SidVicious

Here are some pics (not the greatest quality) from the guy taking pics with a normal camera (not digi). I got his email address and this is what he sent over. There are some TL and IS 300 pics too.

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/Album...a=13167770&f=0

Enjoy!

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SidVicious
2001 CL Type S w/ NAV in Silver | Wheel Locks | Front Plate (Mounted in the Trunk) | Mobil 1 | Polarg M6 | K&N Filter (Mounted in the Trunk til the old one wears out)
1992 Ford Ranger XLT in Silver | F-150 Springs | 3" Body Lift | K&N Filter | Flowmaster Exhaust

so cal type s_RENAMED

tgif next meet?

tgif = jack daniels buffalo wings and spinach and artichoke dip. . .or another picnic with korean bbq.

i will go to the next meet, i swear on the lakers!

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'01 cl-s blk/blk :: comptech headers, comptech springs, comptech sway bars

[This message has been edited by so cal type s (edited 06-05-2001).]

Chris

haha i swear... everyone from socal has a lowered car... lol

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Acura 3.2CL Type-S w/ Navigation
Black/Ebony

- H&R Sport Springs
- Pirelli P7000 Supersport 235/40ZR17 on stock rims
- Custom CAI
- Cleared Headlights, PIAA 19169
- Tint all around
- Mesh Grill
- Dual 12'' Alpine Type-S Subs
- Kenwood KAC-728S Amp

Chris

so cal type s... where do you live?

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Acura 3.2CL Type-S w/ Navigation
Black/Ebony

- H&R Sport Springs
- Pirelli P7000 Supersport 235/40ZR17 on stock rims
- Custom CAI
- Cleared Headlights, PIAA 19169
- Tint all around
- Mesh Grill
- Dual 12'' Alpine Type-S Subs
- Kenwood KAC-728S Amp

SidVicious

Not everyone! I'm still at stock height and I think I'm gonna stay that way. I'm getting sways for handling and the only lowering i'll do is the H&R's that lower only an inch or so. The Miami guys are the ones who are slamming their cars.



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SidVicious
2001 CL Type S w/ NAV in Silver | Wheel Locks | Front Plate (Mounted in the Trunk) | Mobil 1 | Polarg M6 | K&N Filter (Mounted in the Trunk til the old one wears out)
1992 Ford Ranger XLT in Silver | F-150 Springs | 3" Body Lift | K&N Filter | Flowmaster Exhaust

so cal type s_RENAMED

rancho cucamonga. by the foot of the mountains.



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'01 cl-s blk/blk :: comptech headers, comptech springs, comptech sway bars

SidVicious

ttt ----> bump

Just want to make sure the So Cal guys can get a peek at these!

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SidVicious
2001 CL Type S w/ NAV in Silver | Wheel Locks | Front Plate (Mounted in the Trunk) | Mobil 1 | Polarg M6 | K&N Filter (Mounted in the Trunk til the old one wears out)
1992 Ford Ranger XLT in Silver | F-150 Springs | 3" Body Lift | K&N Filter | Flowmaster Exhaust

CLpower

sweet

Iridium130

Beautiful....thanks for the pics Sid.

Btw, I'm riding at stock height too...



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_-Phil-_! (a.k.a. 'Green Box')
2K1 #10,029 Satin Silver CL-S since 6/13/00 named Laetitia with Navi! Mods : XEPHYR PERFORMANCE CAI~3M Reflective Tint(37%) tint~Hiper Hibrid Plasma "Xenon" road lamps & high-beams~Uniden LRD 6599SWS Radar Detector~Shine by Meguiar's Gold Wax~Member of the Scratched Rims Club~Upgraded cupholder ~

Green Box -4- Mod!!

SidVicious

You really need to learn that transparency stuff.

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SidVicious
2001 CL Type S w/ NAV in Silver | Wheel Locks | Front Plate (Mounted in the Trunk) | Mobil 1 | Polarg M6 | K&N Filter (Mounted in the Trunk til the old one wears out)
1992 Ford Ranger XLT in Silver | F-150 Springs | 3" Body Lift | K&N Filter | Flowmaster Exhaust

Iridium130

yeah tell me about it....



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_-Phil-_! (a.k.a. 'Green Box')
2K1 #10,029 Satin Silver CL-S since 6/13/00 named Laetitia with Navi! Mods : XEPHYR PERFORMANCE CAI~3M Reflective Tint(37%) tint~Hiper Hibrid Plasma "Xenon" road lamps & high-beams~Uniden LRD 6599SWS Radar Detector~Shine by Meguiar's Gold Wax~Member of the Scratched Rims Club~Upgraded cupholder ~

Green Box -4- Mod!!

so cal type s_RENAMED

don't buy the sways. .buy the springs. sways are. . .blah.



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'01 cl-s blk/blk :: comptech headers, comptech springs, comptech sway bars

so cal type s_RENAMED

being from sgv, there are tons of lowered cars. .

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'01 cl-s blk/blk :: comptech headers, comptech springs, comptech sway bars

SidVicious

I'm ready to get the sways already. I've been sold on them. If I don't like them, I'll take em off and sell them here for a little less than what I'm paying for them and get springs. I don't want to look 'not stock' so I can blow the doors off unsuspecting mustangs.

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SidVicious
2001 CL Type S w/ NAV in Silver | Wheel Locks | Front Plate (Mounted in the Trunk) | Mobil 1 | Polarg M6 | K&N Filter (Mounted in the Trunk til the old one wears out)
1992 Ford Ranger XLT in Silver | F-150 Springs | 3" Body Lift | K&N Filter | Flowmaster Exhaust

EricL

The sways help. I tried them with the same idea -- toss them if they didn't work. They help the "sway" in steady state turns and help tighten the cars in transient maneuvers.



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Silver 2001 CL-S with NAVI

• Mud guards
• Wheel locks
• Toyo T1S 235/45ZR17-97W* Proxies on 17x8" SSR Competition wheels (48lbs less than stock)
• Kevlar/SS Brake lines w/Brembos?
• Comptech headers & sways
• Silver AEM CAI
• 10 coats of Zaino magic

fbazakos

its my dream to get a meet like this together someday ... actually more than 2 cars would be great.

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Black 2001 Type S
*Eibach Pro-Kit (Waiting to be installed)
*Xephyr Cold Air Intake
*PIAA 19224, 19169
*Rockford 500a2 [FOR SALE]
*Pioneer 12" @ 400w (x2) [FOR SALE]
*77237-SOK-A02
---Still 2 rims not scratched---

so cal type s_RENAMED

i do believe sways help. .but to a degree. .
i just think for 330 bucks -- since they've raised their price, i don't know why -- the cost/benefit analysis shows you get more for your money?

even the strut bar would be great option. .neuspeed? for 100 bucks seems like a no brainer. i want to check his ride out before i purchase them tho.

but the sways do help. you'll like them.

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'01 cl-s blk/blk :: comptech headers, comptech springs, comptech sway bars

[This message has been edited by so cal type s (edited 06-07-2001).]

SidVicious

Would you (or anyone else) care to elaborate on what the sway bars do versus the strut bar? And the advantage of having both?

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SidVicious
2001 CL Type S w/ NAV in Silver | Wheel Locks | Front Plate (Mounted in the Trunk) | Mobil 1 | Polarg M6 | K&N Filter (Mounted in the Trunk til the old one wears out) | Comptech Sways (on the way) | Sungard Tint (35%,20%) on 6/9/01

1992 Ford Ranger XLT in Silver | F-150 Springs | 3" Body Lift | K&N Filter | Flowmaster Exhaust |

{insert "Green Box 4 Mod!" gif here}

Chris

i don't have sways... but i must say that for $100... the strut bar is seriously a no brainer upgrade. i really felt a difference with the strut... turning and handling is so much tighter.

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Acura 3.2CL Type-S w/ Navigation
Black/Ebony

- H&R Sport Springs
- Pirelli P7000 Supersport 235/40ZR17 on stock rims
- Neuspeed Tower Strut Bar
- Custom CAI
- Cleared Headlights, PIAA 19169
- Tint all around
- Mesh Grill
- Dual 12'' Alpine Type-S Subs
- Kenwood KAC-728S Amp

-=SoCalV6=-

I can't say this technically using phsyics laws and such cause I'm not that smart. I'll just try to explain usin real world examples...

If you had a "L" shaped bar, and stress was applied to one side or any both sides, the interior angle of the L could be altered or "flexed" based on the direction of the stress put on it and the amount. Having a 45 degree angle bar between the two bars of the "L" shape would decrease the tendency of it flexing because you've increased the support between the two bars and reduced it's tendency to contort from stress applied. The same can be said about strut bars. During hard cornering, the frame will have the tendency to flex towards the outer edge of a turn based on the mass of the car carrying it that way already, thereby reducing the responsiveness of the suspension, and the frame itself, and reduce it's reponse to input of directional control. Connecting these two fundamental points on the suspension and frame together decreases it's tendency to produce flex, and increases it's reaction time to your input, i.e., reponse time, thereby making cornering response crisper and quicker. Now, u might say, why not connect other points as well? And indeed, this is finally being done, by the likes of Tanabe that have cross member support add-ons and such to further enhance the structual sturdyness of the frame and it's connecting points. Also note that ur stock Strut bars already have cross-member supports that connect directly to the frame rather than just the suspension connections to the frame.

If you were to increase the turning response of your vehicle, and you were to take corners quicker and harder due to your new found ability, you'd also increase the lateral load transfer of the vehicle and thereby increase the tendency for the car to "sway" towards the outer edge of the turn. Sway bars not only reduce this tendency to put this lateral load from the frame to the suspension (springs/shocks), but also because they bypass the suspension and put the energy directly to the tires from the frame, it can also increase or decrease the tendency of oversteer and understeer, depending on how thick the bar is, what the flex point of the bars our, what type of driveline layout you have (FWD, RWD), etc.

So, in short, sways reduce the lateral load transfer to the suspension, but also add traction stress to the tires, and strut bars, or tie bars increase the responsiveness of turning ability due to the increase in structural integrity and the reduction of reaction towards momentum and therefore frame flexing.

I believe that's correct, some of you cocky geniuses will be quick to point out my faults or misinterpretations or mis-use of terms as I'm sure they're in there waiting to be found . And I'm sure some of you autocrossing heads like Tom3 will probably rip my explanation apart...

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-=SoCalV6=-
1999 TW Accord EX v6 Cpe
aka Valentine with some show 'n go.

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/Album...5449&a=6671899
*Comptech Headers, Sways, V6 Oil Cap/Batt TD
*WeaponR Circuit Pros,CF Intake, Dragon Filter, FPR, Breather, Coo Res, G-Spec Floors, 4-PTs
*Koni Yellows
*18/7.5/+40 Volk TE37s
*225/40/18 Nitto NT-555s
*Tanabe Hyper Medals
*PIAA Hi's,lo's,Fogs, Wedge
*Nology HotWires,Powercore Ig Amp
*Razo Pedals, NE AT Knob
*GD2000BW, WW Touring Wing

[This message has been edited by -=SoCalV6=- (edited 06-08-2001).]

EricL

I would be nice if someone actually posted the increase in torsional rigidity with the "improved" strut bar.

Some of the bars look more robust (that the stock one). The question is one of qualitative information. The Comptech people give out the wrong front and rear sway bar torsion increases -- the front is closer to 20% increase, and the back is closer to 80%. (The figures the tell customers are based on an update to a CL -- not a CLS)

If some of the strut bar people would just jack the car up and measure the decrease in frame flex, it would really help to decide about that mod. I would get one in a second if I could see some hard figures.

Some of this stuff gets so subjective. It is just human nature...



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Silver 2001 CL-S with NAVI

• Mud guards
• Wheel locks
• Toyo T1S 235/45ZR17-97W* Proxies on 17x8" SSR Competition wheels (48lbs less than stock)
• Kevlar/SS Brake lines w/Brembos?
• Comptech headers & sways
• Silver AEM CAI
• 10 coats of Zaino magic

KavexTrax

Back from the grave, Quicktime silent clips
of the Black Angus meet in a galaxy far far away...
http://acuracl.dyndns.org/kavextrax/...0black%20angus

(I would recommend saving them and then watching on your desktop)

[ 08-05-2001: Message edited by: KavexTrax ]

Ogolden1

NOT ME!!! ...and PROUD of it! My car looks HOT with my BEEFY, DEEP-DISH NICHE wheels and tires!