So I'm moving to a sketchy area of town by Turner Field in Atlanta. It will be a cold day in hell before I let some crackhead try to mess with my car and house for 20 bucks so they can get a crack rock. Bastards already stole the copper pipes and A/C units out of my new house (I bought it AS-IS, but I have that taken care of, and it won't happen again). I've got my car parking situation under control, and it will be right in front of the house. If I hear my window get popped out I will come out guns blazing and beat the hell out of someone, but the whole objective is to PREVENT them from breaking the window.

I want to get a proximity sensor and add that onto the stock alarm. I will interrupt the flow of power with a switch, so I can disable the sensor when I'm somewhere like a grocery store or whatever. I just want it on at night. I searched but came up with nothing. I see a bunch on ebay, but I'm not really sure what will work.

Can someone who knows about these things chime in and tell me what I should get? I'll even get two for dual protection if I can. One for the back and front. I'm serious about protecting my shit. I may be a scrawny little white boy in the hood, but I will go buck wild on some crackhead who messes with my shit.

For those that think I should have purchased elsewhere, well, the deal was fantastic, I love the area, and I will double my money and pay of my student loans! It's worth it. I just have to take a couple of precautions.

Thanks Y'all!

 

Honestly i would get a aftermarket alarm. It will give you far superior protection.

 

looking for a roommate? no homo

 

I don't care about any of the other stuff, and I really like the stock setup. I think the only thing that would be beneficial to me is a prox sensor, and if I can get away with adding it to the stock setup for 50 or 100 bucks, rather then spending 4-500 on a new alarm, I'd rather do that!

lol whatchu mean no homo?

 

Well if the car is going to be parked infront of your house, setup proxi sensors around the area where the car will be? and a night vision camera to have a record of who did it incase. Not sure how you would do it but its an idea

 

I thought about that, but I wanted to do it vehicle specific. Security cameras wouldn't work very well at night. All you'd see are teeth and eyeballs in that area of town! hahahahaha!!!

 

Im not sure something like that could be added to the stock system (which imo is a pos)

 

Definitely a rough area. I wish you the best man.

 

get the viper 5901 with a proximity sensor. thats what i have in my car and the range on the 2 way remote is sick. it beeps and vibrates so it will alert u if some1 comes near your car.. its a sweet alarm that has alot of nice features.

 

I think it can be. I bought a sensor last night, so I will attempt to modify the system and add it in. It was only 30 bucks so if it doesn't work, well I'll just go have another alarm installed.

Nah, it's not that bad.... just pesky crackheads. I'm taking care of all that today, I'm committed to getting them out. I'm tired of them ruining my city. Now.... you go WEST of I75/85, that's a whole different story. Pittsburgh, West End, that is some serious hood over there. Summerhill/Grant Park is not bad. Just a few pesky stupid crackheads that want 20 bucks every now and then, and I will give it to them. In the form of a knuckle sandwich or a hollowpoint bullet depending on how close they get to my shit! This bitch does not play.

I will definitely keep that in mind. If I'm going to spend the money on an alarm, I do want it top of the line. Autotheft is not something I'm too concerned about. Like I said these people aren't serious criminals. They just want 20 bucks, and will pop your window out to get some CD's or something. I don't leave anything in my car, so there is nothing to them to steal, and no reason for them to break the windows (but they are too stupid to realize that), so I want to prevent them from doing the damage in the first place.

 

[QUOTE=Comet2404;10781434]I don't care about any of the other stuff, and I really like the stock setup. I think the only thing that would be beneficial to me is a prox sensor, and if I can get away with adding it to the stock setup for 50 or 100 bucks, rather then spending 4-500 on a new alarm, I'd rather do that!



lol whatchu mean no homo?[/QUOTE]

its a joke with the atl guys. you gotta visit the community more

 

you do know that they can break the window and the stock alarm wont go off right?

 

high quality night vision camera ftw.

 

Ah, good point. I'm not in that area too much, but the times I've rode through, I've seen some crackheads/rough people.

You're right though about West of 75/85, definitely.

 

such hatred for crackheads you know one good thing about a crackhead, you can use on to get a 5 finger discount on your expensive alarm system and buy it brand new for 20 bucks lol. that way you can protect your stuff from them, help them out with some rocks, and greatly reduce that price for security. g/l

 

Yeah but with the prox sensor I just ordered it will go off before they even lay a finger on my car. I will jack that sensitivity up so if someone farts the wrong way it will go off.

But then when I am out, I will flip the switch to disable the prox sensor and the alarm will be back to stock. This is only going to be used at night when parked at home.

Yeah, I just went over to my new house and talked to my neighbor. she has been there 3 years and never been messed with. it's not a big deal on that area, but you just have to keep an eye out.

haha I know right. It's the same concept as the A/C units though. They are for sale on craigslist for like 400 bucks, but why buy and support their practice? We need to crack down on these scrapyards that are paying these crackheads for these copper pipes. If they quit getting paid, they will stop stealing A/C units and copper freon and water pipes.

 

So I did buy the prox sensor, the DEI 508D.

It has 4 wires, Black, Red, Green and Blue. All I need to do is intertwine the GRN/BLU wires to the existing alarm setup. I was going over the schematic in the electrical troubleshooting manual about our security system, and I am going to tie it into the driver door sensor. Now - I will have to tap power from somewhere. I will obviously need POS and NEG for the red and black cable. I'm going to mount this baby on the ceiling by the dome light (and cover it up with a fabric thing, sort of like the BMW's and Audi's have. Where can I get positive and negative power? I was thinking the dome light, but I'm not really familiar with wiring, power, 12v current, and such. I'll probably fuck everything all up, but oh well, I'll figure it out eventually.

What do you guys think? TL God Kris? Anything?

 

Okay, so lets try and work through this. Anyone who has an ETM follow along on page 130. Look around the center of the page and you will see "Drivers Door Switch" and to the right "Left Rear Door Switch." I want to use one of these switches to tie the prox sensor into. So, when the door is opened, the switch closes and completes the circuit, setting off the alarm. Basically the system uses a negative input to set off the alarm (which the DEI 508D does as well I think). So the way I look at it, I need to connect the red (positive) wire to some power supply, and the black (negative) wire to a grounding wire. Then I'll take the blue/green wires from the prox sensor, tie them together, and then tie them into the wire between the one of the door switches and the drivers multiplex control unit.

Now - does this make any sense? This is the way I think it needs to work out, and unless someone has a better idea, I will go ahead and attempt this when my sensor comes in.

 

 

After I mount it to the roof of the car, right behind the dome light, I can't just leave some unsightly thing hanging there looking like ass, so I'm going to cover it up with something like the BMW ultrasonic burglar alarm cover like this:

 

imho prox's dont really do much other than annoy the hell outta you. you will constantly adjust it so you dont have false alerts.

install sounds correct. i would defiantly grab your constant at your ign harness and ground in the kick panel. the only thing thats going to be a bummer is your not going to have the option of the warn away.

i have mine under my center console, kinda easy to get to and you dont have to have some weird box on your headliner, just a thought

 

Yeah but if it annoys the hell out of me and prevents a break in it will serve it's purpose. The only time I plan to have it enabled is when it is sitting outside my house at night. And the only time someone would walk past it since it is on a private street is if they were up to no good.

I've snooped around the car today and found the wire I need to tap into. Now, all I need to do is find a positive and negative power connection for 12V. Could I use the dome light, since I plan on mounting it up there?



It's the green/orange wire for the driver door sensor I have separated on top. I will tie the prox sensors output wires into this one.

 

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http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3261415

This guy installed the shock sensor, which would probably be the same setup as a prox sensor. He's driving a VW GTI.

I'm just confused now about the power situation. I need to power this stupid bugger, and I'm not sure which wire to tap into.

 

youre awesome man, nice research so far. I dont get why factory alarms dont have additional add ons. It would make them money and save all of us a bunch of time.

 

there should be a ground and a constant power going to the dome, just get a tester and check... im pretty sure the dome can be on all the time, regardless of if the car is on/armed/off anything... because when i just got my red LEDs i used to leave em on at night... lol ... lame

 

Sounds like you may be headed nearby Grant Park area. You need a .40 cal and two way alarm system. Around here, just keep your interior free of loose change, laptop bags, ipods, gps units, clothes and anything else a crackhead would want. And you need to come by the ATL Azine social group and get some local opinions as well

 

Yeah just west, in Summerhill. I'm pretty familiar with the area, I've been in ATL since 1991, and I've lived in Kirkwood. Lets put something together for a small meet if we can. Just keep in mind I'm a pilot, so I'm only in town about half the month.

And I have a Springfield XD-45 and a couple of other things. I got that part covered!

 

Okay so any last words before I try this tomorrow?

 

besides good luck, nope

 

So I installed the damn thing today, and I can't believe it, but the thing actually WORKS!!!!! I just have to adjust the sensitivity of it tomorrow when it's daytime.

DIY

Supplies Needed
1. DEI 508D Proximity Sensor
2. 18-22 Gauge Wire
3. Butt Connectors
4. On/Off Switch (optional, but highly recommended)
5. Wire cutting/stripping/crimping tool
6. Add-a-Fuse
7. 5amp Fuse

Instructions
1. Start by connecting the add-a-fuse to the passenger side fuse box, and the fuse for the dome/courtesy lights. 3rd from the top on the left side. The Prox will need a 5amp fuse, and most Add-A-Fuse kits have some in there.

2. Run wire from the add-a-fuse under the glove box, through the center console somehow (I put it through underneath the radio, and I had to take out the center console for that - see another DIY). Make sure you have enough wire to play with. You are going to connect this piece to the switch which I mounted in the auxiliary switch input, next to the dash brightness controller.

3. Depending on the switch, you will have to cut it to make it fit. Do this, and connect the wire you just ran from the A-A-F. Take another long piece of wire, and connect that to the switch as well. Now, you are ready to begin the install.

4. Take of the driver door trim on the bottom (long plastic piece), the rear door bottom trim. These just pull out. You might have to pry it to get a finger under, but they are held in by clips. Then take out the center pillar bottom trim. This also just pops out. Run the wire that you connected to the switch, and run it behind the hood opener trim piece, and then behind the carpet - all the way over to the middle drivers pillar.

5. At the bottom of the trim, you will see some hoses that enclose a bunch of wires. I have some pictures in some previous posts in this thread. Very carefully, cut the protective hose from the bundle of wires. The wire you are looking for is in the smaller hose, which goes into the bigger hose later on. The single wire you are using is from the driver door switch. It is Green and Orange. Separate this wire.

6. Figure out where you want to mount the sensor. I chose the middle of the headliner just aft of the dome light. I have yet to find a cover for it, but BMW has one that I will use. After you figure this out, you can hook up the sensor.

7. Mount the sensor where you want it to, and run the wires down. You may have to remove the headliner a bit in order to get the wires up. You will have to remove the "Oh Shit" handles, the sun visors, the sunroof plastic screw, the dome light, and the console light up front. These are very easy to remove and most require 2-4 screws or a bolt removal.

8. I ran the wires down the middle pillar, and connected the RED wire from the prox sensor to the wire I ran over from the switch. I used butt connectors, heat shrink, and electrical tape to ensure a safe and solid connection. In the middle of the door pillar, I found a very small hole in between two large holes. I found a small screw that would fit in there, and I took the BLACK wire from the prox sensor and grounded it to the door pillar with that screw.

9. Now, it's time to do something with the blue and green trigger wires from the sensor. Take the BLUE and GREEN wires from the sensor, strip the end of it, and then twist them together.

10. Take the GREEN/ORANGE wire from the door switch on the vehicle, cut it in the middle, and then strip the ends. Please be very careful with this as there isn't a lot of wire to work with.

11. Take the prox blue/green wires that you now have twisted together, and twist them with the green/orange door switch wire from the vehicle. I used a butt connector, and put all three of those wires which are now twisted together, into one end and then connected the single green/orange wire going to the drivers multiplex controller via the protective black hose, together. I put some electrical tape all around this and tucked it snugly away behind where the trim piece will be.

12. Plug in the add-a-fuse and make sure the thing actually works. The sensor will arm after 4 seconds of the alarm arming. If it works okay, then reinstall all the trim pieces and clean up your work. You're done!



Now, I just finished installing this, so I haven't really tested all aspects of this thing. I'm pretty sure if the switch is on during the day, when you move around in the car it will display as if your drivers door is open. To remedy this, just flip the master prox sensor switch you have installed. I will play around with this tomorrow and check/fix all problems!

 

Okay so here's the deal:

It works like a charm, but I am damn glad I installed the on/off switch for the sensor. Reason being is because if you are just driving along in your car, and you move around, it will detect motion, and send a negative signal through the driver door switch line, which tells the car the driver door is open, which turns on the interior lights. haha! So I guess the optimal line to tap into would be the hood switch. I may go back and redo that one day, but I am going to leave it as is for right now. So I just drive around with the switch turned off, and I only turn it on as I'm exiting the vehicle and I want the prox system to arm with the alarm system.

Now, as far as arming goes, you can trip the sensor as you are exiting the car, so if you get out and you try to lock the car, you will hear the doors lock, but that does not mean the system is armed. You must give it two clicks, and hear the confirmation chirp to make sure it is armed. If it won't chirp, just wait a second for the sensor to go back to idle (remember it tripped when you exited the car), and hit the lock button again and wait for the chip.

Seems to be working as planed right now though! I'm very happy with it. I just have to find a good cover for it.

 

just install an after market system... it's easier and better

 

Okay so I've been living in my new pad here in Summerhill (between grant park and turner field) for about 3 weeks now. I've had 2 break in attempts, and both times the prox sensor scared them away before they even touched the car. The last time, on this past saturday night, I chased them down the road with a shotgun, so I don't think they'll be around anymore.

Adding this to my stock system was probably the best thing I could have done. I do get false alarms from people driving up my street too close sometimes, but it is WELL worth it, and I'm so glad I did it. I turn the sensor off during the day, and only have it on at night.

I'd HIGHLY suggest people add this to their alarm if you're in a sketchy area of town and concerned about people popping windows out.

 

Holy shit...3 weeks and already 2 break-in attempts.

Glad it's worked out for you!

 

You know how these..... locals...... are. Fucking ridiculous. NO parental supervision, no morals, no values, always "GIMME GIMME GIMME."

The good news is that I have great neighbors, who care, and that are doing their part to make our neighborhood safer and more enjoyable for all of us. I've got some gang activity close by my house, but I'm taking care of that with some of my neighbors and the police. They'll be gone soon enough.

These 2 attempted break-ins were literally just kids. 17-21 I'd guess, that were just out on a Saturday night at 12-2am causing mischief and mayhem. Fucking little punks. They know now not to come fuck with my shit. They think it's cool to do that kind of stuff.

But yeah, that prox sensor is BAD ASS, and I'm SO, SO glad I put it in. Makes me sleep better at night, as does the 12 gauge under my bed.

 

dam. i got aftermarket autopage. i might convert back