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totally stock...248whp, 278 torque at wheels

that's like 290hp at crank and 330lb/ft at crank..
, this is just sick... this may just get me to consider a neon

 

It's true. That car's WAY underrated.

 

What a Dodge Neon instead of a Bimmer???

You will never be happy Gilboman, will you.

The neon is a POS, and here you are bashing the TL. You might as well strap a V-8 on to a tin can and drive it, where is your head man, you obvisly dont know what you want and will bash anything and everything that people like.

Dont crash that neon, because there will be nothing left.

 

Well - that neon may be a cheap piece of junk, but

You have GOT to bow down to those kind of numbers !!

That thing is gotta surprise a lot of muscle cars ... maybe

 

did you notice the there?? i may never buy/drive a neon..but dont call it a pos..it will tear you a new ahole in all performance category including handling and braking.... give respect where respect is due....

 

Maybe if I was 18 again, I'd consider driving one. But no way in hell would I be caught dead in a Neon these days. I don't care if it does a 12 sec 1/4 mile.

But yes it has my respect.

 

exactly..but since the acura owners here are all so value concious... this is the ultimate bang for the buck in performance/dollar... i wouldnt drive a neon either..but i woiuldnt mind having that engine

 

I was just thinking the same .... drop that puppy in the TSX chasis/interior/exterior design and you have a SWEEEET car

 

Respect given, I did for about a day, think of the Neon for pure bang for the buck (Car&Driver comparison when they also tested the euros, ie S4, M3, M5, RS6, AMG).

But I saw one on the road, and it was a little young for me.

But you are right, it is a hell of car

 

"it's still a neon"

 

Goes to show you ...

Anyone can take a POS engine and turbo it.

 

Well the Neon ain't trying to be a luxury anything, they know and we know it is basic transportation so making it a hot-rod is quite an old trick and should be commended.

I find it to be an amazing accomplishment for Dodge and for 20k makes any Civic or Sentra an overpriced Performance (SI/SE-R) puzzle.

 

Hang on a sec guys...this has got to be BS.


I am seeing the specs on the srt-4 as Horsepower Of 215@5400 and Torque Of 245@3200. Sure its possible that the numbers are underated, but not by THAT MUCH...come on!

 

Fine, we all respect the Neon. Great performance. Great value. Dodge accomplished something.

But what about QUALITY? The SRT makes Civics and Sentras seem overpriced but which will LAST?
Which will spend much less time in the shop?
Which will be worth something in three years?

I'm sticking to what works.

 

Cough cough, failing tranny, 100k warrenty extension, recall, rattles, thing paint, stolen headlights, etc etc....

Can't use the quality argument anymore.

 

I like how "stolen headlights" you group in "quality".

 

Whatever. But that dyno is still BS.

 

shocking that the SRT-4 neon has that much power...wonder why ppl still buy the 330 for twice as much for less power...must be the performance factor

 

My 17 year-old brother just bought one of these things.....

HOLY SHIT THERE FAST AS F^CK!!!

ill agree, they look like shit from the outside, but inside there NOT that bad.....the boost gauge is sooooooo sick!! plus, the '04's now have LSD!

he got a black one, im posting pics this weekend of my car and i will post some of his also
its black, and has red calipers. he just put in an alpine radio, with all new speakers.

SO FAST!!!!!!!!!!

 

Bottom line = not a daily driver.

 

Great value. Not for me.

 

that dyno is accurate from everything i've heard..people dyno'd them as soon as they came out and found out they were way underrated. They are fast... but would be much faster if they were awd or rwd... fwd just isn't great for traction with that much torque. Good to hear that they put an lsd in the new ones.

It's a car that was never on my radar...I wanted a bit of luxury, but i'm sure the people that got them just want to go fast so I can't fault their decision one bit.

 

I'd get one for auto-x but I'd like to see some more dynos before I accept those numbers.

 

all he knows is to bash honda/acura for any reason cuz toyota is freakin GOD.

 

Why would they underate it by THAT MUCH. It just doesnt make any sense to me. A 300 hp car rated at 215 hp? Its just silly.

 

fdl, I know it still does'nt explain the huge gap in HP, but 215HP was the 03's rating. The 04's are rated at 230HP with the same 245 lb/ft. But like Tinky mentioned the 04's added an LSD.

The 03's from what I remember were being dynoed at 225 or so HP. So 225 + the added 15HP = 240HP.

 

Maybe if it had power rear windows

 

yup..the 03's were fastly underrated...so with 225whp..which is almost like 260 crank hp..this year it got upgraded injectors and a few other goodies in addition to the LSD..so it seems legit.....are they available in canada?? i didnt think so..but if they were i would take a test drive for sure

 

Yes they are available in Canada. Price is $26,950 and thats for the 04's with the LSD. 03's were not available in Canada.

The 3 Dodge dealers that I've passed by recently all had silver SR-T 4's sitting outside. Which means there in stock and ready to go. I'm not sure they're selling that well to be honest as I've yet to see one on the road.

I've actaully entered a contest to win one at dodge.ca. If I win it I'll give it to you Gilbo.....after I kick the living S%$T out of it

 

based on what ive heard from people who work for Chrysler this SRT4 is actually built very well and is unlike any other neon.

they put great care into this car... dont hate just cuz of its nameplate.

and ive gotta agree with 1SICKLEX for most part... Acuras are not the holy grail of quality any more. Though i certainly think their better then most Chryslers. But I dont think Lexus is all that in quality either these days. heh

 

thanks but what you should do is swap the engine and brakes in your tsx, add a LSD...voila...SRT-4 performance and people wont use the its a pos neon comeback at you after you hand them their arse

 

the rsx-s cybernations turbo kit puts out 300whp/200 lbft of torque. Of course there's no warranty but i'd love to see that kit modified for the tsx...sweeeeet.

 

If it does come out .... I will do it if you do it first Of course, they would have to slap in a real man's tranny for you

 

That would be hot!

 

I was reading somewhere on a SRT-4 forum that the car does only around 10 miles per gallon when driven hard... That's in the Hummer H1 gas comsumption range!

I think that the car may be a big hit in the states but I doubt it will have the same appeal in Canada (280HP in SNOW?????)

just my 2 cents

 

It's true. Part of the idea of strapping a turbo on your engine is so that you can shove more gas in each cylinder per power stroke. (In case anyone's interested, the other part is that it eliminates pumping losses and turns them into gains, thus raising volumetric efficiency).

 

not sure where you are from, but in Toronto, in all honesty...we only get meaningful snowfall for about 3-4 months and maybe a couple of big snow storms during that span...most of the time its dry in winter......Although i dont think the SRT-4 will sell as well here, i dont think its because of the snow.....besides..nothing wrong with 280hp in snow... most of the luxury cars are way past that now anyways.

 

I'm from Montreal...

It's not only the 280HP that may be problematic. It's a combination of suspension (very stiff), a lower ground clearance (probably lower than the regular Neon) and finally the fact that car probably has wider tires (which can be fixed). If the car came without LSD, the amount of power by itself may have been an issue (harder to control launch on wet pavement).

There is also the fact that the transmission used on the SRT-4 (New Venture NVT 850) seems very very very stiff in cold wheather. I saw a good amount of posts regarding how hard it is to shift through gears when the car is running cold (imagine at -20).