CL: Possible new system build
06-12-2009, 07:04 PM
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Possible new system build
Well it seems I may have my current setup sold next week. So first im gonna take the moneys and finish up my cbr build. Then once it sells buy a new setup and a motox bike(man i miss them). I am thinking of 3-4 10's. 2 15's or maybe 1 18. I do like the idea of 2 15's though not sure if i can get the box wide enough to fit em in the trunk, and I bet 3 10's would get crazy loud. Also no clue on what type to get ill have to figure that out later on. I am wanting to possibly get a subdown saz1500, would love a 3000 but man the $$$$. Matt I know ull chime in here soon lol watcha think. Will def be a ported box, and if 10's ill try putting the port on the bottom to squeeeze in the subs and def use 1" wood..
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06-12-2009, 08:08 PM
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Well it seems I may have my current setup sold next week. So first im gonna take the moneys and finish up my cbr build. Then once it sells buy a new setup and a motox bike(man i miss them). I am thinking of 3-4 10's. 2 15's or maybe 1 18. I do like the idea of 2 15's though not sure if i can get the box wide enough to fit em in the trunk, and I bet 3 10's would get crazy loud. Also no clue on what type to get ill have to figure that out later on. I am wanting to possibly get a subdown saz1500, would love a 3000 but man the $$$$. Matt I know ull chime in here soon lol watcha think. Will def be a ported box, and if 10's ill try putting the port on the bottom to squeeeze in the subs and def use 1" wood..
06-12-2009, 08:33 PM
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Well, you're in luck on1wheel... I happen to have an SAZ-1500D that I'm probably not going to be using... Hmm... As for subs, I'd do 2 12's or maybe even 4 10's. You're going to need more power for them then just a 1500D though... 2 15's will give you more cone area, but I doubt you'll be able to build the box outside the car then slide it in. Maybe talk to wenn on caco about a 4th order design... He does them for free, so what's it hurt to ask...
As for subs, maybe AA Havocs or RD Alpha V.2's. Those are the first subs that come to mind, since I don't think you'll have enough power for something like an HDC3 (even the copper ones can take 1800+) or a CD Omega, or anything else monstrous like that... From what I've heard about the havocs is that they get stupid loud and stupid low, and they're built by Fi, so you should be pretty safe, as long as the box is good... The AA's come in dual 2 coils, so you could run 2 and get a 1/2 ohm final load. Then spend some cash on batts and make sure you have a decent alt (which I think you already do) and you should be money...
PM me if interested in the 1500D...
As for subs, maybe AA Havocs or RD Alpha V.2's. Those are the first subs that come to mind, since I don't think you'll have enough power for something like an HDC3 (even the copper ones can take 1800+) or a CD Omega, or anything else monstrous like that... From what I've heard about the havocs is that they get stupid loud and stupid low, and they're built by Fi, so you should be pretty safe, as long as the box is good... The AA's come in dual 2 coils, so you could run 2 and get a 1/2 ohm final load. Then spend some cash on batts and make sure you have a decent alt (which I think you already do) and you should be money...
PM me if interested in the 1500D...
06-12-2009, 08:47 PM
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Eh not interested in hacking up my seat, and i have a baby seat back there. Yea I didnt think i could do 15's without building it in the trunk. I figured 3 10's as I could take the box in and out. But hell may just go back with 2 12's again, but maybe fi btl's and get nasty loud. We shall see. I would go back to 1 15 but man my 2 12's get way louder
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06-12-2009, 09:01 PM
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Eh not interested in hacking up my seat, and i have a baby seat back there. Yea I didnt think i could do 15's without building it in the trunk. I figured 3 10's as I could take the box in and out. But hell may just go back with 2 12's again, but maybe fi btl's and get nasty loud. We shall see. I would go back to 1 15 but man my 2 12's get way louder
06-12-2009, 09:17 PM
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2 12's are likely louder than 1 15 due to cone area... Roughly, 2 12's have about 50 sq in of extra cone area. A 1500D should have enough power for a single Omega, but not 2. Trust me, I powered mine up on a couple 18's. The same thing is true of the BTL... They need quite a bit of juice to really get moving (probably 2-3kw each).
If you're looking at 4 10's, maybe 4 AQ SDC2.5's... They should hold the power without much trouble... I'd probably go with a couple of AA havoc 12's. Wire them at .5 ohms on a 1500D, and you should be pretty money. Tune that sucker low, and get some...
If you're looking at 4 10's, maybe 4 AQ SDC2.5's... They should hold the power without much trouble... I'd probably go with a couple of AA havoc 12's. Wire them at .5 ohms on a 1500D, and you should be pretty money. Tune that sucker low, and get some...
06-12-2009, 09:42 PM
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I know I'm trying to push the 15's on you.but these will most likely take 1500rms http://cgi.ebay.com/2-15-FI-Q-subwoo...3A1%7C294%3A50 I was looking at these myself.ditch the box or try for a beter price w/o the box.good sounding subs
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06-12-2009, 09:50 PM
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Hmm... That could get stupid low... Get a couple Fi Q D2's and wire them down to 1/2 ohm on the sundown. It would give you some head room with your amp, and you still don't need that much electrical support to run them at 1/2 ohm. Run the subs in like 6-7 cubes tuned at 28hz... yummy lows... But you'll need some serious mids that can pick up the sound well down into the 50's hz range... Come to think of it, I have some of those too...
06-12-2009, 09:59 PM
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well to keep me being able to pull the box in and out it will be around 4 cubes. not really wantin to run at .5 ohms wanna keep the amp running lol.
06-12-2009, 10:00 PM
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Sundown will run at 1/2 ohm daily... According to Derrick (who does a ton of testing for/with Sundown amps) told me this:
So you really don't need a whole lot of electrical to run it at 1/2 ohm...
You're good with that and the extra battery. For 1ohm daily a good battery under the hood will work. For 0.5ohm daily I recommend a good battery in the back as well. My team mate has ran one @ 0.5ohm daily in his '06 Altima with the stock alt, no battery under the hood, and 2 g31 yellow tops in the back. Voltage never falls below 12.9v.
In his car with totally stock electrical (alt and battery with nothing extra in the back) running the amp @ 1ohm daily the voltage never dropped below 12.8v.
Another guy I used to work with that competes sometimes runs an saz-1500d @ 0.5ohm daily in his Sebring with the stock alt, stock battery up front, and a Optima red top in the rear without any issues.
The only thing I warn people about is cranking the gains and bass boost for no reason. That's a sure way to cause extra un-needed current draw and shorten the life of your amplifier. You shouldn't need any bass boost at all unless your head unit has a ridiculously low pre-out voltage.
In his car with totally stock electrical (alt and battery with nothing extra in the back) running the amp @ 1ohm daily the voltage never dropped below 12.8v.
Another guy I used to work with that competes sometimes runs an saz-1500d @ 0.5ohm daily in his Sebring with the stock alt, stock battery up front, and a Optima red top in the rear without any issues.
The only thing I warn people about is cranking the gains and bass boost for no reason. That's a sure way to cause extra un-needed current draw and shorten the life of your amplifier. You shouldn't need any bass boost at all unless your head unit has a ridiculously low pre-out voltage.
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