Does anyone know of a neutral switch/wire that exists on a 6MT. I've tried searching and no go. I know some MT cars do have them.. If someone has a service manual can they check it out?

BTW ordered a 2005 CG 6MT/no nav in Canada. Delivery date of Nov30
Thanks!
Great Forum!!!

 

What are you trying to install? Remote start?

 

Negative, Ghost Rider, the pattern is full. We have reverse only according to the exploded MT views.

While looking, I did discover that all the 8mm bolts on the MT are LH threaded.

 

Thanks for looking it up Im trying to find the best/safest way to set up a remote start on the tsx. Compustar makes one so I will probably go that route..

 

There are a number of systems that allow this sort of thing, and I have seen an add-on module that is supposed to detect shifter position.

I've never seen one that I thought was reliable enough to risk, myself. It's a dangerous thing to do.

 

Very true, it is dangerous if not installed correctly. Can someone check in the manual if there is a neutral safety wire on the ECM? If not ill have to go another route.. Thanks!

 

That's what I DID, dude...

 

i have installed several remote starts on manuels. what i have done in the past is using a magnetic reed switch (commonly used on home security for windows and doors) and by carefully positioning a bracket holding the switch near the shift linkage. then attaching the magnet to the shift mechinism so that the switch only makes contact when the shifter is in neutral works perfect. then just tap the starter after the clutch relay and your set.
you will find that on the TSX the large weight affixed to the shift linkage is a perfect spot to attach the magnet and you can fabricate a bracket using a peice of backstrap off the transmission using any available bolt handy. i have drilled a hole and tapped the hole to accept a nice 6mm bolt to the weight to attach the magnet to.
all manuel start systems require the ebrake wire have a ground signal present to start the car. using this switch installation will prevent it from attempting to start if the transmission is in any gear.
but your right the compustar alarms have manual safe which means you have to close and lock the car with the engine running or it will not remote start.
the problem is the compustar alarms suck for range, the remotes paint comes off and they are generally a cheap peice of shit. if you want a nice alarm i would get the Autopage RS850 LCD i happen to have 2 brand new oned in my garage if you want one. ill sell them for well less than retail. send me a PM if your interested.

 

It's true, you can do that.

Depending on the car, the mag switch trick can be a bear to make work due to positioning. You have to either trigger only when in Neutral (many positions, the lever carrying the magnet is closer to the reed switch when in a gear than when in the central neutral position, or use multiple switches and trigger when in any position but neutral (then creating the two-engine plane issue - twice as many things to go wrong).

I've also seen some mag switches fail when in use in camper and slider security installations, so I've never been that confident in them in a potentially dangerous application such as MT remote start. In the scenario above, if they always fail open, your car just won't start... but if it ever failed closed, you'd get a false "neutral" reading - and this is too dangerous to play on the edge, IMO.

 

Great thanks Bass! I have installed Cliffords in the past, how does the Autopage compare? I was thinking of the RSX3.5 with the magnet setup, and a disable switch for the autostart in summer time/valet etc...

 

i have been installing for lets see i guess since about 1988 and since that time i have installed literally hundreds of alarms from about every major manufacturer. and i have also owned several.
i used to be dead set on DEI alarms you would be hard pressed to pull me away from them. but since i got hold of the new Auto page i wouldnt bother with anything else unless you just want a basic system. but for the money the auto page has way more features and is more programmable and also much easier to use than any DEI i have messed with.
as for reliability the only problem i have ever seen linked to the alarm itself is in the old days the park light relay would sometimes fail and the lights wouldnt flash. but i can honestly say i have never seen any alarm just go bad. it almost never happens.
i liked clifford i used to have one in my old 78 pinto before i could afford a nice car. but they have changed hands and designs so much over the years they are now pretty much another DEI unit.
the auto page seems to have the best range. i like their LCD remote because it is easy to operate and understand. you can load them up with features if you want and many of the DEI add on modules can be easily integrated with most systems. so really you can get the best of both worlds.

as for the magnetic switch if you do it correctly the using the weight as i explained you would be suprised how close to nutral the shifter has to be to activate the switch. since it has to have a magnet near it to be closed even if the magnet fell off or the switch got bent somehow it would be near impossible to start the car while in gear. the weight moves forward and back with the shifter when in any gear. you would be passing it each time you cross neutral to select the next gear. so its pretty much impossible to have it activate while in any gear since any gear is either forward or reverse of center.

but for the record i usually dont install one on a manuel unless the owner is in the habit of selecting neutral every time they leave the car. the switch is just another margin of safety to ensure it wont start in gear. also i wire them so the ebrake has to be set to start it.

 

Thanks for all the info. zzzed posted this setup with springs. It seems like a fairly good backup system. Maybe both in series would be better as long as the shifter is not grounded...

http://www.carsound.com/UBB/ultimate...c;f=3;t=002286

 

hmm interesting, not a bad idea. it wont work for every car but certainly will get the job done. i wonder if thoes springs might rattle though?