How to get Broadcast TV in your TL DIY, (DTV for now and after Feb 09)
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How to get Broadcast TV in your TL DIY, (DTV for now and after Feb 09)
After having investing in all the electronics on my TL including:
-Invision Revolution II headrest TV's
-Xbox 1
-New Alpine CDA-9886
-Alpine Type-R Components (Front) Type-R Coaxial (Rear)
-Alpine MRP-F450 (High's Amp)
-Alpine MRP-M850 (Sub Amp)
-Kicker Solobaric L7 12inch
I wanted to take the bar further by adding some broadcast television to my beloved TL. Working at a car audio shop you tend to have some innovative electrical thinking and I thought of how easy it would be to add TV to any in-vehicle monitor due to the convenience of the new ZENITH DTV CONVERTER BOX. After Feb 09 as everyone should know analog broadcasts are being shut down so, out comes the DTV Tuner Box from Zenith to aid in receiving the new digital signals. This make a universal and relatively inexpensive add-on for TV.
Requirements:
-Some type of monitor/display for your vehicle or Navi monitor hack for your OEM Nav
-DTV Converter Box mine was made by Zenith, (picked up from my local Circuit City $60 w/o coupon, $20 with coupon), just make sure it has Video and Audio outputs
-Power inverter my guess is about 50-75 watts, nothing to high maybe $30-$40
-Extension Cord $5
My total cost was $65 not including my original headrest investment.
Though my DIY isn't too thorough its an easy install as long as you can use a pair of wire strippers and a ratchet.
1. Find a location for the DTV box that is easy enough for you to mount/place/wire/install or anything else required for where you want to put it. I chose to mount mine with some velcro on the rear deck next to the factory sub location. It had a perfect square to hold the box in turns along with the velcro. Picture below:
2. Once I had chosen the box location I began to route the wires behind the carpeted panel that the box sits on, I tucked them in between the window and panel, routing them around the back panel to the door and down the side of the seat to the bottom of the backseat.
3. I then found a location convenient for the power inverter, since my amps were mounted in the back with 12 volts of high current amp wire from the batter I figured that would be the perfect source for the inverter. I mounted it in the left side of the trunk behind the carpet with the extension cord running through the back seat to come out from under the seat wear the DTV box would plug in and hide the connection easily under the seat when snapped back in place.
4. Next is to route the signal wires for the output to the TV. I had mine follow the power wires down to the seat then hidden under the plastic panels to the seat and then to the headrest box. This will vary based on your monitor situation. Just hide the wires well and make sure they won't get damaged or pinched.
5. Once the wires are all hidden and hooked up thats it! Hide all the wires, wire lume them up zip tie them neatly and securely and enjoy. This pic is of my headrest TV's with my channel 6 displayed.
-Invision Revolution II headrest TV's
-Xbox 1
-New Alpine CDA-9886
-Alpine Type-R Components (Front) Type-R Coaxial (Rear)
-Alpine MRP-F450 (High's Amp)
-Alpine MRP-M850 (Sub Amp)
-Kicker Solobaric L7 12inch
I wanted to take the bar further by adding some broadcast television to my beloved TL. Working at a car audio shop you tend to have some innovative electrical thinking and I thought of how easy it would be to add TV to any in-vehicle monitor due to the convenience of the new ZENITH DTV CONVERTER BOX. After Feb 09 as everyone should know analog broadcasts are being shut down so, out comes the DTV Tuner Box from Zenith to aid in receiving the new digital signals. This make a universal and relatively inexpensive add-on for TV.
Requirements:
-Some type of monitor/display for your vehicle or Navi monitor hack for your OEM Nav
-DTV Converter Box mine was made by Zenith, (picked up from my local Circuit City $60 w/o coupon, $20 with coupon), just make sure it has Video and Audio outputs
-Power inverter my guess is about 50-75 watts, nothing to high maybe $30-$40
-Extension Cord $5
My total cost was $65 not including my original headrest investment.
Though my DIY isn't too thorough its an easy install as long as you can use a pair of wire strippers and a ratchet.
1. Find a location for the DTV box that is easy enough for you to mount/place/wire/install or anything else required for where you want to put it. I chose to mount mine with some velcro on the rear deck next to the factory sub location. It had a perfect square to hold the box in turns along with the velcro. Picture below:
2. Once I had chosen the box location I began to route the wires behind the carpeted panel that the box sits on, I tucked them in between the window and panel, routing them around the back panel to the door and down the side of the seat to the bottom of the backseat.
3. I then found a location convenient for the power inverter, since my amps were mounted in the back with 12 volts of high current amp wire from the batter I figured that would be the perfect source for the inverter. I mounted it in the left side of the trunk behind the carpet with the extension cord running through the back seat to come out from under the seat wear the DTV box would plug in and hide the connection easily under the seat when snapped back in place.
4. Next is to route the signal wires for the output to the TV. I had mine follow the power wires down to the seat then hidden under the plastic panels to the seat and then to the headrest box. This will vary based on your monitor situation. Just hide the wires well and make sure they won't get damaged or pinched.
5. Once the wires are all hidden and hooked up thats it! Hide all the wires, wire lume them up zip tie them neatly and securely and enjoy. This pic is of my headrest TV's with my channel 6 displayed.
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You will get any local channels your in distance of, but the advantage is they're digital so no static. Most of the channels are even in widescreen. To change the channels the Zenith box came with a remote, or you can hit the button on th box. Remote also allows you to view the guide, signal quality, programming.
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I would find a different place to mount that unit that is more out of the way. It looks horrible sitting in the rear window
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I know the location isn't the greatest but to change the channel it has to be in reaching range or range of the remote so in the cabin was the only option. Enough people kick my xbox under the seat so I decided this wouldn't be the worst location, I may change it later. If you look in the picture of the DTV box to the right you can see my antenna mounted if any one wants to do it this way.
-I put a hole in the plastic removable panel in the front of the sub housing and the antenna sticks about 3 inches out. Not real noticeable and I like the location.
-I put a hole in the plastic removable panel in the front of the sub housing and the antenna sticks about 3 inches out. Not real noticeable and I like the location.
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I'm working/shopping around for a better antenna, this one is the best I have found so far, at my reach at least. Its available on ebay for a couple dollars. I had one that extended about 2FT in opposite directions but the amp on it didn't work so it wasn't doing any better. Whats nice is the DTV box has a signal meter on it so no guessing. I'll keep people updated when I find the best antenna.
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I just had an idea... why not mount the converter box in the fold-out arm rest?
That way you could use the remote, or just change the channel on the box. Then, when you go to Ghettoville... just fold up the arm rest and viola!
That way you could use the remote, or just change the channel on the box. Then, when you go to Ghettoville... just fold up the arm rest and viola!
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I just had an idea... why not mount the converter box in the fold-out arm rest?
That way you could use the remote, or just change the channel on the box. Then, when you go to Ghettoville... just fold up the arm rest and viola!
That way you could use the remote, or just change the channel on the box. Then, when you go to Ghettoville... just fold up the arm rest and viola!
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wow, I have an Alpine IVA-W200 full screen below my NAV screen..I guess this would be an easy mod for me, but I would just have to figure out the converter location so it can get signal. I wonder if they have a magnetic mount exterior antenna in small form factor? I have my XM antenna color matched and on the right rear corner of my trunk..that would be cool if they had something like that I can put on the other corner of the trunk and color match if possible.
Never thought about something like this, since I just watch DVDs but my head unit can take another outside a/v source...hmmmmmmm, perfect for road trips with the wifey to keep her mind off how long the drive is lol
Never thought about something like this, since I just watch DVDs but my head unit can take another outside a/v source...hmmmmmmm, perfect for road trips with the wifey to keep her mind off how long the drive is lol
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here are the dimensions from CNET for the box
* Width 8.5 in
* Depth 1.8 in
* Height 6.4 in
* Weight 1.7 lbs
Connections
1 x RF input ( F connector ) - Rear,
1 x Composite video/audio output ( RCA phono x 3 ) - Rear
1 x RF output ( F connector ) - Rear
* Width 8.5 in
* Depth 1.8 in
* Height 6.4 in
* Weight 1.7 lbs
Connections
1 x RF input ( F connector ) - Rear,
1 x Composite video/audio output ( RCA phono x 3 ) - Rear
1 x RF output ( F connector ) - Rear
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Ok so I found an antenna that gets incredible reception but I think no matter what antenna I have watching while driving isn't going to happen. The antenna is a flat amplified antenna from circuit city made by RCA, it says designed for DTV, (I'm guessing that doesn't mean DTV while moving!) It seems as though the antenna signal drops and resumes so rapidly while driving that the converter box can't buffer a steady stream. So here lies another problem...
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with your old antenna, while u were driving was everything ok?
Here's the new antenna I used RCA model number ANT1450B.
I was able to hide this antenna in the stock bose sub box. Hidden from any sight inside or out.
I just had an idea... why not mount the converter box in the fold-out arm rest?
That way you could use the remote, or just change the channel on the box. Then, when you go to Ghettoville... just fold up the arm rest and viola!
That way you could use the remote, or just change the channel on the box. Then, when you go to Ghettoville... just fold up the arm rest and viola!
So after all that I get incredible reception (just for now not when driving), nobody can see my converter box unless they're in the car, and no visible antenna either. I'm making progress just no perfect yet.
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wham bam thank you ma'am
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i got the $40 coupon for the convert box and it say that i can the the following boxes for zenith, zenith DTT900/901 and the zenith DF2000. i can also get many other brands. which one of these zenith boxes do i need/ will work, and can i get other ones besides the one u got?
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Still not digging where its mounted. I would mount it in the trunk or somewhere else (glovebox/behind it) . Id get a IR repeater and use that to get the remote signal to it.
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Here's an update to the TV in your car I started, much better all around!
Final location for converter box...
Avic-D3 so I can watch it now!
Amps in the floor setup make the trunk much nicer with fresh carpet!!
And I kept the wood cut-out and carpeted it so when the trunk means being functional then I can do it with out scratching the plexi...
Final location for converter box...
Avic-D3 so I can watch it now!
Amps in the floor setup make the trunk much nicer with fresh carpet!!
And I kept the wood cut-out and carpeted it so when the trunk means being functional then I can do it with out scratching the plexi...
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I don't really see in any spots in the trunk that I like under the rear deck is almost out of question due to the torsion bars for our trunk lid. Not enough room behind the carpets and my floor is filled with amps and wood so I guess for me I'm just gonna leave it.
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should i spend more in
you have to be stationary to receive DTV signal. I have this on my carpc and I've learned that the signal locks on to a fixed position. Signal is pretty much lost once speed is above 5-10 mph
if anyone figures out otherwise, i'd love to kno how they got it working
if anyone figures out otherwise, i'd love to kno how they got it working
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Quick question, I have a cigarette lighter inverter that isn't getting any use. It powers and charges my laptop on road trips. Do you suppose i can just use that w/o hard wiring an inverter? I know hardwire would be a cleaner install but I guess as a temporary thing to see if this is something I would pursue. If I did this, I would use the armrest cigarette plug.
There are plenty of times I'm sitting waiting to pick up the wife or just stuck in traffic and standing still for 5-10 minutes...at least catch some local news on the drive home or something or catch a "Cheaters" episode leaving a parking garage at night lmao
There are plenty of times I'm sitting waiting to pick up the wife or just stuck in traffic and standing still for 5-10 minutes...at least catch some local news on the drive home or something or catch a "Cheaters" episode leaving a parking garage at night lmao