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Old Dec 23, 2014 | 12:39 PM
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Need some Help (2nd Gen TL NAV)

Hey guys, I am a 12V guy by nature, and want to connect a back up camera in my 2003 TL-S w/ Nav. I know the trunk mounted unit has all the wires that connect to the dash mounted monitor. I have no desire to spend hundreds of dollars on a box that connects everything for me, as I can easily do it myself. Does anyone have the wire diagram or pin identification for the OEM harness? I plan on just using some DPDT relays connected to the reverse light to activate the image, so I just really need to know the pinout of the OEM connector. I looked all over online and our site, but no-one seems to have the OEM DVD NAV pinout info. Thanks in advance...I will do a how to sticky for anyone who is interested, it should only take (2) Bosche relays (about $10), a back up camera (about $20), and some wiring and connectors. All of the wiring necessary will be in the trunk (no pulling apart the dash). Please let me know if you have the info...
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Old Feb 11, 2015 | 10:55 AM
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Meh from what I understand and being a former installer you CAN NOT just hook a camera to the 2G navi screen. It's because of the type of signal it needs, some RGB weirdo format. I'm yanking my radio and installing a DDIN HU w/ Nav and camera input for my back up camera needs..... But if you wanna try I'll look for the diagram in my factory service manual. May take me awhile though as it's scrolling through over 2000 pages on a computer screen
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 12:20 PM
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Meh from what I understand and being a former installer you CAN NOT just hook a camera to the 2G navi screen. It's because of the type of signal it needs, some RGB weirdo format. I'm yanking my radio and installing a DDIN HU w/ Nav and camera input for my back up camera needs..... But if you wanna try I'll look for the diagram in my factory service manual. May take me awhile though as it's scrolling through over 2000 pages on a computer screen

Well, here's the rub. The screen is a standard video display. It's input is either a direct composite or possibly a RGB, however, I the only difference is the wiring configuration. I have decided to just take a standard composite video cable and run it to an independent screen. I bet I will find the signal and the ground for the video (I am almost willing to bet they are insulated together to be ran independent of the other wiring to alleviate any grounding and/or power issues.) Once I isolate the wires, I will simply wire up some relays that will be triggered by my reverse light (also in the trunk area), and connect a video camera's image to be sent through the same wires, only from a back-up camera's image instead of the DVD NAV's image. Once the vehicle is no longer in reverse, the image will swap back to the DVD NAV unit...I will take some pics, incase anyone else would like to do this...
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 02:58 PM
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I'm pretty sure the video is not separate, but hey if you do find it awesome! I do know I've read other threads of people trying to feed video to that screen and it seems like its a nightmare. I know I've read its RGB format... If you do figure this out please post up a DIY with pictures!
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Old Feb 18, 2015 | 08:45 AM
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I'm pretty sure the video is not separate, but hey if you do find it awesome! I do know I've read other threads of people trying to feed video to that screen and it seems like its a nightmare. I know I've read its RGB format... If you do figure this out please post up a DIY with pictures!
I'm an audio video engineer. Not trying to sound big headed, but realistically, if it can be done, I will figure it out. I also write for EH Publications (Electronic House, CE Pro, Commercial Integrator, Tech Decisions, etc...) My last article was the breakdown of the evolution of HDMI from it's inception to where we are now (2.0). I know the image isn't digital, which means it analog. So Honda should have a video signal going from the DVD unit to the display in the dash (and as I mentioned, to avoid any anomalies, should be shielded) . Depending on the flavor of the signal, will just depend on what type of back up camera I use (for it's specific output). It will be cheaper to get a camera that either has composite, component or VGA out that to convert it. I will look into it this weekend if I have the time...I will follow up with what I find out...What gets me is that the NAV is so old and nobody has done this yet? It just doesn't seem right...
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Old Feb 25, 2015 | 02:11 AM
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Found This..... And more coming, Finally got the Technician Manual from Acura downloaded, first diagrams will be of the connectors at the DVD Unit in the trunk, last ones will be of the connectors at the display.


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Old Feb 25, 2015 | 02:25 AM
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First one was Connector "A" , Connector "B", this one, has two different diagrams... one for 99'-02' models and one for 03' models which is the one I have posted here.... Let me know if you need the other for some reason....


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Old Mar 2, 2015 | 02:54 PM
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OMG You Fuc*ing Rock!!!! This is perfect!!!! Thank You!!!! It is Composite Video (Like I mentioned it may be earlier). I will just get a camera with a composite out, and then use all of the other signals that are right there! Thank You so much!!!! Saved me a bunch of time. I will definitely do a write up, find a RBG camera that is compatible and do everything in the trunk, easy peasy!
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Old Mar 2, 2015 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by d4atls
Found This..... And more coming, Finally got the Technician Manual from Acura downloaded, first diagrams will be of the connectors at the DVD Unit in the trunk, last ones will be of the connectors at the display.

I told you the signal wires would be separate. Bingo! I am super excited!
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Old Mar 3, 2015 | 01:59 AM
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Will this work on a 1999 TL? My understanding is the 1999 has a different Navi system then the 2000-2003 2nd Gen TLs.
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Old Mar 9, 2015 | 11:22 AM
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I'm not sure, I don't know why they would have different NAVs, but anything is possible...
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Old Mar 12, 2015 | 10:07 PM
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Not sure if the Nav is different component wise but I do KNOW the wiring diagrams are different. I'll look through my manual and see if it has the diagrams for that year, I think it does. And Groovemaster if you need anymore just let me know. And PLEASE take LOTS of pictures as you go and make us all a DIY!!!
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Old Mar 18, 2015 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by d4atls
Not sure if the Nav is different component wise but I do KNOW the wiring diagrams are different. I'll look through my manual and see if it has the diagrams for that year, I think it does. And Groovemaster if you need anymore just let me know. And PLEASE take LOTS of pictures as you go and make us all a DIY!!!



I definitely will. I am slammed at work for the next few weeks, but it will happen...
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Old Mar 19, 2015 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BigTzzy
Will this work on a 1999 TL? My understanding is the 1999 has a different Navi system then the 2000-2003 2nd Gen TLs.
Give me a little while to search through the book, I'll post you up some diag's shortly. It all works the same but wire colors are different on 99's, different again on 01-02' and yet again on 03's. Will take me a little while as the factory service manual is over 2000 pages long and it's on my laptop....
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