Acura: CSX news **2012 Information (page 7)**
#121
Here is some further CSX info. I found at Canadian Driver....
Acura introduces new Canada-only CSX compact sedan
Toronto, Ontario – Acura has announced its new CSX luxury compact sedan, which will launch nationwide on November 22 at a base price of $25,400. Built in Alliston, Ontario, the model is exclusive to Canada, and replaces the previous Canada-only, entry-level Acura EL.
The CSX offers a 2.0-litre four-cylinder engine with five-speed manual transmission, and optional five-speed automatic transmission with F1-type paddle shifters. The base Touring model includes four-wheel disc brakes, 16-inch alloy wheels, automatic climate control, cloth upholstery, six airbags, drive-by-wire throttle system and CD/MP3 stereo with six speakers. The Premium, which starts at $28,100, adds leather-trimmed interior with heated front seats, power sunroof, high-intensity discharge headlamps and six-CD changer. Adding a navigation system and automatic transmission tops the Premium sedan out at $31,900.
Acura introduces new Canada-only CSX compact sedan
Toronto, Ontario – Acura has announced its new CSX luxury compact sedan, which will launch nationwide on November 22 at a base price of $25,400. Built in Alliston, Ontario, the model is exclusive to Canada, and replaces the previous Canada-only, entry-level Acura EL.
The CSX offers a 2.0-litre four-cylinder engine with five-speed manual transmission, and optional five-speed automatic transmission with F1-type paddle shifters. The base Touring model includes four-wheel disc brakes, 16-inch alloy wheels, automatic climate control, cloth upholstery, six airbags, drive-by-wire throttle system and CD/MP3 stereo with six speakers. The Premium, which starts at $28,100, adds leather-trimmed interior with heated front seats, power sunroof, high-intensity discharge headlamps and six-CD changer. Adding a navigation system and automatic transmission tops the Premium sedan out at $31,900.
#122
I like it. The website is well done too. The price has certainly jumped, but unlike the previous EL, it does distinguish itself from the Civic by using the 2.0L engine, HIDs, and the side mirror turning signals, 6 CD changer, etc.
#123
Originally Posted by TLProspect
Well sorry, you said upscale automakers LIKE Lexus and Infiniti, and last time I checked, Audi is an upscale sutomaker.
...IMHO, Acura (at least stateside) competes more directly with Infiniti and Lexus than Audi. Then again arguably, the CLK500 competes with the GTO.
That Audi wants a Golf in their lineup is an altogether seperate oddity.
#126
Originally Posted by gilboman
any V6 suv or minivan will especially the newer ones will eat the CSX for breakfast. in this day and age of 260hp family cars and minivans, a 155hp civic with paddle shifters needs to stay in the slow lane.
#127
Originally Posted by TSX Hokie
This is a Canada-only vehicle, and I think they use Moosepower up there, not Horsepower. 155 MP is really good.
#130
Originally Posted by SirWaWa
but the reality is its being done
aka tsx and csx
aka tsx and csx
The CSX flash page on acura.ca is really well done!
#131
Originally Posted by youngTL
And Honda is laughing all the way to the bank too.
The CSX flash page on acura.ca is really well done!
The CSX flash page on acura.ca is really well done!
#133
Originally Posted by youngTL
MSZ is right, they don't. I hardly see ANY here. You're lucky to see an ES330. Fat chance seeing an LS430. And you can forget about seeing a brand new 7-series BMW. Most BMW's here are 325i. I've seen a few G35x sedans, but I saw more TL's and quite a few TSX, and a million EL's .
#134
Originally Posted by gilboman
bah...you gotta come to the center of the universe of TO, especially the GTA where lexus/MB/Audi/BMW are the norm
Gilbo, I was in San Franscisco a few weeks ago and saw far more BMW's than I ever do here. Not that there aren't alot of 3 series around but it seemed the only car they sell in Cali are 5 and 3 series.
#135
Originally Posted by MSZ
I don't think so. Honda/Acura OWNED the Canadian market.
Thats one of the main reason we don't have Scion here.
Thats one of the main reason we don't have Scion here.
toyota/lexus outsells honda/acura in canada
even with the new civic, in october 2005 toyota/lexus outsells honda/acura
Honda/Acura 13,579 10,821 +25.5
Toyota/Lexus 14,709 13,805 + 6.5
first number is this year's oct, and second is last year's. as you can see, honda got a nice boost from the new civic but still is behind toyota. if you look at last year, toyota sells about 30% more
we don't have the scion here because toyota can't keep up with demand in the states, so selling canada makes no sense when they can't make enough cars to sell
#136
Originally Posted by dom
Gilbo, I was in San Franscisco a few weeks ago and saw far more BMW's than I ever do here. Not that there aren't alot of 3 series around but it seemed the only car they sell in Cali are 5 and 3 series.
#137
Originally Posted by gilboman
what have you been smoking? bad weed
toyota/lexus outsells honda/acura in canada
even with the new civic, in october 2005 toyota/lexus outsells honda/acura
Honda/Acura 13,579 10,821 +25.5
Toyota/Lexus 14,709 13,805 + 6.5
first number is this year's oct, and second is last year's. as you can see, honda got a nice boost from the new civic but still is behind toyota. if you look at last year, toyota sells about 30% more
we don't have the scion here because toyota can't keep up with demand in the states, so selling canada makes no sense when they can't make enough cars to sell
toyota/lexus outsells honda/acura in canada
even with the new civic, in october 2005 toyota/lexus outsells honda/acura
Honda/Acura 13,579 10,821 +25.5
Toyota/Lexus 14,709 13,805 + 6.5
first number is this year's oct, and second is last year's. as you can see, honda got a nice boost from the new civic but still is behind toyota. if you look at last year, toyota sells about 30% more
we don't have the scion here because toyota can't keep up with demand in the states, so selling canada makes no sense when they can't make enough cars to sell
Oct 2005
Acura 1,850
Lexus 989
YTD 2005
Acura 18.257
Lexus 8,059
#138
Originally Posted by dom
Gilbo you do realize the Acura handling outsells Lexus in Canada right? Although EL plays a large part in that.
Oct 2005
Acura 1,850
Lexus 989
YTD 2005
Acura 18.257
Lexus 8,059
Oct 2005
Acura 1,850
Lexus 989
YTD 2005
Acura 18.257
Lexus 8,059
but the other poster was saying honda/acura outsells toytoa/lexus which is insane and doesnt realize the scion is selling so well that toyota doesnt have enough capacity to meet the US market let alone canadian.
Last edited by gilboman; 11-18-2005 at 11:45 AM.
#139
Originally Posted by gilboman
yes i do realize that thanks to the civic/EL and the general lower income of canadians, acura does very well since their cars are more suited to the lower end of the luxury spectrum
but the other poster was saying honda/acura outsells toytoa/lexus which is insane
but the other poster was saying honda/acura outsells toytoa/lexus which is insane
It actually used to be alot closer. I think Honda actually outsold Toyota in Canada 4 to 5 years ago (probly more) Then Toyota just went nuts with lots of trucks and things changed.
#140
Originally Posted by gilboman
yes i do realize that thanks to the civic/EL and the general lower income of canadians, acura does very well since their cars are more suited to the lower end of the luxury spectrum
#141
Originally Posted by gilboman
but the other poster was saying honda/acura outsells toytoa/lexus which is insane and doesnt realize the scion is selling so well that toyota doesnt have enough capacity to meet the US market let alone canadian.
Until Scion tC outsells Civic coupe in the states(which will not happen in our lifetime) we will never see Scion in Canada.
Wake the hell up, gilboman.
#142
Originally Posted by MSZ
Thats load of BS, the ONLY reason why they don't bring Scion here because they can't afford to have another low volume brand in Canada. Just like what Lexus is doing right now, the wealthy Canadians never consider the Japanese luxury brands. And the other people who got lower incomes(myself included)would look at cheaper luxury cars like Acura and Infiniti first.
Until Scion tC outsells Civic coupe in the states(which will not happen in our lifetime) we will never see Scion in Canada.
Wake the hell up, gilboman.
Until Scion tC outsells Civic coupe in the states(which will not happen in our lifetime) we will never see Scion in Canada.
Wake the hell up, gilboman.
#143
Originally Posted by gilboman
uh huh... you do know that scion sells around 70,000 scion tC a year in the states?
#144
Originally Posted by MSZ
Compare to 300k Civics a year? Man I shouldn't even waste any of my time in this thread.
#145
Originally Posted by MSZ
Thats load of BS, the ONLY reason why they don't bring Scion here because they can't afford to have another low volume brand in Canada. Just like what Lexus is doing right now, the wealthy Canadians never consider the Japanese luxury brands. And the other people who got lower incomes(myself included)would look at cheaper luxury cars like Acura and Infiniti first.
Until Scion tC outsells Civic coupe in the states(which will not happen in our lifetime) we will never see Scion in Canada.
Wake the hell up, gilboman.
Until Scion tC outsells Civic coupe in the states(which will not happen in our lifetime) we will never see Scion in Canada.
Wake the hell up, gilboman.
Considering how popular affordable/smaller cars like the civic are in Canada it would seem like a logical step that Toyota would be introducing them in the future. They really have nothing to lose by doing it.
#146
I just found out that the K20 in the CSX has an additional 2 balance shafts over the K20 in the RSX.
http://www.canada.com/national/natio...8-02b04eee749e
http://www.canada.com/national/natio...8-02b04eee749e
#147
Originally Posted by heyitsme
Why would a lower income person look at Acura and Infiniti but not Scion? If it were me, starting out, a luxury brand wouldn't be on the list. Scions affordability matched with its quality and high feature content makes it a practical choice.
Considering how popular affordable/smaller cars like the civic are in Canada it would seem like a logical step that Toyota would be introducing them in the future. They really have nothing to lose by doing it.
Considering how popular affordable/smaller cars like the civic are in Canada it would seem like a logical step that Toyota would be introducing them in the future. They really have nothing to lose by doing it.
#148
Originally Posted by MSZ
Compare to 300k Civics a year? Man I shouldn't even waste any of my time in this thread.
and i proved you wrong in the reason the scion is not sold in canada
you give all honda owners a bad name for being ignorant of the facts and give totally baseless insight.
toyota don't have enough capacity for scion and is looking to build them in a new plant (originally cambridge expansion, but that is now going to build other models, one of the reason why toyota bought share of subaru is to tap into their existing capacity)
here everybody in the business world and car community is aware of toyota's growth and you come here saying that toyota's poor sales is reason why a model is not avilable in canada when it can't be any further from the truth.
Last edited by gilboman; 11-19-2005 at 12:52 AM.
#149
Originally Posted by gilboman
you said civic coupe. yes you should go away and not waste other's time in this thread since it's blatantly clear that toyota corolla/scion tc outsell the civic by a wide margin.
and i proved you wrong in the reason the scion is not sold in canada
you give all honda owners a bad name for being ignorant of the facts and give totally baseless insight.
toyota don't have enough capacity for scion and is looking to build them in a new plant (originally cambridge expansion, but that is now going to build other models, one of the reason why toyota bought share of subaru is to tap into their existing capacity)
here everybody in the business world and car community is aware of toyota's growth and you come here saying that toyota's poor sales is reason why a model is not avilable in canada when it can't be any further from the truth.
and i proved you wrong in the reason the scion is not sold in canada
you give all honda owners a bad name for being ignorant of the facts and give totally baseless insight.
toyota don't have enough capacity for scion and is looking to build them in a new plant (originally cambridge expansion, but that is now going to build other models, one of the reason why toyota bought share of subaru is to tap into their existing capacity)
here everybody in the business world and car community is aware of toyota's growth and you come here saying that toyota's poor sales is reason why a model is not avilable in canada when it can't be any further from the truth.
Since when tC and Corolla became the same car? They didn't put them together is their sales chart. They did put Corolla, Martix together as the "Corolla series" to make the numbers looked better than the Civic. Thats a FACT and everyone here knows it. (292,296 "Corolla series" vs 257,749 Civic so far in 2005, that doesn't really mean a damn thing. The gutless Toyota should post some real soild numbers instead of putting different cars together into the same line.)
Civic outsells ALL OTHER cars in Canada 5 years in a row, included Corolla and Camry. (Mind you gilbo, EL wasn't included.) Toyota knows that better and anyone else, they will never bring Scion up here.
#150
And yea, everyone should read this:
http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jc/compact2.htm
61,041 vs 44,563
Go back to club lexus now gilbo. You won't find any Toyota/Lexus/Scion love here at all.
http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jc/compact2.htm
61,041 vs 44,563
Go back to club lexus now gilbo. You won't find any Toyota/Lexus/Scion love here at all.
#151
Originally Posted by MSZ
And yea, everyone should read this:
http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jc/compact2.htm
61,041 vs 44,563
Go back to club lexus now gilbo. You won't find any Toyota/Lexus/Scion love here at all.
http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jc/compact2.htm
61,041 vs 44,563
Go back to club lexus now gilbo. You won't find any Toyota/Lexus/Scion love here at all.
#152
Originally Posted by MSZ
And yea, everyone should read this:
http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jc/compact2.htm
61,041 vs 44,563
Go back to club lexus now gilbo. You won't find any Toyota/Lexus/Scion love here at all.
http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jc/compact2.htm
61,041 vs 44,563
Go back to club lexus now gilbo. You won't find any Toyota/Lexus/Scion love here at all.
#153
Originally Posted by MSZ
You have yet to post some real number to prove me wrong, dom already did so to prove you wrong.
Since when tC and Corolla became the same car? They didn't put them together is their sales chart. They did put Corolla, Martix together as the "Corolla series" to make the numbers looked better than the Civic. Thats a FACT and everyone here knows it. (292,296 "Corolla series" vs 257,749 Civic so far in 2005, that doesn't really mean a damn thing. The gutless Toyota should post some real soild numbers instead of putting different cars together into the same line.)
Civic outsells ALL OTHER cars in Canada 5 years in a row, included Corolla and Camry. (Mind you gilbo, EL wasn't included.) Toyota knows that better and anyone else, they will never bring Scion up here.
Since when tC and Corolla became the same car? They didn't put them together is their sales chart. They did put Corolla, Martix together as the "Corolla series" to make the numbers looked better than the Civic. Thats a FACT and everyone here knows it. (292,296 "Corolla series" vs 257,749 Civic so far in 2005, that doesn't really mean a damn thing. The gutless Toyota should post some real soild numbers instead of putting different cars together into the same line.)
Civic outsells ALL OTHER cars in Canada 5 years in a row, included Corolla and Camry. (Mind you gilbo, EL wasn't included.) Toyota knows that better and anyone else, they will never bring Scion up here.
the matrix is the Corolla matrix because it's the wagon version of the corolla. so are you saying honda makes civic numbers look better because they lump the sedan and coupe?
#154
Originally Posted by MSZ
Until Scion tC outsells Civic coupe in the states(which will not happen in our lifetime) we will never see Scion in Canada.
Wake the hell up, gilboman.
Wake the hell up, gilboman.
#155
MSZ seems to just make up stuff or forget stuff when he can't back up what he says. he says civic coupe outsells scion tC in states, he can't back it up so he posts civic sedan and coupe sales in another country
if a small car nameplate like scion can do so well in biggie size america, in canada it would do even better. which is why the best selling car in america is the camry, while in canada it's the civic. and the echo sells so well in canada and canada gets the Smart car instead of US. Canadians buy smaller cars, Scion sells smaller cars and is very sucessful in the US, it's common sense that in an even more suited market in Canada it'll do well too.
only problem as analysts and I have pointed out is that toyota don't have enough capacity to build it since they are growing faster than plant capacity basically
if a small car nameplate like scion can do so well in biggie size america, in canada it would do even better. which is why the best selling car in america is the camry, while in canada it's the civic. and the echo sells so well in canada and canada gets the Smart car instead of US. Canadians buy smaller cars, Scion sells smaller cars and is very sucessful in the US, it's common sense that in an even more suited market in Canada it'll do well too.
only problem as analysts and I have pointed out is that toyota don't have enough capacity to build it since they are growing faster than plant capacity basically
#157
Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
wow gilbo is back
next thing you know, he's gonna say his dad is stronger than mine and when he can't prove it, he post a pic of arnold and say that guy is stronger than my dad and he's proved his point
#159
the matrix is the Corolla matrix because it's the wagon version of the corolla. so are you saying honda makes civic numbers look better because they lump the sedan and coupe?
you said in the US..since when did canadian driver publish US numbers? do you even bother reading what you posted
1sicklex and you would make a lovely couple.
#160
Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
wow gilbo is back
Guess what, this underpowered CSX will destory all Lexus sales in Canada too.