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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 11:41 PM
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Moderators That Are "Moderate"

It would be a nice if the moderators (just a few) on this forum were more neutral in regards to the topics they participated in. I believe that when you accept the role of moderator, it is your responsibility to maintain a peaceful and accepting environment. However, it is ridiculous when some of the moderators here habitually participate in pissing matches against other members just so they could advance their own agendas. What makes it even worse is when moderators join other members in attacking/insulting members.

Just like any person who accepts a role of authority, a neutral stance should be taken by the moderators among the members. One member shouldn't be favored more than another just because they have similar opinions.

This is an Acura forum. It would be nice to be able to post in here without having the same few moderators constantly spreading their anti-Honda/Acura bias and calling us out every time we show a bit of enthusiasm for Acura on ACURAzine.

My suggestion: Replace some of the moderators or teach them how to do their job.

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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 11:43 PM
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 08:24 AM
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i have yet to see/notice a mod get into a pissing contest here, "as a mod"
every body has a right to voice their opinion, even mods, but if a mod is taking advantage of the authority for his personal benefit, then yeah, i'd agree with you.

nothing wrong with pissing contest as long as people dont cross the line, like start throwing personal torments.

but the part where u said
What makes it even worse is when moderators join other members in attacking/insulting members.
that shouldn't be allowed unless the guy deserves it.
but again, i have yet to see a mod do that.

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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by VTEC Racer
It would be a nice if the moderators (just a few) on this forum were more neutral in regards to the topics they participated in. I believe that when you accept the role of moderator, it is your responsibility to maintain a peaceful and accepting environment. However, it is ridiculous when some of the moderators here habitually participate in pissing matches against other members just so they could advance their own agendas. What makes it even worse is when moderators join other members in attacking/insulting members.

Just like any person who accepts a role of authority, a neutral stance should be taken by the moderators among the members. One member shouldn't be favored more than another just because they have similar opinions.

This is an Acura forum. It would be nice to be able to post in here without having the same few moderators constantly spreading their anti-Honda/Acura bias and calling us out every time we show a bit of enthusiasm for Acura on ACURAzine.

My suggestion: Replace some of the moderators or teach them how to do their job.

(rant off)
Firstly, appreciate the feedback. However, that being said, I personally have not seen a moderator act on what you're describing. A moderator is allowed and has the right to have an opinion on an issue. Amongst the team that the Admins have assembled, you have a wide-array of personalities...and that is by design. You have some who are more vocal, some who are less...but, again, by design by the Admin team. And also, an absolute right for the individual brought on to decide if they want to weigh in on a topic or not...

The moderator's main job is to keep the topic on track. Make certain that attacks are not personal...and things don't get indecent (i.e. obscene). There may be the odd time a moderator may participate in a joke but that is most of the time in Ramblings and if it were elsewhere, and if inappropriate, believe me, that person will be reprimanded by the team and higher-ups.

If there was a particular thread that you believe has a moderator using his/her authority to their advantage, I would appreciate a PM so that I can have a look...

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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 09:57 AM
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Well said Henry. And I must reiterate, Mods are entitled to their opinions as well regarding any topic, just because they are a mod doesn't exclude them from participating in any discussion on the board or remaining neutral for that matter. They, as well as every other member of the board, have every right to voice any opinion they may have as long as it abides by the policies of the board.
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 10:31 AM
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Over the time I've been here I seen mods join in with dissing other members as well.
But,I've rarely seen a mod/s just jump on members with attacking out of the blue.
Also the mods that I've seen only said something when anyone else would've said something too.
Just to like jump in with the crowd over commen sense issues or repeated nonsense,not to be threating.
If it was threating or you feel like they are singling you out then speak up and don't let them make you feel like you should not say certin things.
My experiances though are most are ok,and some are just like anyone else that's uptight like they haven't got no draws in a while.
Everyone has a bad day here and there.
We could hang all the mods and watch Azine explode with a bunch of a-holes everywhere but,NOT RECOMMENDED.
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 10:46 AM
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I've only seen mods join in on the fun when OP or another poster is being obscenely stupid. They never let it get out of hand, however.

These people are AZ users first, mods second. They're entitled to join in the discussion and have their own opinion, like everybody else. Their job as a moderator starts when something unprovoked or out of line happens that is detrimental to the discussion (going off topic, personal attacks, etc.).

I think what happens here is you're seeing mods when they're not moderating, and just participating on the forums as one of the guys, which I think is perfectly acceptable. They're still human, not robots. I think they do a respectable job when the time comes, which is why AZ is both the biggest and one of the most civilized forums I've been a part of. I doubt that's any small feat.

to the AZ moderators and admins.

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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Aman
...They're still human, not robots.
We dont know about yummy.
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
We dont know about yummy.
Well, that goes without saying.
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Firstly, appreciate the feedback. However, that being said, I personally have not seen a moderator act on what you're describing. A moderator is allowed and has the right to have an opinion on an issue. Amongst the team that the Admins have assembled, you have a wide-array of personalities...and that is by design. You have some who are more vocal, some who are less...but, again, by design by the Admin team. And also, an absolute right for the individual brought on to decide if they want to weigh in on a topic or not...

The moderator's main job is to keep the topic on track. Make certain that attacks are not personal...and things don't get indecent (i.e. obscene). There may be the odd time a moderator may participate in a joke but that is most of the time in Ramblings and if it were elsewhere, and if inappropriate, believe me, that person will be reprimanded by the team and higher-ups.

If there was a particular thread that you believe has a moderator using his/her authority to their advantage, I would appreciate a PM so that I can have a look...


Well said. In addition to moderating threads, mods are members of the forum as well and are free to jump into a conversation/debate etc. As was mentioned by Yummy, I'd be curious to see some specifics which backup the statements in the OP...
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 10:28 AM
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Well odehboy and billy's thread I think are examples
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by juniorbean


As was mentioned by Yummy, I'd be curious to see some specifics which backup the statements in the OP...
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This could end up with alot of people getting p'ed off, mods/members/administrators thread getting closed or locked, banned members, and mods leaning on members in the future that messed with them.
If members started digging up stuff and posting in the open.
I'll help you guys/mods
,if there is I issue do not start throwing mods under the bus in the open,It would not end up good for nobody and azine flows pretty smoothly now.

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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 01:59 PM
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way to play the "I'm the victim" card here

Some of you may not have spent much time in Automotive News but the OP is basically a decaf version of msl82, except he's a manic fanatic of Honda instead of Hyundai. And he has some sort of grudge with Toyota/Lexus or something, as if the signature weren't indicative enough. Basically what happens is in threads regarding Honda or comparisons to Honda or its models, he starts making instigative posts to people who continue to disagree with him. Then when basically everyone disagrees with him, he tries to get sympathy.

You don't need to believe me.... all you need to do is read his posts. I'm almost positive he's referring to this thread, even though I don't see any moderators crossing the line.... not even close. If this isn't the thread, I'd be curious to see which thread he's talking about too.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...708373&page=31

It isn't the first thread where he's done the aforementioned, and it definitely won't be the last.
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 02:06 PM
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moderators are members too, so they're entitled to their opinions like any other member, whether it be biased or not...
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 02:11 PM
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For the record, we value all opinions, comments that further a thread...it's what it is, a discussion.

So, VTEC Racer's comments are welcomed...even if the majority may not share his sentiments.


And in that thread Costco has posted, I do not believe in any way that dom has used his status as a moderator to further his point (or, abuse his powers)...

dom is certainly opinionated and even I have butted heads with him before. But, that is over a subject and certainly has nothing to do with his role...He's a fine moderator IMO.
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
For the record, we value all opinions, comments that further a thread...it's what it is, a discussion.

So, VTEC Racer's comments are welcomed...even if the majority may not share his sentiments.


And in that thread Costco has posted, I do not believe in any way that dom has used his status as a moderator to further his point (or, abuse his powers)...

dom is certainly opinionated and even I have butted heads with him before. But, that is over a subject and certainly has nothing to do with his role...He's a fine moderator IMO.
I agree completely

I don't agree with a lot of the 4G TL folks, which is why I don't even bother going to that side. But I'm not implying that they should go anywhere.
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Silva-type-s
moderators are members too, so they're entitled to their opinions like any other member, whether it be biased or not...
I see it the same,most of them are into the same stuff everyone else here is into aswell.
I don't have a problem with mods when they say what ever they say even if it was bad.
But if I mod could not take the same in return after questionable responses then that mod should never say anything or offer his input.
They're babies among all of us.
Not to be directed towards any person specifically
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Costco
way to play the "I'm the victim" card here

Some of you may not have spent much time in Automotive News but the OP is basically a decaf version of msl82, except he's a manic fanatic of Honda instead of Hyundai. And he has some sort of grudge with Toyota/Lexus or something, as if the signature weren't indicative enough. Basically what happens is in threads regarding Honda or comparisons to Honda or its models, he starts making instigative posts to people who continue to disagree with him. Then when basically everyone disagrees with him, he tries to get sympathy.

You don't need to believe me.... all you need to do is read his posts. I'm almost positive he's referring to this thread, even though I don't see any moderators crossing the line.... not even close. If this isn't the thread, I'd be curious to see which thread he's talking about too.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...708373&page=31

It isn't the first thread where he's done the aforementioned, and it definitely won't be the last.
Yes you hit it dead on....

He does the same thing over at the "Temple of Vtec" and as you already mentioned by his signature I can only image what user name and chaos he creates over at "Club Lexus".

In the 4G TL section where he usually posts its like Jekyl and Hyde. One post he's asking someone to be polite and the next he's calling people names and another time even supporting others that where making fun of the OP's wife/girlfriend who is visually impaired. This (among others doing the same over there) is why I also rarely post in the 4G section the last few months.

I agree with Yumcha that Vtec is obviously still free to voice his opinion, comment etc but I hope you guys take it with a grain of salt. When you look at his history here and at other sites its easy to see what his agenda and motives are.

Personally I agree with others also that Acurazine is one of the better Automotive sites on the internet and this due mostly because of the mods. Just go look at the chaos going on over at sites like TOV where racial slurs are thrown around, etc and no one ever gets banned.

Keep up the good work mods as the majority of us know its a tough and thankless job.
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by cp3117
and another time even supporting others that where making fun of the OP's wife/girlfriend who is visually impaired.
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 04:58 PM
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to reiterate what others have said, what most people fail to recognize is that moderators are members of this community as well. their opinions matter just as much as any other members. i'm a moderator in other forums and moderators voice their opinions freely as well.

i've never seen moderators get out of hand in here and they seem to handle themselves in a professional manner.
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 11:38 AM
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only time ive seen mods "diss" other members was when the "other members" were out of line and/or postwhoring
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 02:06 AM
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Just my

I like to think I'm fairly OG here - I've seen lots of rants about mods/admins, been through a few purges or members and management, etc.

Other than one very discrete instance, I can honestly say that the only time I've seen people complain about a moderator's or admin's actions was when that person was COMPLETELY in the wrong from the get go.

Now, let's get this straight. I've seen mods (and *gasp* admins) act like idiots and inconsolable children. They've made asinine and rude comments, and in a few instances have been complete assholes. In those cases, the mods were hammered by their own - a roman style decimation, if you will.

But the VAST majority of time I see members (who happen to be mods/admins) using their wit and sharp tongue (fingers?) to berate someone who completely had it coming due to their language/comments/previous behavior on the board. They did not use their mod powers in that fashion - they simply conjured the spirit of Sarlacc/Buttplug/AD and brought the smack down.
And good for them.

If someone is trying to e-thug, this is the wrong place for them. More power to those mods who have the ability to set down their ban-hammers and show idiots what they are, and keep the forums fun and lively for everyone else.
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