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Old 10-20-2010, 01:08 AM
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which sub?

so which sub would you guys prefer for more bass? 10"w7 OR 10" mtx 9500
Old 10-20-2010, 11:23 AM
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Though if given the opportunity, I would choose neither. There are better subs for less, and one must also contend with the fact that these subs are MASSIVE and power hungry, so significant thought must be given to the front stage, processing, amplification, deadening, etc. The sub alone is just a small player. What is the box? The BOX matters more than the sub, and all those things mentioned above matter more than the sub as well.
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Originally Posted by fourthmeal
Though if given the opportunity, I would choose neither. There are better subs for less, and one must also contend with the fact that these subs are MASSIVE and power hungry, so significant thought must be given to the front stage, processing, amplification, deadening, etc. The sub alone is just a small player. What is the box? The BOX matters more than the sub, and all those things mentioned above matter more than the sub as well.
well... the box is built to specs, the amp i have is a kicker 750.1.. i just want more bang in the trunk i have a RF T1 right now..
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if i had to pick between the 2, the w7
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Originally Posted by cu0ngsayz
well... the box is built to specs, the amp i have is a kicker 750.1.. i just want more bang in the trunk i have a RF T1 right now..

Built to WHAT spec? The MTX and W7 do not have the same specs. So, ...
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I think he meant he has his box built to the rockford fosgate T1 specs.
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No built to the 9500 spec..... I have a t1 right now in a box too but want something diff...what do you guys prefer
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Gotcha. Well what does the T1 not do that you want to improve on? Be specific as you can, the T1 might just need some tuning or other adjustment. What is missing that you'd like to see?
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Gotcha. Well what does the T1 not do that you want to improve on? Be specific as you can, the T1 might just need some tuning or other adjustment. What is missing that you'd like to see?
damn so i was looking at the RF site and i dont think i have the right box for the T1..
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I would like more bang in the trunk.....
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Here's what I mean by specific:

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Does the system seem to have a hole in the response curve?

Does the bass have a problem integrating with the front stage?

Are they out of sync or does the bass seem to clearly be coming from the trunk and not all around?

Do some songs sound a lot more visceral and punchy than others on your system, yet on a home system or on earphones they all sound good? (This indicates cancellation effects are present, killing some of the frequencies' response)



There is a great chance that just by optimizing the T1 in the right box (I'm thinking low tuned ported), and with a little tweaking, you will get a lot more out of what you have. THEN, you can take the money and appropriately build up a front stage (which I haven't heard squat about from you) or get a processor and handle things in a new, much more precise way.

A lot of systems I fix up for others just have a ton of bass, but what people really are wanting is vastly improved mid-bass. And that's not coming out of the trunk, or at least it better not be.


I think once you exhaust everything your current sub can do (with the right box), then consider upgrading your sub.
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Nice info fm. Yea and by built to spec do you mean it's a store bought box or you actually found a builder and had it made? All of those subs are nay in my book. But of the listed the dub 7. But youd never catch one in my cars./ thread
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I never understood you, on1

how could you bad mouth the w7 but support shit companies like audioque?

Is the w7 overpriced? sure...but IT IS a nice sub.
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i voted JL, i have had a couple of POS MTX's go out on me before
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sorry guys im not really into the whole 9 yards of the stereo bible so idk what you tell you hahah but thanks for your help anyways
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short version: Get a box made for the T1 that is tuned low ported (my guess is 28hz would rock), and use the money saved and spend it where it really matters, which is up front, where you can actually hear music.
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Originally Posted by eggyhustles
I never understood you, on1

how could you bad mouth the w7 but support shit companies like audioque?

Is the w7 overpriced? sure...but IT IS a nice sub.
I've never supported aq. I like sundown fi dd dc and others
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Originally Posted by eggyhustles
I never understood you, on1

how could you bad mouth the w7 but support shit companies like audioque?

Is the w7 overpriced? sure...but IT IS a nice sub.
whats wrong with aq?
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I've never supported aq. I like sundown fi dd dc and others
DD and AQ are pretty much the same company.

Originally Posted by Jimmay
whats wrong with aq?
Think their subs sound like crap.
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Being pretty much and being the same are different. I've had a few of the older dd subs and they sounded great.




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