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Old 07-12-2004, 07:58 PM
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Inverted subs...

Has anybody had any experience with inverted subs? If so do you know if they sound better than subs in a sealed box. Also whats the idea behind inverted subs (do they sound louder or something?).

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Old 07-12-2004, 10:46 PM
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im not to sure, but since no1 replied maybe i can help. i THINK the inverted subs makes it a bit louder cus the bass is channeled into the box but, a normal box wouldnt work, the area that the bass fills would have to be bigger than a normal box and u would need free-air subs. i think the infinity sub is an example of it...... nebody else have ne other thoughts?!
Old 07-12-2004, 11:17 PM
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hmmm not too sure what kind of box i want.. hopefully should be ordering my subs tomorrow... thanks for the info though..
Old 07-13-2004, 12:02 AM
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inverted subs serve no purpose except looks. All a sub does is moves air, and an inverted sub if you think about it has less surface area than a sub facing normally - so why the hell would you do that???
Old 07-13-2004, 10:03 AM
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One reason for mounting a sub "inverted" is to allow the smallest sealed enclosure possible. When a sub is mounted with the cone facing out, the sub basket and cone take up air space w/in the enclosure. This displacement needs to be subtracted out to determine the actual enclsoure volume (note - some manufacturers include sub displacement in their "required sub volume" calculations). So if you flip the sub around, you can go with a smaller total enclsoure volume. The cone shape will actually add to the total air volume as well - so you need to add this to the total enclosure volume to get your actual volume.

Another reason this can make sense is if you need to create a really wacky-shaped enlcosure that would not be able to physically hold the sub due to the enclsoure's internal dimensions (i.e. picture a huge box that is 2 feet wide x 2 feet deep x 2 inches high...you could not mount the sub traditionally, but you could mount it inverted).

On top of these 2 design reasons, some people just like the looks of having the sub basket visible instead of the cone.

BTW - I believe it makes no difference in the sound.
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when you invert subs dont you have to wire them 180 out of phase to get them to hit right...
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Originally Posted by shawhite
when you invert subs dont you have to wire them 180 out of phase to get them to hit right...
Assuming all other things equal, yes.
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I honestly don't think the untrained ear can really tell if the sub is in or out of phase. I know I couldn't tell.
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the only place where subwoofer phasing is important, it's in the overlap between it output and the midbass woofer output. a good way to set the phase is to listening at a test tone around 125 hz and trying it with the sub in and out of phase so see wich is louder. be sure to neutralize crossover first.
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