well now that ive got a few extra bucks to spend im looking at possibly some jl audio stuff so which will sound best? 2 12w6v2s, 2 10w7s, or 1 13w7, all would be with the jl 1000/1 thanks

 

im not sure what exactly you are going for but, i would suggest you listen to these combinations and figure out which one you like the best. because the phrase "best" seems pretty subjective and vague. Are you lookin for Sound Quality, or SPL? or both? What type of music do you listen to? which other components do you have? sorry for drillin' ya, but i think we need to have some more information to work with before the pro's here can help you engineer a combo for you

 

the V2's will be the most effecient with the power you feed them. This is what I was told by a JL dealer. Other then that, pick your flavor.

 

well i want both, i want loud but it needs to sound good to, i listen to rap, and rock and i have no other components, sorry about that lol

 

Well, I personally think that the 13W7 would sound best. The 2 12"s should play louder. Since you have no other components SQ can't matter, so you probably want it to be louder.

I can't believe you are spending that kind of money and the rest of the system is stock.

 

are you looking to build a system, or do you just want some boom?

 

I agree - your music will sound like shit with the stock stuff in there with that kind of bass.

 

balance is way out of whack! unless u like it that way?

 

I'd put the 1000/1 on a single 12 (or even 10) in a sealed box, and take the savings and start a stereo upgrade fund for later upgrade of mains and main amp. If you haven't bought the 1000/1 yet, I'd consider a 3 or 5 channel amp to save you installation space down the road.

 

This problem here is that you have everything stock... Like Eld and Derrick and others said.

The 13W7 will play "better' meaning more accurate (if you get the right box BUILT for it) but the 2 -12's will play louder as they will move more air. The 13W7 can handle more power but moving air is where you get your bass from.

What you should do if you just want boom, get 1-12 put it in a ported enclosure and then spend the rest on the stock system upgrade..

What's your budget? Maybe we can recommend something that you can get to go aftermarket for everything..

Do you already have this equipment or are you going to purchase it? IF you dont have it there are much better places to spend your money on with regard to your system to make it sound "BETTER"


Ryan

 

Also.. The W7 is 86.3 in sensitivity and the w6 is 85.9 not much of a difference... however the 13W6 is 87.4 which WOULD play louder (with the same amount of power) then the W7 however the W7 would sound better.

BTW not sure if this matters but the 2'12's are going to take up alot more room.. Might just wanna save space and go with the W7 unless you can get by with 1-12 and put the money somewhere else.

RYan

 

Calculated the Sd and xmax of the subs, the loudest would be as follows on a JL 1000/1

1 13w7
2 10w7
at last 2 12 w6.

Remember the w7 line has more surface area due to the overoll surrond yielding to a higher sd.

 

I really doubt 1 10W7 will be louder than 2 12W6V2s...but it could be close I guess because of the crazy XMax the W7s have

 

Calculating the area and the travel does let you calculate the theoretical total potential air moved, true. But it doesn't tell you how much power you need to generate to hit that number.

If you do the calculation based on 1W/1M sensitivity ratings, I believe that at a given power output level, the 2 12" will be the loudest. Of course, it's *possible* that the W7 will reach its full travel with the 100/1.

I think you also neglected the effects of acoustic coupling of two drivers in close proximity - that's +3dB for free right there.

 

I personally have heard all the setups. The 13w7 with a 1000/1 was the loudest. Heres the # for air displacment.

10w7= 53.820 for 2 woofers =107.64
12w6v2= 50.570 for 2 woofers = 101.14
13w7= 134.1875

 

This is for all 3 setups at full xmax

 

damn those W7s are for real - I would love to get one in my ride, but my current setup is more than I expected.

 

Yes, I understand. Of the three the one that is capable of the most displaced air is the loudest., if you're reaching that excursion - which is a function of efficiency and power in.

Have you heard all of these in the same car?

 

thanks guys as a matter of fact one of my friends told me today that i should replace components also and i wanted to see what yall thought, but yall got to it before i did,lol anyways i do want to be loud and sound good, i want to be heard a block or so away but i really dont no what to get, i have about a 1200 to 1500 limit, or try to stay as cheap as psosible w/ the best stuff i can get

 

Glad I don't live in your town... : )

 

You are not going to be heard a block away with a $1200 limit. Let alone sound Clear. Maybe if you put 4 - 12's in there you could hear the bass.

Save the money on those $$ subs and get some nice components and get 2-12 w3's.. They sound just as good IMO but can't play AS loud. But with 2 of them it will be fine.

Ryan

 

yup - I have 2 12W3V2s and it really does hit and play very loud and clear. Then you could spend some on some new door speakers also - but your $1200 limit wont get much if you want all new good stuff. My system cost more than twice that - and I got some real good deals on a few of the items.

I would say you get a few pieces at a time, but get good items each time you buy something. Dont get in a hurry or your system will sound like crap.

 

well i was planning on buying my stuff from ebay, becuase thats the cheapest for brand new stuff, well if 1200 isnt enough, then what is, like i said i wanna be loud but sound good. what should i buy when im ready to?

 

Yes all three in my TL, I switch woofers like shoes. Today I jsut put some 12w3v2 in. I test woofers out. Usually on my 500/1 or 1000/1. My friend owns a audio shop. When it comes to JL woofers I actually know what I am talking about. Yes the efficiency of the w7 line sucks. For instance the 2 12w3v2 are louder than a 12w7 sealed. Or a 12w7 ported on a 500/1 is as loud as a 13w7 sealed on a 1000/1.

 

If you are looking for LOUD I say 4 12W3v2 sealed or ported off of a 1000/1

 

Well hell if you are going 4 12's just put 2 1000's to them..

Just kidding.. Basically IF you really wanted LOUD and CLEAR I would say you have to spend in the $4000 range. You don't have to .. but again it comes down to WHAT you consider CLEAR. I mean I know friends that have no clue the difference between say Infinities and Focals. They honestly CANNOT hear the differece.. IF this is you.. then screw it get something cheap that plays LOUD. MB Quartz come to mind (although they are VERY good speakers as well..) You don't NEED Focals or DLS IF this is the case.

If however YOU CAN tell the difference I say get the best components you can afford and then just get a few subs.. Any of the JL line will do.. Hell the W3's if you have enough of them will POUND.. Ask Ou Sig.

Me I spend way more than needed.. But I wanted the best and well you will pay for it. Mine also plays VERY loud.. I have 800W going to each sub and about 300-400W going to each SIDE of my front components. I will say that I have them gained down a bit, but not much. YOU CAN hear me from a couple blocks away.. but i rarely play it THAT loud.

I would honestly say that you need to spend at least $2500 or so to get a CLEAN LOUD system with Pro install.

Ryan

 

Hmmm.....4 12's in a TSX

 

now i bet the weight of that would totally balance out the power gains of the Hondata ECU

 

<-- 4 12's in a tsx

by the summer im aiming for 2 w/ 1000 wrms to each

 

lol...

 

I Was thinking about doing 4 12's on 2 500/1s

 

ill stick to one sub, thank you very much

 

I love having my one w7 when people ask WTF is back there.

 

I dont really think your stock alternator will even come close to pushing out 2000 watts considering it is 105 amps MAX. unless you plan on getting a high output one, I would stick to around 1000 watts RMS with the stock electrical system because that is all it will power.

 

yep

i plan to get a h.o. one from the same place i got one for my camaro

 

i didnt no u could get a high output altenator for the tsx? where can i get one? thanks

 

im pretty sure you can get ur stock alt. wound up

its called an armature shop or somethin like that

my uncle took me to a local shop b/c he's friends w/ the guys

i believe ohio generator is a popular company

or try highoutputalternator.com

i'll prob. just get the stock one wound, for the camaro i got a rebuilt oem one