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Old 08-27-2004, 01:11 PM
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Mute wire and pin counting

Does anyone know if the factory head unit has a mute wire?

I heard that pin #14 on the harness that plugs into the factory deck will mute the radio if given a +12V signal.

Does anyone know if this is true? I have been having trouble getting the radio to mute.

I am wondering if I am counting the pins incorrectly

How are pins using counted? I heard that I hold the wire side with the harness lock facing up. And count left to right.

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20

Is this correct?
I noticed that the 20 pin plug that goes into the Factory deck actually plugs in with the locking connector side down. So when I count the pins I have to flip the connector upside down and look from the wire side. I'm just wondering if I'm going wrong somewhere.

Does anyone know where I can get a pin to stick in the factory 20 pin harness?

Thanks....Kenny
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14 is the only missing pin on the connector. That should help you on that part. As for getting a pin, go to a car stereo shop, and ask for a "reverse" honda connector. Most of the connectors that they will have are to have a non-stock radio plug into a stock wireing harness. The reverse allows you to plug a factory honda radio into a non-honda. So, it emulates that same harness. (They are female pins) Therefore, it is full of pins that will just slide into the factory harness.
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Hey Smileyw,

On the non navi unit there is a lot more than just 1 missing pin.
That is why I'm having so much trouble with it.

Thanks for you help. I'll see what they say at the stereo shops.

Thanks...Kenny
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Originally Posted by Tsx536
Hey Smileyw,

On the non navi unit there is a lot more than just 1 missing pin.
That is why I'm having so much trouble with it.

Ah...

That explains a lot!


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Okay, let me see if this will help?
pin #1 is yellow/green
pin#20 is black
Pin #11 in Brown
Pin#10 is White/blue


It goes across

1 2 3 4 ...
11 12 13 14


that should help you ID the pin. Lastly, it looks like 12 and 13 are for the navigation.
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Thanks for the help smileyw. I'll take another look this weekend.

Did you ever get your bluetooth kit to work?
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Originally Posted by Tsx536

Did you ever get your bluetooth kit to work?

Nope. Called Sony today, they were useless.
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Dang that sucks man....I'm not surprised though.

When you start asking about specific technical details, then it's hard to find people who "really" know what's going on. I'm asking a bunch of the car stereo shops about the mute wire on the factory deck and they have no idea! They seem to barely know anything about the TSX.
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Did you find the reverse wire harness at a major store like Circuit city, good guys, best buy?

Or did you have to find a custom store. Also. I guess that I could just use any model honda harness, correct? Since, I just need one pin then I want to just find the cheapest one.

Thanks...Kenny
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Originally Posted by Tsx536
Did you find the reverse wire harness at a major store like Circuit city, good guys, best buy?

Or did you have to find a custom store. Also. I guess that I could just use any model honda harness, correct? Since, I just need one pin then I want to just find the cheapest one.

Thanks...Kenny
I would try circuit city/best buy. I got just the single pin from a friend who had already done some stuff with a 99 TL, so he had left over pins from his purchased harness.
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I've called up and people are saying that I will have to go to Honda to get that...

What do you think?
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Originally Posted by Tsx536
I've called up and people are saying that I will have to go to Honda to get that...

What do you think?

Let me ask my friend where he got it.
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Originally Posted by smileyw
Let me ask my friend where he got it.
Best Buy is where he got it.
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Thanks Smileyw. I ended up just sticking a standard wire in there without a connector. I taped it to the harness and it still works great!

Thanks for your help. I appreciate it!

Kenny
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