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#4402
Sedan is 10% more efficient than wagon in practical driving.
https://www.edmunds.com/acura/tsx-sp...-range.htmlOne thing I've noticed with our TSX Sport Wagon is that it'll go pretty far on a tank of gas. Any car that can consistently go more than 400 miles is pretty good in my book, and the TSX qualifies. I took this picture soon after the low-fuel warning light went on and later fueled up at the gas station at 446.9 miles. I put in 16.7 gallons, giving me a 26.7 mpg average. The TSX's listed fuel tank capacity is 18.5 gallons, so I could have gone even further.
Brent Romans, Senior Automotive Editor
Brent Romans, Senior Automotive Editor
#4403
18.5 gallon is the stated . wait 30 second you can easily put an extra one gallon with very little effort. I have tested it all condition form from extreme cold and hot weather in control environment. but its moot point as your VW will simply fall apart at those high mileage while TSX engine gets better and better the more mileage you put it in it. with proper maintaince a million mile is nothing even with employing VTEC consistently.
Sedan is 10% more efficient than wagon in practical driving.
Sedan is 10% more efficient than wagon in practical driving.
Your quote is interesting though. 26.5 mpg is cute, even with an 18.5 gallon tank. I'll be right there with all while carrying 4 fewer gallons in my VW.
#4404
You know we always have love for your tire theories. But at least get the fact right... 328 with Sport package comes with non-staggered 225 all reason run flat. You can only get summer tires with RWD M sport....
And what made BMW's sport rim lighter?
And what made BMW's sport rim lighter?
Acura TSX 6MT that is in high rev band than 5speed auto get this mileage from C&D long term test. the test was started in cold weather of January.
2012 BMW 328 manual transmission that has turbo with a lot more torque got 27mpg and most of time on lighter sport rims and summer performance tires.
V6 TSX have active sound control.
2012 BMW 328 manual transmission that has turbo with a lot more torque got 27mpg and most of time on lighter sport rims and summer performance tires.
V6 TSX have active sound control.
#4405
18.5 gallon is the stated . wait 30 second you can easily put an extra one gallon with very little effort. I have tested it all condition form from extreme cold and hot weather in control environment. but its moot point as your VW will simply fall apart at those high mileage while TSX engine gets better and better the more mileage you put it in it. with proper maintaince a million mile is nothing even with employing VTEC consistently.
Sedan is 10% more efficient than wagon in practical driving.
Sedan is 10% more efficient than wagon in practical driving.
I think all the cars you had talked shit about can do 26.7mph on a long road trip... i could even manage to do 29mpg average 90mph obviously not as fast as your 105mph
Let me get this straight.. so are you saying that Honda not only has superior bhp... it also superior gas tank? Like expandable gas tank?
I dont know about you, but when my gas tank says 18 gallons... i could never fill up 18 gallons even when it reads 0... on the other hand , you could actually overfill by a whole gallon, Impressive!
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#4406
Only potential explanation for the Honda magic fuel tank would be filling it to the brim, but I doubt the filler neck holds an entire gallon.
Not to mention the issues with overfilling the tank that way.
Not to mention the issues with overfilling the tank that way.
#4407
My money is that he overflowed and completely filled up (and ruined) his charcoal canister
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#4410
Your quote is interesting though. 26.5 mpg is cute, even with an 18.5 gallon tank. I'll be right there with all while carrying 4 fewer gallons in my VW.
#4411
Let me get this straight.. so are you saying that Honda not only has superior bhp... it also superior gas tank? Like expandable gas tank?
I dont know about you, but when my gas tank says 18 gallons... i could never fill up 18 gallons even when it reads 0... on the other hand , you could actually overfill by a whole gallon, Impressive!
I dont know about you, but when my gas tank says 18 gallons... i could never fill up 18 gallons even when it reads 0... on the other hand , you could actually overfill by a whole gallon, Impressive!
its all about confidence on long trips at higher speeds and on hills driving in northern California regardless of climate.. 650 mile on tank. while friends have no confidence beyond 280 mile before they want a charge station.
#4412
26.7mpg is not on long trip but mix driving. Edmunds said consistently doing over 400mile per tank.
when TSX range to empty is zero. I still drive over 20mile. I did not did repeatedly but its perfectly doable.
its all about confidence on long trips at higher speeds and on hills driving in northern California regardless of climate.. 650 mile on tank. while friends have no confidence beyond 280 mile before they want a charge station.
when TSX range to empty is zero. I still drive over 20mile. I did not did repeatedly but its perfectly doable.
its all about confidence on long trips at higher speeds and on hills driving in northern California regardless of climate.. 650 mile on tank. while friends have no confidence beyond 280 mile before they want a charge station.
Let me break it down for you: ALL CARS can do that.... but it is still all part of your 18 gallon tank...you still cannot possibly fill up 19.5 without spilling.
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#4416
yah of course it is not good to do that... The fuel pump will suck up all the "dirt/deposit" on the bottom of the tank....
https://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-...y-gas-tank.htm
https://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-...y-gas-tank.htm
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#4417
yah of course it is not good to do that... The fuel pump will suck up all the "dirt/deposit" on the bottom of the tank....
https://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-...y-gas-tank.htm
https://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-...y-gas-tank.htm
#4418
^ I personally do not believe the gas is flawless if you consider the gas goes from the refinery to the truck tanker, then pumped into the underground tank then gets pumped into the your gas tank. As tiny as they might be, there will be some kind of crap in it... That is why we have filters right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_filter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_filter
#4419
Stinger is turbo and a lot more gears than TSX. but it is not getting higher mileage by your logic.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...g-term-update/
The Stinger averaged 21 mpg while it was in our care, equaling the EPA's combined estimate. It did see road-trip fuel economy in the high 20s to low 30s, boosting its potential range to more than 450 mile
The Stinger averaged 21 mpg while it was in our care, equaling the EPA's combined estimate. It did see road-trip fuel economy in the high 20s to low 30s, boosting its potential range to more than 450 mile
#4420
long range in first two months with wagon. it takes a while for Honda engine to achieve efficiency.
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/acur...agon-update-1/
Long Term Update 1: 2011 Acura TSX Sport Wagon
He adds, "Cruising range, at 574 miles, is awesome. I love vehicles that can go a long distance without needing a fill-up This car is a blast on a twisty road. Great balance, sharp turn-in, and very easy to hustle safely -- and ESC isn't that intrusive."
#4421
^ I personally do not believe the gas is flawless if you consider the gas goes from the refinery to the truck tanker, then pumped into the underground tank then gets pumped into the your gas tank. As tiny as they might be, there will be some kind of crap in it... That is why we have filters right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_filter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_filter
#4422
it technically so advanced and still reliable.
https://hondanews.eu/gb/en/cars/medi...cord-press-kit
imagine other Asian and Latin countries start suing them.
https://www.dw.com/de/dieselskandal-...agt/a-51602838
Already 28 billion - and no end yet
Diesel scandal: VW is also being sued by Canada
Already 28 billion - and no end yet
Diesel scandal: VW is also being sued by Canada
#4423
#4424
I have proven beyond doubt TSX is long range vehicle at all speeds with refined performance with wide seats and a lot of headroom and excellent driver eyesight. it is highly reliable for very high mileage. you wont see brake dust on 11 years old rims or any oil consumption. its the only FWD drive car that can pull high gs on all season tires without LSD like Civic Si.
it technically so advanced and still reliable.
https://hondanews.eu/gb/en/cars/medi...cord-press-kit
imagine other Asian and Latin countries start suing them.
it technically so advanced and still reliable.
https://hondanews.eu/gb/en/cars/medi...cord-press-kit
imagine other Asian and Latin countries start suing them.
#4426
The point I am making is when low fuel light comes on TSX. it has 2 gallons on stated reserve. but you can put upto 3 gallon at that point. its a Euro Accord. that takes also imperial gallon. the car has a lot more flexibility in fuel tank. Right hand car is the same as left hand. I can even show
Stinger is turbo and a lot more gears than TSX. but it is not getting higher mileage by your logic.
Stinger is turbo and a lot more gears than TSX. but it is not getting higher mileage by your logic.
I am not even going to respond to the first part, because i dont understand what the hell you are talking about.
#4427
I thought we were talking about mpg at triple digits like you know ...fuel efficiency at 105mph. So now we are back at normal average mpg? Well no shit... cars with more power will use more gas.. shocking.
I am not even going to respond to the first part, because i dont understand what the hell you are talking about.
I am not even going to respond to the first part, because i dont understand what the hell you are talking about.
2010 TSX V6 achieved 25mpg. obviously it has larger rim and wider tires.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...d-test-review/
2011 upgrade made TSX a bit more efficient and quieter from already its class leading figures.
#4428
Honda sales figure in China practically surpassing US. that once dominant postion of VW group in China is withering away.
Toyota, Mazda jump, Honda climbs, Nissan edges down in Nov. China sales - Gasgoo
#4429
C&D tests are bit harder than normal.
2010 TSX V6 achieved 25mpg. obviously it has larger rim and wider tires.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...d-test-review/
2011 upgrade made TSX a bit more efficient and quieter from already its class leading figures.
2010 TSX V6 achieved 25mpg. obviously it has larger rim and wider tires.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...d-test-review/
2011 upgrade made TSX a bit more efficient and quieter from already its class leading figures.
#4430
it seems you haven't worked in scientific development by constantly referring to one variable 105mph in 2 hours while completely ignoring other variables like the car was more than 10 years old at time with very high mileage and temperuature of 99 degree and oil life after 9k miles. it was not just test of fuel economic. No one will drive old Germanic crap in this temperature with unreliable air-conditioning.
#4431
But you were the one who brought up the high speed fuel efficiecy? It seems you can't back up your claims this time.
I dont think the reliability of Air conditioning has anything to do with anything. I personally think the superior bhp claim of TSX is more valid.
I dont think the reliability of Air conditioning has anything to do with anything. I personally think the superior bhp claim of TSX is more valid.
#4433
So...what you're saying is that you're just making shit up and not able to actually back it with any tangible data or observations? Ok cool.
#4434
CarPlay
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/a...rs-142387.html
Apple Silently Fixes Major CarPlay Bug on Acura Cars
2 Apr 2020, 19:44 UTC ·by Bogdan Popa
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The most recent iOS update comes with significant improvements for the CarPlay dashboard, finally allowing third-party maps apps to replace Apple Maps, but as with every new operating system version, there’s more to discover in terms of bug fixes and optimizations.
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As it turns out, one of the fixes in iOS 13.4 concerns a bug breaking down CarPlay in Acura cars.
A one-year-old issue makes it impossible for Acura owners to activate CarPlay because the connection cuts off at random times regardless of the iPhone model being used.
A discussion thread on Apple’s Communities has nearly 450 “Me too” votes, which means that hundreds of Acura owners who took to the forums have already encountered the problem.
As the original poster explains, the issue happened with up-to-date software and a genuine cable for the connection between the iPhone and the car’s HU.
“After connecting, successfully, my iPhone X to the RDX's infotainment unit, the connection repeatedly cuts off, only to re-connect some time later. I have changed cords, and the software on both the phone and the infotainment system are up to date,” the poster says.
But more recently, I’ve seen several people claiming that the normal CarPlay behavior has been restored in Acura cars. Most likely, Apple finally addressed the issue in iOS 13.4, so if you previously experienced the connectivity bug in an Acura car, just try to update your iPhone to the latest version.
Some in the linked thread mentioned above seems to confirm as well that iOS 13.4 resolves the Acura CarPlay problem.
“I've installed the iOS update (currently on 13.4). I have not driven my Acura enough to feel 100% confident, however in the few times I've been in the car, I have had no disconnect issues. The factory reset seems to work,” one user explains.
We’re still waiting for confirmation the issue is resolved for all Acura models, so if the iOS 13.4 update resolved the connectivity bug, make sure you let us know in the box after the jump.
#4435
Type S History
https://www.motortrend.com/news/acur...istory-photos/
Acura's Type S Sub-Brand Returns After a Decade-Plus of Dormancy
Acura's sporty sub-brand originated nearly two decades ago.
Nick YekikianWordsCourtesy of ManufacturerPhotosMay 28, 2020The Type S name is making its return with the 2021 Acura TLX. We've known for quite some time that the 2nd-generation TLX would get a hotter version bearing the brand's iconic Type S nomenclature. But the Type S name has a longer history than you might imagine, and we're taking a look at the Type S models that came before the 2021 TLX.
2001-2003 Acura CL Type S
Believe it or not, the Type S name is nearly 2 decades old. The mark was 1st applied to the 2001 Acura CL, and it brought a comprehensive list of upgrades to the coupe. Power from the car's 3.2-liter V-6 (which—no surprise—included the brand's VTEC variable valve timing tech) rose from 225 to 260 horses. Additionally, the CL Type S boasted other sporty bits such as bigger wheels, thicker seat bolsters, and stiffer springs for a more buttoned-down ride.2002-2003 Acura TL Type S
The original CL Type S was accompanied by the launch of the mechanically similar TL Type S one year later. Whereas the CL Type S eventually benefitted from the addition of an available 6-speed manual gearbox and a limited-slip differential, the original TL Type S soldiered on strictly with a 5-speed automatic transmission.2002-2006 Acura RSX Type S
The RSX hatchback also benefitted from the Type S treatment. Opting for the RSX Type S replaced the standard model's 5-speed manual transmission with a 6-speed unit that corralled 200 hp (or 210 on later models) from the car's naturally aspirated 2.0-liter 4-cylinder engine—a noteworthy improvement over the regular RSX's 160 ponies. The Type S also got much thicker anti-roll bars, larger front brakes, and sportier springs and dampers (later models even traded the standard RSX's 16-inch wheels and tires for a set of 17-inchers).2007-2008 Acura TL Type S
The most recent Acura to bear the Type S badge was the 3rd-generation TL. The upgrades were more comprehensive than ever before, too. The TL Type S traded the standard model's 258-hp 3.2-liter V-6 for a bigger 3.5-liter 6-cylinder with 286 horses. The engine mated to either a 5-speed automatic or 6-speed manual transmission. Opting for the manual added a limited-slip differential, too.Additionally, the TL Type S included reworked door sills, a racier front fascia, new taillights, and an exhaust setup with 4 pipes. Dark, multi-spoke wheels covered a set of Brembo front brakes, too.
#4437
#4438
Just last week, Acura unveiled its all-new TLX sedan along with a hotted-up Type S model. Thanks to a newly leaked dealer presentation, we now know what the rest of Acura's lineup will look like for the next couple of years and, fortunately, the TLX won't be the only car to wear the resurrected Type S badge.
Shared to the Acurazine forums is a 52-minute video presentation from the company intended for its dealer network's eyes only. The key takeaway here is Acura's rescheduled goal of hitting 200,000 units in annual sales by 2022. You and I, meanwhile, will likely be much more interested in how Honda's luxury arm will go about doing that.
Showing up at around 37 minutes is a slide that lays out the automaker's product plans, all but confirming the next-gen MDX crossover and a "New Compact Sedan" within two years, both of which will come with Type S versions. While a redesigned MDX was expected and, like the TLX, already had its design leaked almost a year ago now, this "New Compact Sedan" raises some questions. Presumably, it'll be a successor to the long-in-the-tooth ILX but why is Acura not simply referring to it as the "New ILX" here? Also, what is the meaning of the new model being represented in chartreuse green versus the old ILX's school bus yellow? Is the company preparing a compact sedan that trades in the ILX name for one with way more brand cache like, say, Integra?
The presentation also confirms the NSX supercar's presence until at least 2022, while the recently discontinued RLX will indeed stay discontinued. "One model that is obviously absent from this plan: RLX," said Acura Sales Assistant Vice President Mamadou Diallo. "TLX is moving up in size, power, and sophistication. And with SH-AWD available on all trim levels, we are ready to say goodbye to RLX."
While the new TLX Type S's power figures have yet to be announced, Honda R&D boss Toshihiro Mibe also showed up earlier in the webcast to drop this tidbit about the car's new turbocharged V6. "Created for Acura Type S models," (so, presumably not just the TLX) the six-cylinder will apparently "greatly exceed the performance of existing V8 engines."
So, there you have it. Two all-new Acuras within the next two years packing V8-rivaling engines. As the global pandemic continues to rage on, Acura picked one hell of a time to make a comeback and it'll be interesting to see how it all shakes out.
We've reached out to the company for comment and will update this story when we hear back.
Update 9:04 p.m. ET: In an email, an Acura spokesperson told The Drive, "We’ve expressed Acura’s steadfast commitment to Precision Crafted Performance since the launch of the second-generation NSX. While this presentation is intended for Acura dealers and is not all-encompassing or definitive, it does demonstrate that we intend to deliver on that brand promise, step-by-step, starting with the 2021 TLX."
Shared to the Acurazine forums is a 52-minute video presentation from the company intended for its dealer network's eyes only. The key takeaway here is Acura's rescheduled goal of hitting 200,000 units in annual sales by 2022. You and I, meanwhile, will likely be much more interested in how Honda's luxury arm will go about doing that.
Showing up at around 37 minutes is a slide that lays out the automaker's product plans, all but confirming the next-gen MDX crossover and a "New Compact Sedan" within two years, both of which will come with Type S versions. While a redesigned MDX was expected and, like the TLX, already had its design leaked almost a year ago now, this "New Compact Sedan" raises some questions. Presumably, it'll be a successor to the long-in-the-tooth ILX but why is Acura not simply referring to it as the "New ILX" here? Also, what is the meaning of the new model being represented in chartreuse green versus the old ILX's school bus yellow? Is the company preparing a compact sedan that trades in the ILX name for one with way more brand cache like, say, Integra?
The presentation also confirms the NSX supercar's presence until at least 2022, while the recently discontinued RLX will indeed stay discontinued. "One model that is obviously absent from this plan: RLX," said Acura Sales Assistant Vice President Mamadou Diallo. "TLX is moving up in size, power, and sophistication. And with SH-AWD available on all trim levels, we are ready to say goodbye to RLX."
While the new TLX Type S's power figures have yet to be announced, Honda R&D boss Toshihiro Mibe also showed up earlier in the webcast to drop this tidbit about the car's new turbocharged V6. "Created for Acura Type S models," (so, presumably not just the TLX) the six-cylinder will apparently "greatly exceed the performance of existing V8 engines."
So, there you have it. Two all-new Acuras within the next two years packing V8-rivaling engines. As the global pandemic continues to rage on, Acura picked one hell of a time to make a comeback and it'll be interesting to see how it all shakes out.
We've reached out to the company for comment and will update this story when we hear back.
Update 9:04 p.m. ET: In an email, an Acura spokesperson told The Drive, "We’ve expressed Acura’s steadfast commitment to Precision Crafted Performance since the launch of the second-generation NSX. While this presentation is intended for Acura dealers and is not all-encompassing or definitive, it does demonstrate that we intend to deliver on that brand promise, step-by-step, starting with the 2021 TLX."
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