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k so the time has come to change out the deck!.. i want sirius radio SO damn bad i am willing to shell out the coin for the double din..


I have ordered the metra double din kit and the wiring harness they make..

I WANT to get the clarion nx602 along with the rear view back up camera and then hook it up to sirius.

I need to know what else i need to make everything work.
will the speakers be worse because of the internal amp on the clarion unit? will it be better?

I know nothing when it comes to audio in our cars so please enlighten me fellas.

It says the nx602 is OEM steering wheel remote ready so how do i get the buttons to function with the deck for volume and skip track??? will the wiring harness i ordered make that all work??

any further input i missed is also greatly appreciated. thanks in advance everyone!

AnthraciteTypeS

If you want to be able to watch video while youre driving then do yourself a favor and go to radioshack or wherever and grab a basic 5pin 30 amp relay .. about 1/4 the cost of an actual 'official, if u will,parking brake bypass module. You should be able to find instructions for wiring it through google or youtube..its easy and takes 10min

As for the steering wheel controls i have a pioneer unit which is obviously different from yours but what i had to was buy a steering wheel adaptor (pac swi-ps). You program it through the module where you can select what button does what control. Again peice of cake to wire.

Lastly...the sound quality. Lets just say i was AMAZED. Youd honestly think i put a component setup in the car. Thats how shitty the factory bose head unit is. My friend has an amplified component setup on his 08 accord coupe with the stock head unit, and its incomparable how much louder and clearer mine is. Stock deck is a joke if youre into music like myself.

The sirius should be a standard install, but make sure you dont need to buy an adapter to make it work, because i plan to do the same thing and even though my din's "xm/sirius ready" i still need a pretty expensive adapter..

AnthraciteTypeS

Oh and the backup cam should plug right in as well

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sweet man thanks.. i'm gonna go to clarion tomorrow and see what they now as well. apparently you can go directly to clarion to buy their products and thus cut out the usually distributor and save some cash too!! clarion's office happens to be 2 miles from my house as well which is just lovely.

civicdrivr

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I needed to get a line output converter to bump up the gain on the stock speakers since the stock amp didnt like the aftermarket radio outputs (this was on three different radio, across two different manufacturers).

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_127SOEM...4.html?tp=3486

This is the interface you need if you want to keep the steering wheel controls:

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_127SWIJ...-SWI-JACK.html

They tend to have a slight delay though.

If youre getting new speakers and throwing the Blose stuff in the trash, then dont worry about the line output converter.

civicdrivr

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Forgot to mention, solder all your connections and use heat shrink for the best quality. Dont twist the wires together and tape them.

Epiphany

Also looking to do a double DIN, and possibly replace the speakers as well. How simple is this to do as a DIY? I've never done wiring myself. If I'm not planning on adding a subwoofer (cost), is it worth it to upgrade the speakers?

js017

Hey just did it to my 05 TL and it was a pain in the ....., but if you are whiling and have an idea of doing some work your self..please feel free to do it because it is well worth it..file:///Users/johnnatan017/Pictures/infuse%204G/2012-04-29%2019.51.48.jpg

ParaSurfer1979

Something to also to keep in mind. If you drop in this deck and you dont replace the speakers, the wattage of the sound from the deck will drop by half compared to the stock radio. Why you're probably asking?

The stock BOSE system is a 2-ohm system. If you run the Clarion deck to those stock Bose 2-ohm speakers I'll sound like 1/2 the power it actually has because the Clarion decks amp is 4-ohm. So what can you do? Buy clarion speakers or any other 4-ohm speakers you choose and you'll be set.

js017

Im trying to upload this picture so can see how it did it... hold on

js017

idk why but I can't upload any images.... but I wouldn't spend any money on converters... I have an 05 tl and I did a double din on it... as soon as I have my limitation taken off from acurazene Ill show you...

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i would like to keep my stock speakers. they are pretty damn good i think. i just dont want it to sound worse... nor do i wanna add amp or woofer. if i got the clarion speakers would it sound as good as stock? the clarion speakers are not even that much at all actually. what size are the fronts and rears??? and tweeters??? i need to get as well?

civicdrivr

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Why swap the stock speakers if you are content with them?

mikebikelife

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I put a pioneer double din in mine , lost the hand controls .
the sound is much more touchy, volume at 10 is as loud as you want it with the windows up.

AnthraciteTypeS

From my experience, I had no issues with the gain on the stock speakers. It sounded a LOT better than the stock head unit with 0 tweaking.

civicdrivr

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Maybe because the headunits Ive ran used 4v preamp outputs (compared to the typical 2.5v outputs) which is why my sub would overpower the speakers? I try not to use the built in EQ, I like to tune everything from the amp, then move to the EQ if I can't get it quite right. The line output converter lets me tune the Bose speakers.

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civic i think i wanna get both of those things u listed it's just that i dunno who the fak is able to do a good job around here with regards to audio. i luv the bose speakers they are everything i want/need.

i'm about to go to clarion and ask a bunch of questions so i will keep you all posted. hopefully they will have all of my answers

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went there and they are fucking retards... they couldn't even answer ONE of my questions.

this kinda crap makes me not even wanna buy their product.

why is this so difficult?

i think i'm gonna just see an audio shop and see what they say.. i wanna get this al done professionally too since i hate F ups especially if it meant driving without audio.

civicdrivr

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Why are you having someone else install it?

All the harnesses you get come with pin outs. Its just a game of connect the wires. If you have any questions, we can help.

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really?

when i did my ford probe it was a nightmare.. no colors lined up

civicdrivr

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I used the Metra harness and everything I had matched up. Ive done it a few times too

There is a slight bit of work getting the steering wheel controls and the line output converter hooked up, since they are run in-line with everything else, but if you take your time its not difficult at all.

It sucks we dont live closer, I actually enjoy wiring and Id do the harness for you.

AnthraciteTypeS

I didn't need a line out converter , so just be sure you do before you order one

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thanks guys... really.. i'm in the process of looking for some local answers about the headunit i want before jumping off the cliff and getting both those items... i have not bought the unit yet so i still have my options open.. just the metra dash kit and harness...

civic if it all lines up i will be doing it myself... i'd rather know it's done right then trust someone's word for it who took my money lol...

from the sounds of it fellas i'll be able to hook this up on a lovely saturday of my choice.

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anthrracite what headunit did u put in that worked with the factory steering wheel buttons??


u was under the impression if the deck says button compatible it'd just work cause of the metra harness?? maybe only some decks?

Type-ES

No matter what radio you use you will need the interface adapter (pac swi)

The line out converter is for the amp.

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^^^ sorry yes ur right... rephrase the question.. what deck did u get which u did not need the line converter for?

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http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/produ...adc1740c96en02

howabout this pioneer deck?

it says it has

3 Sets of RCA Preouts (2V) for System Expansion??

i knwo jack all about audio so anyways... is this deck good and should i get it over the clarion?

AnthraciteTypeS

I have a pioneer p4300dvd. Just about every headunit i've dealt with since 2000+ has rca outputs in the back that goes directly to the amp. You would only need a line out converter if you were doing something like running a sub with the stock bose deck. In this case you splice a line output converter into the rear speakers to gain a signal, and then the rca's come out of the that to the amp. I did it like this for 3 years but it beware, it doesn't sound anything NEAR an aftermarket deck of just about any brand/price.

Back on topic, like i originally said, I DID need an adapter for the steering wheel controls to work. model PAC SWI-PS.

I would HIGHLY recommend the pioneer p4200/4300dvd. in a heartbeat. Not sure how much youre looking to spend but you can do everything you want on it (sirius, backup cam, etc etc, sd card slot for every song you ever owned, video, usb, navi for an extra $250 or something although i hear its not that good, i'd rather just use google maps on my droid.. etc) The only difference between the two is the 4300 is a yr newer and has integrated pandora that you can control through your iphone (only for iphones though) Waste IMO, if theres a big price diff, go with the 4200dvd.

Oh and for $1000, I'd never buy that deck you posted. It is a more nav oriented and lacks a lot of the features that the decks i mentioned have

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well i really want navi.. and i don't even have a smart phone if u can believe it I have a Sonim xp1300 BRCK OF A PHONE. nor do i have an i pod.. i'm doing this for navi and satelite radio basically, and hands free calling cause u get ticketed now for driving on the phone.

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k i'm looking at this clarion one now off ebay... MUCH better price. still has everything i want and need... but 400 less! muahhahah
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2011-Clarion-...#ht_2259wt_962

so i just need to get the steering wheel adapter thingy and sirius radio hookup shyt.


and then i guess i need this to make the satelite radio function completely?

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/SIRIUS-Satell...ht_3421wt_1085


where should i mount the antenna.. I think there is a GPS antenna ALSO!!!! yikes

timberland73

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Agreed! I have the 4200 and absolutely love it! The sd card is freaking amazing!

grammo

I just put a pioneer avh-p4400bh in mine.. wired up the rear view camera too. I didn't need any line out converters or anything. Speakers are real loud even at low volume on the unit. I used the Metra ASWC interface for the steering wheel controls.
Love the streaming google music.. Some pics...

civicdrivr

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Generally, yes, but as I said the only reason I got the LOC was to be able to adjust the gain on the stock amp. The LOC has those adjustment screws on it. It does have RCAs as well, which I didnt use.

Ive used two Pioneers and now a Kenwood, and every single one of them made the speakers sound way too low.

The first Pioneer I had (AVIC-F90BT, absolute piece of shit) required me to turn the volume up 3/4ths of the way up for what would typically amount to ~5 on the stock radio. With the LOC, Im not able to have proper volume controls from the headunit.

If youre running aftermarket speakers and amps with an aftermarket radio, dont bother with the LOC since its pointless.

BigHausCL-S

Ive got a Kenwood DNX5120 with the stock Bose speakers. Installed without the need of a LOC. There is a preout gain control within the deck so the Bose amp doesnt sound overpowering.

Keep in mind that handsfree(bluetooth) will require anouther reciever in addition to the Sirius tuner you already found. I think my Kenwood one was around $100 bucks.

As for the antennas, I ran my GPS one in the center of dashboard. The deck is currently out of my car and I was thinking of moving it somewhere else. Where does anyone else mount theyre antennas???

BigHausCL-S

Edit: That Pioneer you were looking at did have built in bluetooth so disregard that part.

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wtf i need something to run blootooth as well??? makes no sense

Epiphany

Is there a double DIN DIY around? Did some searching but can't find one.

civicdrivr

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You have to make sure the unit youre looking has BT built in, not just BT compatible.

richardparker

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Get a kenwood.
you won't be dissapointed.

azeezp13

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I installed a Pioneer AVIC without any prior how-to knowledge before the installation. All you need is the dask kit and get the metra harness off ebay, all the colours line-up. Don't listen to future shop or any of those audio shops that tell you that you'll need new speakers or a wiring harness that uses the factory amp. The metra harness has a blue wire that you hook up that can bypass the factory amp and use the one built into your head unit.