rmarin2

It wasn't a very difficult task, just very time consuming! I have to say that the Pioneer sub is a definite improvement over the stock sub! It doesn't give the same sound as a ported sub, but its very close to it!

I was able to fit the sub in the stock location by removing a metal bar that runs just underneath it. It was spot welded in 4 spots, so I simply drilled them out without any problems. I then had to enlarge stock hole so that I could fit the new 10" sub. I used a dremel with a metal bit. That took the most time because I wanted to be careful and neat with it! I made a new 9" diameter hole and fit the 10" perfectly. I used some 1/2" foam insulation between the sub and dash to help with vibrations. I used 14"x2" hex self tapping screws to bolt the sub down.

In order to the stock cover back on, I had to cut some of the interior plastic as well as remove the red lens for the stop light. Since I have a spoiler with the LED it didn't matter. You also can't tell that the red lens is missing because of my tint! So I was lucky with that!

All I really have left to do it just secure the sub a little bit more! Other than that it's done! I am happy with the new results!!

Ben, aka Carfreak, took pics so I will have him post them for me!

Thanks to all those that helped with all my technical questions!!

-Rich

rmarin2

Here is the link for some pics:

http://www.acura-tl.com/forum/showth...651#post416651

Mr Hyde

so if I did this I woudl have to give up the 3rd LED. or modify it in some way?? Hmmmm my WW lip spoiler doesnt have an LED, so I would need to fab something I guess. Need to swing by and take a look.

drcookie

Mr. Hyde, when you said 3rd LED, did you mean 3rd brake light ?
If you install the OEM spoiler, you could use the 3rd brake light on the spoiler, and unwire the one that near the sub position.

Just my $0.02.

Cheers

rmarin2

That's cool man! I say you would have to find a way to modify it. I think it would be harder for you because the bulbs sick out from the inside of the plastic and I think that would seriously get in the way. I didn't investigate that cause I simply removed it, but if memory serves it could definitely be in the way! The only other person I know that did this exact install was T.Diddy. He said he trimmed off some of the lens in order to make the cover fit.

Mr Hyde

Thanx but as I already stated, I already have the Wings West lip spoiler on my car, and since it doesn't have a brake light built into it, I still need to maintain the high mount stop light on the rear deck. Hmm gonna hav eto take a close look at yours Rich and see what if anything can be done.

Till then my Orion Amp is sitting unused for now.

miwa

rmarin. that is quite impressive. Imagine if u never covered it and people see it all the time when they pass your car. they'd do a double take!! but of course, that would just be inviting a breakin. nonetheless, kudos!!

s1301950

I'm also on a very similar situation. But i was wondering if i can use my new amp (sony xprs) with the stock sub, or the sub just won't take that much power. I really don't wanta lose that interior brake light at the back.

Kenneth

oVerBoost

hmm interesting but arent those metal bars that you took out meant to keep the rear frame stiffer? I'm not quite sure but did removing those bars change the way your car drives?

fsttyms1

are you talking about the 2 bars directly under teh stock sub? those are the trunk tensioner bars to hold open the trunk lid

rmarin2

The bar that I removed has nothing to do with the frame of the car or the tension bars for the trunk. My theory is that metal brace is more to make the rear deck more rigid. It is a small piece of metal that has about 4 spot welds into the rear deck. It sits directly underneath the stock sub.

-Rich

fsttyms1

ah the one to help protect the sub!

s1301950

What's the model number of hte open air pioneer sub i can use in my acura again ? I've found TS-W254F on ebay for a pretty good price. Also with that metal bar removed, the truck door would still stay opened when it's opened right ?

Thanks all,
Kenneth

s1301950

Actually i just realized that the stock sub in my 2001 TL is only 8". Any 8" free air sub out there you guys recommend ? I'm desperate. Have been running without a sub for like 3 weeks. now..

Thanks,
Kenneth

soccerbenk

yea theres a kicker one but they only come in pairs

s1301950

Is that the KICKER 01C84 ?

Kenneth

soccerbenk

naw it was like the kicker rx 8 or sumtin use the search button there is a whole post like this one with instlation instructions n all

rmarin2

The bar I am talking about has nothing to do with the trunk. This mod does not affect your trunk in any way shape or form. If you look at the stock sub, you will see a metal bar that is directly under it. That is the bar I removed.

-Rich

soccerbenk

hey rmarin i am about to do this and i am jus wondering does it really sound that much better than the stock one? does it hit harder too?