View Poll Results: which sub
JL AUDIO 10"w7
7
100.00%
MTX AUDIO 10" 9500
0
0%
Voters: 7. You may not vote on this poll

CL: which sub?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 01:08 AM
  #1  
cu0ngsayz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Pro
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 692
Likes: 26
From: Houston, TX
which sub?

so which sub would you guys prefer for more bass? 10"w7 OR 10" mtx 9500
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 11:23 AM
  #2  
fourthmeal's Avatar
Pro
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 572
Likes: 5
Though if given the opportunity, I would choose neither. There are better subs for less, and one must also contend with the fact that these subs are MASSIVE and power hungry, so significant thought must be given to the front stage, processing, amplification, deadening, etc. The sub alone is just a small player. What is the box? The BOX matters more than the sub, and all those things mentioned above matter more than the sub as well.
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 12:18 PM
  #3  
cu0ngsayz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Pro
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 692
Likes: 26
From: Houston, TX
Originally Posted by fourthmeal
Though if given the opportunity, I would choose neither. There are better subs for less, and one must also contend with the fact that these subs are MASSIVE and power hungry, so significant thought must be given to the front stage, processing, amplification, deadening, etc. The sub alone is just a small player. What is the box? The BOX matters more than the sub, and all those things mentioned above matter more than the sub as well.
well... the box is built to specs, the amp i have is a kicker 750.1.. i just want more bang in the trunk i have a RF T1 right now..
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 12:50 PM
  #4  
eggyhustles's Avatar
Drifting
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,630
Likes: 45
From: Bronx, NY
if i had to pick between the 2, the w7
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 02:42 PM
  #5  
fourthmeal's Avatar
Pro
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 572
Likes: 5
Originally Posted by cu0ngsayz
well... the box is built to specs, the amp i have is a kicker 750.1.. i just want more bang in the trunk i have a RF T1 right now..

Built to WHAT spec? The MTX and W7 do not have the same specs. So, ...
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 02:45 PM
  #6  
justnspace's Avatar
Moderator
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 86,293
Likes: 16,291
I think he meant he has his box built to the rockford fosgate T1 specs.
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 03:19 PM
  #7  
cu0ngsayz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Pro
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 692
Likes: 26
From: Houston, TX
No built to the 9500 spec..... I have a t1 right now in a box too but want something diff...what do you guys prefer
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 03:47 PM
  #8  
fourthmeal's Avatar
Pro
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 572
Likes: 5
Gotcha. Well what does the T1 not do that you want to improve on? Be specific as you can, the T1 might just need some tuning or other adjustment. What is missing that you'd like to see?
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 04:47 PM
  #9  
cu0ngsayz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Pro
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 692
Likes: 26
From: Houston, TX
Originally Posted by fourthmeal
Gotcha. Well what does the T1 not do that you want to improve on? Be specific as you can, the T1 might just need some tuning or other adjustment. What is missing that you'd like to see?
damn so i was looking at the RF site and i dont think i have the right box for the T1..
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 05:12 PM
  #10  
cu0ngsayz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Pro
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 692
Likes: 26
From: Houston, TX
I would like more bang in the trunk.....
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 07:34 PM
  #11  
fourthmeal's Avatar
Pro
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 572
Likes: 5
Here's what I mean by specific:

(examples)
Does the system seem to have a hole in the response curve?

Does the bass have a problem integrating with the front stage?

Are they out of sync or does the bass seem to clearly be coming from the trunk and not all around?

Do some songs sound a lot more visceral and punchy than others on your system, yet on a home system or on earphones they all sound good? (This indicates cancellation effects are present, killing some of the frequencies' response)



There is a great chance that just by optimizing the T1 in the right box (I'm thinking low tuned ported), and with a little tweaking, you will get a lot more out of what you have. THEN, you can take the money and appropriately build up a front stage (which I haven't heard squat about from you) or get a processor and handle things in a new, much more precise way.

A lot of systems I fix up for others just have a ton of bass, but what people really are wanting is vastly improved mid-bass. And that's not coming out of the trunk, or at least it better not be.


I think once you exhaust everything your current sub can do (with the right box), then consider upgrading your sub.
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 08:08 PM
  #12  
on1wheel01's Avatar
Three Wheelin'
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,942
Likes: 11
From: Mooresville NC
Nice info fm. Yea and by built to spec do you mean it's a store bought box or you actually found a builder and had it made? All of those subs are nay in my book. But of the listed the dub 7. But youd never catch one in my cars./ thread
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 10:38 PM
  #13  
eggyhustles's Avatar
Drifting
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,630
Likes: 45
From: Bronx, NY
I never understood you, on1

how could you bad mouth the w7 but support shit companies like audioque?

Is the w7 overpriced? sure...but IT IS a nice sub.
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 10:55 PM
  #14  
friesm2000's Avatar
B A N N E D
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 8,502
Likes: 15
From: Colorado
i voted JL, i have had a couple of POS MTX's go out on me before
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2010 | 02:36 PM
  #15  
cu0ngsayz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Pro
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 692
Likes: 26
From: Houston, TX
sorry guys im not really into the whole 9 yards of the stereo bible so idk what you tell you hahah but thanks for your help anyways
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2010 | 03:10 PM
  #16  
fourthmeal's Avatar
Pro
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 572
Likes: 5
short version: Get a box made for the T1 that is tuned low ported (my guess is 28hz would rock), and use the money saved and spend it where it really matters, which is up front, where you can actually hear music.
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2010 | 07:24 PM
  #17  
on1wheel01's Avatar
Three Wheelin'
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,942
Likes: 11
From: Mooresville NC
Originally Posted by eggyhustles
I never understood you, on1

how could you bad mouth the w7 but support shit companies like audioque?

Is the w7 overpriced? sure...but IT IS a nice sub.
I've never supported aq. I like sundown fi dd dc and others
Reply
Old Oct 22, 2010 | 05:19 PM
  #18  
Jimmay's Avatar
Racer
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 494
Likes: 12
From: oak lawn
Originally Posted by eggyhustles
I never understood you, on1

how could you bad mouth the w7 but support shit companies like audioque?

Is the w7 overpriced? sure...but IT IS a nice sub.
whats wrong with aq?
Reply
Old Oct 22, 2010 | 07:35 PM
  #19  
eggyhustles's Avatar
Drifting
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,630
Likes: 45
From: Bronx, NY
Originally Posted by on1wheel01
I've never supported aq. I like sundown fi dd dc and others
DD and AQ are pretty much the same company.

Originally Posted by Jimmay
whats wrong with aq?
Think their subs sound like crap.
Reply
Old Oct 22, 2010 | 11:15 PM
  #20  
on1wheel01's Avatar
Three Wheelin'
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,942
Likes: 11
From: Mooresville NC
Being pretty much and being the same are different. I've had a few of the older dd subs and they sounded great.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:07 PM.