 2.4 base is close to 3500lbs and ILX will most likely get most of its tech. I would be surprised if it is not around 3300 lbs.
Hmm I"m not sure about that.

Put it this way, the TLX 2.4 base is 3483lb, the TLX 2.4 Tech is 3492lb. A grand total of 9 pounds with the extra tech package.

Another example, the TLX 3.5 base is 3585lb, the TLX 3.5 with advance pkg is 3620lb, a gain of 35lb.

Right now, an ILX 2.0 base is 2955lb, and the ILX 2.0 Advance is 2970lb, a difference of 15lb.

Acura must be adding a shxt load of stuff to the ILX to make to make it gain 300lb.

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The point is that it shouldn't have to be. Honda's bread and butter has always been great performance from 4 cylinder engines that rev high. They haven't made that since 2008. Someone needs to get on the phone with them and let them know the recession is over. If they have enough balls to build the Civic type R in Europe where a recession is still very possible, they should have the balls to build something similar here.

Putting a V6 in a small sedan is a total cop out and is borderline cheating. Do something unique, do something unexpected. That's the kind of thrill that people want, not a porky slow "sport" sedan with fancy headlights. Ford has been doing it for years and look at the success it's brought them.

Then again, Honda hates us and Honda NA hates us more.
Just wondering, what Ford "sport" sedan are you referring to?
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Originally Posted by iforyou
Just wondering, what Ford "sport" sedan are you referring to?
I'm not referring to any one car from Ford but look at the Fiesta ST, Focus ST, Taurus SHO, Mustang GT, Raptor, etc. None of these cars were meant to be volume sellers since they are generally there to attract enthusiasts. What Ford didn't expect was that all of these cars would be HUGE hits and the take rates are quite high for all of them vs the rest of their respective models ranges (other than the Raptor). Ford took a chance and it paid off. And for an auto company know for making absolutely dogshit cars for the past three decades, it was a huge chance. Honda, on the other hand, made wonderful cars in the early 00's and they've only recently lost their way. Going back to that core business isn't that much of a sell for their customers. Just look at forums like this, there are tons of enthusiasts who want that sort of thing back. If Honda announced a next gen S2000 was launching tomorrow, I'd go camp out at my local dealership right now. (well not right now, it's 5F outside but you get the point)
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Originally Posted by iforyou
Hmm I"m not sure about that.

Put it this way, the TLX 2.4 base is 3483lb, the TLX 2.4 Tech is 3492lb. A grand total of 9 pounds with the extra tech package.

Another example, the TLX 3.5 base is 3585lb, the TLX 3.5 with advance pkg is 3620lb, a gain of 35lb.

Right now, an ILX 2.0 base is 2955lb, and the ILX 2.0 Advance is 2970lb, a difference of 15lb.

Acura must be adding a shxt load of stuff to the ILX to make to make it gain 300lb.
adding PAWS. 8DCT and all the new sound damping crap will add more than 100lbs.
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
adding PAWS. 8DCT and all the new sound damping crap will add more than 100lbs.
Adding sh-awd would add another 100+
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
I'm not referring to any one car from Ford but look at the Fiesta ST, Focus ST, Taurus SHO, Mustang GT, Raptor, etc. None of these cars were meant to be volume sellers since they are generally there to attract enthusiasts. What Ford didn't expect was that all of these cars would be HUGE hits and the take rates are quite high for all of them vs the rest of their respective models ranges (other than the Raptor). Ford took a chance and it paid off. And for an auto company know for making absolutely dogshit cars for the past three decades, it was a huge chance. Honda, on the other hand, made wonderful cars in the early 00's and they've only recently lost their way. Going back to that core business isn't that much of a sell for their customers. Just look at forums like this, there are tons of enthusiasts who want that sort of thing back. If Honda announced a next gen S2000 was launching tomorrow, I'd go camp out at my local dealership right now. (well not right now, it's 5F outside but you get the point)
Ah, I think I just misread your previous post. Thanks for clarifying!

Originally Posted by oonowindoo
adding PAWS. 8DCT and all the new sound damping crap will add more than 100lbs.
I'd imagine the DCT wouldn't be too heavy compared to the 5AT. That 5AT is so old.....

P-AWS essentially consists of a control unit and two actuators. And each actuator is fitted in the toe control link. The whole system is very compact.

If the ILX uses the same acoustic foam sound insulation tech from the TLX, then that probably adds little weight. I mean, it's just foam after all.

Anyways, we are both just speculating, so we will know soon enough.

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Adding sh-awd would add another 100+
haha more like 250lb!
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6MT gone, 2.0L gone, quick refresh, no new engines, no PAWS, no SHAWD, 2.4L only, new one is marginally more powerful, beak is gone (!!!!), new 8DCT only, adds jewel eyes, comes with appearance only A-Spec package. Who called it?

"It's just a badge-engineered Honda Civic." This (uninformed) criticism has been leveled at the Acura ILX since the premium compact arrived on the scene to duke it out with the Buick Verano and, more recently, the Audi A3 and Mercedes-Benz CLA-class. For model year 2016, Acura will attempt to address the car's critics, issuing a major reshuffle of the sedan's lineup along with the typical sheen of a mid-cycle refresh.

Following up on the discontinuation of the ILX Hybrid for 2015, Acura is dispatching the antiquated pairing of the base 2.0-liter four-cylinder and five-speed automatic for 2016. The 2.4-liter, sourced from the Honda Civic Si, still produces 201 horsepower, while torque has been bumped up from 170 to 180, with peak output arriving at 3,600 rpm rather than 4,400. Acura is also adding the same eight-speed, dual-clutch transmission from the TLX to its ILX lineup. Unfortunately, the slick-shifting six-speed manual transmission we've always enjoyed has been discontinued. Sad trombone, indeed.

Powertrain tweaks aside, Acura has issued a pretty handsome freshening for 2016. The ILX was always a handsome offering, but the new front and rear clips are improvements. Acura's love-it-or-hate-it JewelEye headlights have been grafted onto the ILX, while the grille, a traditional weak point for the brand, is perhaps one of the best we've seen out of the company in several years. The rear taillights also received some attention, although it was the back bumper that saw the biggest update, with the lower section getting a sportier look.

Acura will also add a new A-Spec package for 2016, which replaces the standard 17-inch wheels with 18s, adds "Euro-style" stitching to the steering wheel and adds black Lux Suede inserts to the seats, along with a flurry of smaller aesthetic tweaks. The A-Spec can be added alongside the existing Premium and Technology Packs.
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we all called it...

Whoever said it is getting turbo needs a reality check.

But
The ILX was always a handsome offering,
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Press Release

Acura Set to Launch More Powerful, Technologically Advanced and Luxuriously Equipped 2016 Acura ILX Sport Sedan



•Re-engineered ILX delivers exceptional performance with new standard
201-horsepower direct-injected engine and 8-speed dual-clutch transmission with torque converter
•Available AcuraWatch™ suite of advanced safety and driver-assistive technologies sets a new benchmark in the entry-luxury segment
•New grades increase customer choice with premium features, style and technology; New A-SPEC variant adds package of sporty design elements inside and out

LOS ANGELES, Calif., November 20, 2014 – Acura took the wraps off its restyled, reengineered and reborn 2016 ILX sports sedan today, launching at Acura dealerships nationwide in early 2015. The 2016 Acura ILX delivers more strongly than ever before on its mission as the gateway to the Acura lineup with a major injection of Acura performance DNA, courtesy of its new 201-horsepower, directed-injected i-VTEC engine and 8-speed dual-clutch transmission for all models, the same advanced engine and transmission combination that powers the just-launched TLX.

The 2016 ILX boasts dynamic new front and rear styling cues, standard Jewel EyeTM LED headlights, upgraded interior materials, optional upsized wheels and tires, enhanced connectivity, and a host of new premium features and technologies, along with significant improvements to cabin quietness, sporty handling and collision safety.

The 2016 ILX also expands customer choice with six available grades vs. the previous three, including the standard ILX, the ILX with Premium Package, and the line-topping ILX Technology Plus Package. In addition, an all-new A-SPEC package, available with the Premium and Technology packages, adds sporty style, and all models can now be equipped with AcuraWatch™, the most advanced suite of safety and driver assistive technologies in the class. The ILX AcuraWatch suite includes Adaptive Cruise Control, Road Departure Mitigation and enhanced Collision Mitigation Braking System™ with pedestrian sensing capability.

"Top to bottom, from dynamic design to luxury features, and leading-edge safety technology to sport sedan athleticism and sophistication, ILX is now a true gateway to Acura's performance luxury sedans," said Michael Accavitti, senior vice president and general manager for the Acura division. "ILX was always a great idea. Now it's a great idea fulfilled-a luxury vehicle for the next generation."

New Powertrain

All 2016 ILX models will be powered by a 2.4-liter, 16-valve, direct-injected DOHC i-VTEC engine with peak output of 201-horsepower at 6,800 rpm and 180 lb.-ft. of torque at 3,600 rpm, up 51 horsepower and 40 lb.-ft. compared to the outgoing 2.0-liter engine. The new engine is mated to an 8-speed dual clutch transmission (DCT) with torque converter and paddle-controlled Sequential Sport Shift. It's the most advanced transmission in its competitive set, delivering incredibly quick, crisp and intuitive gear changes, including rev-matching down shifts, to achieve outstanding response and sporting performance with top-class fuel efficiency. The world's first DCT with a torque converter, Acura's 8-speed DCT provides off-the-line torque multiplication for smoother, more powerful launches that other DCTs cannot match.

Dynamic Styling

The 2016 ILX gets numerous styling upgrades including restyled front and rear facias, front grille and rear LED combination lights, plus a restyled 17-inch, 10-spoke aluminum alloy wheel. The new ILX A-SPEC package features a sporty side sill garnish, trunk spoiler, front fog lights and new 18-inch, 10-spoke machined alloy wheels with gloss black insets. All ILX models come equipped with Acura's signature Jewel EyeTM LED headlights as standard equipment, a feature unmatched in the competitive set.

The 2016 ILX also benefits from numerous interior upgrades, including contrasting Euro-style stitching on the steering wheel, parking brake handle and shift knob, as well as new high-intensity silver trim for the passenger-side instrument panel. The ILX A-SPEC package enhances the exceptional cabin appeal and appointments with an exclusive Premium Black interior color scheme including black headliner, perforated black Lux Suede® seat inserts, red instrument illumination, exclusive gray interior stitching and aluminum brake and throttle pedals.

New Premium Features and AcuraWatch™

In addition to the new powertrain and extensive interior and exterior upgrades, the 2016 ILX also ups the ante for luxury, connectivity and technological sophistication. Premium and above grades get a new two-position driver's seat memory function, a 4-way power passenger seat, Homelink remote, and Acura's On-Demand Multi-Use Display (ODMD) with upper 8-inch display screen and lower 7-inch touchscreen. The evolved touchscreen connectivity and media system receives more than 50 design changes to enhance intuitive operation and functionality.

Also available for the first time on the Premium grade is a new tethered navigation system powered by the user's compatible iPhone and data plan via the AcuraLink navigation app. Premium and above models also get Acura's Blind Spot Information and Rear Cross Traffic Monitor along with enhanced audio options, including SiruisXM radio, AHA radio and HD radio.

The Tech Plus grade with AcuraWatch™ and embedded Acura Navigation add a color Multi-information Display (MID) between the tachometer and speedometer, Siri Eyes Free and ELS premium audio system along with the latest generation of Acura Link connected car technology.

All ILX models can be equipped with the AcuraWatch™ suite of advanced safety and driver-assistive technologies, the most advanced system of its kind in the competitive set. AcuraWatch™ includes Adaptive Cruise Control, Lane Keeping Assist System, a Multi-View Rear Camera with Dynamic Guidelines, as well as Road Departure Mitigation and an enhanced Collision Mitigation Braking System™ (including Forward Collision Warning) with sensor fusion technology that enables new capabilities including pedestrian sensing.

Body, Chassis and Safety Enhancements

The ILX body and chassis benefit from significant engineering changes that advance collision safety, increase body rigidity, improve cabin quietness and enhance sporty handling performance.

Utilizing Acura's next-generation Advanced Compatibility Engineering™ (ACE™) body structure, the 2016 ILX is designed to more efficiently absorb and disperse the energy in a frontal collision and targets a "GOOD" rating in the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) small-overlap frontal crash test and an overall "TOP SAFETY PICK+" IIHS crash safety rating.

Cabin quietness is enhanced by additional noise-insulating materials, a thicker front-side door glass, noise attenuating wheels, and the addition of Active Noise Control technology. Steering responsiveness and linearity is also improved via a retuned suspension and a multitude of chassis design enhancements.
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What the ILX should have been from the start.
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So..

Base (?)
Premium
Tech
Tech Plus
A-Spec?

And Acurawatch is an additional extra?

That's a bit unnecessary...
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Looks like the features have definitely been improved, including cabin refinement and NVH. Add the 2.4 motor and you have an excellent mass market starter car for Acura.

Good for them
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What a waste.

Edit: its not that bad. Reincarnation of the 1G TSX?

Was hoping for a Type S trim tho.

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No 6MT?




Zero f**** given.





Next, please!
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I'd expect this to steal a huge chunk of sales from base TLX.
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
I'd expect this to steal a huge chunk of sales from base TLX.
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Not a car for me, but maybe it works for my mother. She likes the TLX, but I have a hard time allowing her to spend that much on what she's getting over the competition. She's over her Accord and looking for something new.
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Why not just stick a DCT in the Si instead of bothering with this model?
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Originally Posted by MTEAZY
Why not just stick a DCT in the Si instead of bothering with this model?
Because Si owners are ALL 6 speed owners

Because ILX buyers want automatics
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
Because Si owners are ALL 6 speed owners

Because ILX buyers want automatics
This term...ILX "buyer"...I'm not familiar with it.


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No real surprises, these changes are as expected. Not sure about the rear, but I like the restyled front. Seems like the changes would make the ILX double its sales lol...will it affect the TLX's sales? I guess we will find out next year.
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Originally Posted by iforyou
No real surprises, these changes are as expected. Not sure about the rear, but I like the restyled front. Seems like the changes would make the ILX double its sales lol...will it affect the TLX's sales? I guess we will find out next year.
i bet you E$10 that it will.
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But you know, that's not really a bad thing. The last thing I want to see is Acura worrying about internal competition and then makes the ILX into a piece of shxt like it's been for the past few years. Like some of us have been saying, sales isn't everything. At least this ILX wouldn't be laughed at as much as before.
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
I'd expect this to steal a huge chunk of sales from base TLX.
+1, why would I buy a base TLX when I could buy a loaded ILX? Other than the size, it's not like I'd be missing out on any features.

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Not a car for me, but maybe it works for my mother. She likes the TLX, but I have a hard time allowing her to spend that much on what she's getting over the competition. She's over her Accord and looking for something new.
Tell her to buy a new Accord. It's the same as the TLX, just cheaper.

Originally Posted by iforyou
But you know, that's not really a bad thing. The last thing I want to see is Acura worrying about internal competition and then makes the ILX into a piece of shxt like it's been for the past few years. Like some of us have been saying, sales isn't everything. At least this ILX wouldn't be laughed at as much as before.
You say that like they seem to be worried about external competition...


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