GhettoNinja06

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So, I was planning to pick up a set of Alpine Type-R 6.5s, Alpine Type-R 6x9s, and a Alpine Type-R sub Till I noticed that the Alpine Type-R 6x9s are Coaxial! I need component and the rest of the set is component so why are the 6x9s Coaxial??? I know the Type-S 6x9s are component but I really want a matching set of all Type-Rs!
Can someone shine some light on my wtf question?

wong05tsx

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Components vs coaxials
http://www.caraudiohelp.com/newslett...components.htm

GhettoNinja06

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Ohhhh! I thought that Component and Coaxial was referring to the plugs. I was thinking Video wise. Why the hell did they use the same names for a completely different purpose?!? Confused the shit out of me. So all speakers have the same plugs right? (RCA)

wong05tsx

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speakers are connected via speaker wire aka copper to amp or HU

Headunit to amp (if applicable) is connected via RCA's

jlukja

You should wait for HDMI 1.3 speakers.

GhettoNinja06

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Alright, got it. One more question, Since I am getting an entire Alpine Type-R system (front, rear, hu, and amp) I was thinking of getting the 12" Type-R sub. The problem is that I hear such great things about the JL Audio 12w3. Which sub should I go for? I would love to keep the Type-R thing going but if the 12w3 is noticeably better then the Type-R then I'll get the 12w3.

wong05tsx

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Type R is a nice entry level budget SPL sub. the W3 should sound better, but not get as loud.
By the way, don't get your subs from best buys or c.c. they will rape you. You can easily find a used (occasionally new) type-r's online for ~80-100$ shipped.

W3 should be good on 300-500watts, the Type-R is fine on 500 (rated at 500), but I saw it shine when I threw 1000watts at it (it can handle it, as long as it's clean power)

Don't know what your budget is.. but maybe...
12" Fi Q
12" RE SE
12" IDMax
12" SI Mag

just throwin somethin out there..

GhettoNinja06

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Thanks for the input! I was worried that the W3 was allot louder than the Type-R.
Now, I have one more choice...

12" Alpine Type-R 4ohm w/ Alpine 700 watt amp (500 watts @ 4ohms)
or
12" Alpine Type-R 2ohm w/ Alpine 500 watt amp (doesn't matter @ 4ohms) [cheaper]

Also, The Alpine Type-R is a dual voice coil sub. Dose that mean I need a 2-channel amp?

BTW, Found em' for $100 on amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...123P7WJRYS9F9J -2ohm
http://www.amazon.com/Alpine-SWR-124.../dp/B0009NXN7K -4ohm

wong05tsx

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might be able to get mor epower for the money if you wire them to two ohm, in which you'll need to get the dual 4ohm voicecoil configeration type R.

What amps are those? Some amps are underrated.
A hifonics brutus 1607d(?) i believe could be had for pretty cheap

GhettoNinja06

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naw dude. The 2ohm ones cuz its 250 watts per 2ohm voice coil. 500 watts total for the 2ohm one. I wanted to know if It will sound the same.

12" Alpine Type-R 4ohm w/ Alpine 700 watt amp (500 watts @ 4ohms)
or
12" Alpine Type-R 2ohm w/ Alpine 500 watt amp (doesn't matter @ 4ohms) [cheaper]

Do both setups sound the same? I want to squeeze the most power per $. I want money left over for a lip and wing.

wong05tsx

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can't say when you don't tell us what amp they are. Some amps are overrated, some are underrated..

A sundown 1500d is rated 1500w @ 1ohm, but since it's underrated, realistically, it puts out 1950ish. See where i'm going with this?

I'm saying, from the info you're giving me. (500 watts @ 4ohms)
Generally, a 4ohm stable amp, SHOULD (please see specs) be 2ohm stable.
500 watts @ 4ohm amps, should be able to put out close to 750-800w @ 2ohms, but then again, it'd really help if you provided amp names/specs

Therefore, why do this (since you havn't ordered the sub yet), and get 500w out of your amp

When you can be doing this, and utilize the amp some more


That is, unless your amp is 1ohm stable, in which a Dual 4 would be nice, since you would have to option of going to 1ohm.

GhettoNinja06

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ok, here is the specs for the amp. http://www.alpine-usa.com/US-en/prod...&lang=en&tab=F
I think it is only 2 or 4ohm stable.

wong05tsx

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and what was the other amp you were talking about? (doesn't matter @ 4ohms) [cheaper]

You could be pulling 600w from that alpine amp if you get the Dual 4ohm driver and wire it to 2ohm.

If you get the Dual 2ohm, you'd only be able to run it at 4ohm, getting 400w out of the amp, since it's not 1ohm stable

GhettoNinja06

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ok, I see where your coming from. So I can get the dual 4ohm drivers and wire it 2ohm with a 600w amp @ 600w 2ohm. But if I get the dual 2ohm drivers, I can only wire it to 4ohms with a 600w amp @ 400w 4ohm. So how do I hook this up wit a 600w mono amp and the dual 4ohm sub?

wong05tsx

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Most amps are internally bridged;
There should be 2 + and 2 - speaker wire connections on the amp
+ + - -

Connecting the far end + and - should bridge it, check your manual.

loojoohnnyl

bottom line is that if you have 1 sub than get a 4ohm than you can wire down to 2 ohm on ur amp and if ur running 2 sub than get a 2 ohm sub running at 4 ohm on the amp. i duno but that how i think off it.

97BlackAckCL

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This is what I recommended in his other thread