I can't wait to fire the ID MAX up!

 

Dang! Did you buy that at Golds gym?

 

look @ that magnet

 

Yeah, hope he's not driving over any manholes! He'll lift the covers right off. :wow:

 

I think you should give him a partner to keep him company. Unfortunately, in my opinion, no matter how good the speaker is you can't compensate for surface area of the woofer cone. Two decent 12 in woofers will move more air then one excellent 12in woofer. It looks like it will hit very nice though. Congratualtions on your new baby.

 

hey, that sub is supposed to give very good sound quality while belting out the spl #s as well...!

btw, its only a triple stacked magnet motor structure. alot of subs are built like that. ya'll need to get out more often.


bozzzz, ive got the 15" L7 and im still jealous, jeje

 

speaking of big ole subs.. this new pioneer looks impressively big!

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/Pi...000SPL_big.jpg

 

I agree with you to a certain extent. True, one 12 can't typically compete with two (you need to define "decent" since this is a competition grade sub and is FAR from merely "decent") 12" subs. However, I also feel it depends on the sub and what your goals are for your system. I had two 12" IDQs for years. Both of them together cost less than this one sub.

They'd shake my rear view mirror until it was useless. I never used my SPL meter to see what I was hitting...because I wasn't interested in knowing.

I also felt that it was more bass than I really needed. I listen to metal/hard rock only, so I'm not looking for SPL as much as I am SQ. They did a great job in both arenas. However, they also took up quite a bit of space in my trunk -- one other thing that has to be considered when building your system and is often overlooked until it's too late.

I find it hard to believe that a single ID MAX getting 650W wouldn't make most people look twice, which is once more than I want them to. Once it's in, I'd be interested in seeing it's output compared to two 12s costing roughly the same as this one ($150 per sub in my case) being driven by a comparable power output. Would they be louder SPL wise? Maybe...but not by much and not worth the extra cargo space they would require ESPECIALLY in a sealed enclosure. Let's not compare sealed vs. ported vs. bandpass here. Apples to apples only. Would they sound cleaner SQ wise? I HIGHLY doubt it.

It's not about comparisons as much as it's about what works for you. One ID MAX should work fine for me. It will supposedly hit 120dB or greater. I have no intentions of finding that out. I do intend to see if it can shake the rear view while keeping up with double bass drums though!

Even Systek is jealous and he has a monstrous 15" L7!

You step into an entirely different arena when you go with the 15's.

BTW, thanks for your congrats. I'm not trying to argue, just pointing out my thought process...sometimes the Prozac makes me do strange things.........

 

humm.... i don't know much about the ID max, but i have 3 12" jl w3's and they hit plenty hard enough for me..... I played everything thiere is to play stereo wise. i had from 1 10" to 2 15's and 4 8's and 1, 2 and 3 12's.... and from what i learned besides playing music too much with a big system makes u hard of hearing, is that u can have the most expensive subs out there, but u rarely push it to it's full potential so don't waste too much money on a sub that can "handle" like 2000 watts and so on.... i plan on buying 2 12" JL w6v2's and so far i think they are the best bang for your buck......

 

if u go to alot of carshows and want to attract attention and show off your hard work, your gonna go full throttle on the volume and ur speakers' capabilities for at least 6 hrs straight...i do and gotta say, my car idles for at least half the day trying to keep the juice flowing...so build quality has alot to do w/what ur decisions are, if ur in my situation.

 

I'm sure that the SQ will be supurb. I have just found that many times people think a single sub will be louder (SPL) than dual subs. In most cases no but you are correct in saying there are many different classes of speakers and enclosures and we must compare apples to apples. I'm just a symmetrical type of person and do not feel right only having one sub. However I did have a center channel once mounted in my defrost vent of my old Cavalier. I would like to go with a center channel again. I do agree with you on the cargo space it does kind of suk not having all that trunk space available. Let us now how it sounds when you install it.

 

Had 8 8's in my old car and it hit hard as hell and sounded good, with good "tight" bass.

 

For a sound quality setup, one sub is suffice.

 

Good to see that we're on the same page. I would typically NEVER compare one sub to two. Physics makes that an impossible argument to win. However, in the case of the ID MAX, it can do what "most" twin sets can't.

Enough already. This isn't about us fighting over how loud my system is, etc, etc,. (Supposedly, it'll hit over 120 dB...like I said, enough already!!)

My guess is that it'll be louder than most and sound better than most. Can I be beat, sure. Do I care, no.

Hell, it's going to be hard enough dialing in the system with a monster in the trunk.

I do have to say that I'm not entirely in agreement with ID on the box size. They're ideal box size results in a Qtc of .707. That's nice for those who wish to build a system and have a perfectly flat response curve. I'm going to shoot for a Qtc around 0.9, so I guess I'll be "breaking their mold" and building a box that works for me.

Hell, I'm still trying to get the 6.5 chameleons in. I need to learn how to tackle one project at a time.

Sheesh. I've got the ID chameleons to get in, the EQ to retrofit, and the ID MAX that needs an enclosure.

Too many ideas, too little time.

Either way, I'll get it all done and post it.

 

I'm extremely eager to here one of these subs. Does anyone in the MA area have these? I don't now of any retail places that would have them on display.