Toyota: Supra News
10-13-2004, 10:19 AM
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Does anyone else have a problem with the potential name, TXS?
grrrr....tryin to bite our style...
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10-13-2004, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Agent_Chen
Supras in general were pretty impressive. Yeah, they were a bit overweight, but they were still fast for what they were.
They also have some of the best resale value I have seen.
10-13-2004, 08:16 PM
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guys easy, wait just a second here. the NSX was a v6 and easily destroyed the Lotus Esprit and Ferrari 355 (or whatever it was). The same technology from way back when can keep up with a v-10 Gallardo and v-12 Murcielago. Honda should keep the balance of the NSX, and if that requires a large v-6, so be it. I'd prefer a VTEC 4.0-4.4L aluminum V8 (2 s2000 engines?) with a silky smooth 6MT (please, no paddle shift, stick to raw purism). I'm sure the next NSX will be lightweight as the old one which is basically from 1989 updated in 1997 is damn light. Give it some more time, I'm sure they'l do a great job. I can't wait for the new NSX and Skyline GT-R.
My guess is a large output V6 or medium output V8 with 350-450 HP, although rumors say 450. N/A, of course, and please RWD. AWD on supercars makes them uber hefty through the turns. I am hoping for AWD on the next GT-R because it's such a great straight line car. Rumors say 350 HP for the next GT-R. The Skyline has always been a heavy car so this sounds pretty good for a TT V6. Let's hope both the NSX and Skyline GT-R come out great, both Honda and Nissan were leaders in the Supercar and 60k sports car classes before the NSX was run into the ground due to lack of new technology and the GT-R was just killed
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My guess is a large output V6 or medium output V8 with 350-450 HP, although rumors say 450. N/A, of course, and please RWD. AWD on supercars makes them uber hefty through the turns. I am hoping for AWD on the next GT-R because it's such a great straight line car. Rumors say 350 HP for the next GT-R. The Skyline has always been a heavy car so this sounds pretty good for a TT V6. Let's hope both the NSX and Skyline GT-R come out great, both Honda and Nissan were leaders in the Supercar and 60k sports car classes before the NSX was run into the ground due to lack of new technology and the GT-R was just killed
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10-13-2004, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by felixthekat
so, about this "super supra"? Personally i think it'd great, Toyota is a huge company without a supercar on their list. NSX killer.
10-13-2004, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by gocubsgo55
guys easy, wait just a second here. the NSX was a v6 and easily destroyed the Lotus Esprit and Ferrari 355 (or whatever it was). The same technology from way back when can keep up with a v-10 Gallardo and v-12 Murcielago. Honda should keep the balance of the NSX, and if that requires a large v-6, so be it. I'd prefer a VTEC 4.0-4.4L aluminum V8 (2 s2000 engines?) with a silky smooth 6MT (please, no paddle shift, stick to raw purism). I'm sure the next NSX will be lightweight as the old one which is basically from 1989 updated in 1997 is damn light. Give it some more time, I'm sure they'l do a great job. I can't wait for the new NSX and Skyline GT-R.
My guess is a large output V6 or medium output V8 with 350-450 HP, although rumors say 450. N/A, of course, and please RWD. AWD on supercars makes them uber hefty through the turns. I am hoping for AWD on the next GT-R because it's such a great straight line car. Rumors say 350 HP for the next GT-R. The Skyline has always been a heavy car so this sounds pretty good for a TT V6. Let's hope both the NSX and Skyline GT-R come out great, both Honda and Nissan were leaders in the Supercar and 60k sports car classes before the NSX was run into the ground due to lack of new technology and the GT-R was just killed.
My guess is a large output V6 or medium output V8 with 350-450 HP, although rumors say 450. N/A, of course, and please RWD. AWD on supercars makes them uber hefty through the turns. I am hoping for AWD on the next GT-R because it's such a great straight line car. Rumors say 350 HP for the next GT-R. The Skyline has always been a heavy car so this sounds pretty good for a TT V6. Let's hope both the NSX and Skyline GT-R come out great, both Honda and Nissan were leaders in the Supercar and 60k sports car classes before the NSX was run into the ground due to lack of new technology and the GT-R was just killed
.The Ferrari 360 with the 3.6 V-8 was PERFECT! What do they do. Even with the Challenge Stradale being called possibly the greatest sports car. They build a new 4.3 liter V-8.
The NSX and NSX-R are WONDERUFL cars. But 290hp will NOT cut it in 2004 for an exotic.
NSX was not run into the ground by lack of new technology. It was because it sells like manure in the Sahara desert. It sells slow worldwide. Honda WOULD LOVE to build another but it never made $$$$$.
The GT-R is taking so long b/c when Nissan was in the red, losing billions, it fired its GT-R R35 replacement team back in 2000. There was no money to go into a limited production sports car. No replacement was there. The last GT-R was the very limited edition M-Spec. It was a less harsh GT-R, more driveable.
Since NIssan is in the black and making billions with shared platforms, it is coming. But as we can see it takes TONS of time. It was to be here now, it is pushed back to 2007/2008.
10-14-2004, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by gocubsgo55
guys easy, wait just a second here. the NSX was a v6 and easily destroyed the Lotus Esprit and Ferrari 355 (or whatever it was). The same technology from way back when can keep up with a v-10 Gallardo and v-12 Murcielago.......
10-14-2004, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ClutchPerformer
Um.... you're not serious, are you?
10-14-2004, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by gocubsgo55
what significant new features are in the 2004 NSX that were not there in 1997? I'm not trying to defend myself all out, but if I'm wrong I want to know if there was any big change after 1997 (save the engine and gearbox, that I understand). As for if you think I am serious about the NSX being able to keep up with the Lambos on a road course, I am VERY serious. An NSX-R can keep up if not BEAT a Lambo Gallardo on a closed track. Of course not off the line, but the beauty of a near perfectly-balanced lightweight RWD is that it will go super fast through a tight turn. There is a video that was posted here with a supercar showdown. The NSX finished 3rd to the 2 Lambos, and only lost because of an overheated engine on the final turn.
10-14-2004, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MSZ
0-60 for NSX-R is like 4.3/4.4s, clearly its engine is underrated.(I heard its more like 320hp for the R). But still, we want a NSX which can destory the Lambos not catching them.
10-15-2004, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by gocubsgo55
.....I am VERY serious. An NSX-R can keep up if not BEAT a Lambo Gallardo on a closed track. Of course not off the line, but the beauty of a near perfectly-balanced lightweight RWD is that it will go super fast through a tight turn. There is a video that was posted here with a supercar showdown. The NSX finished 3rd to the 2 Lambos, and only lost because of an overheated engine on the final turn.
Gallardo:
Weight dist: 44 front/56 rear
Murcielago:
Weight dist: 42 front/59 rear
NSX:
Weight dist: 42 front/58 rear
Don't believe everything you see in videos. There's another video of a civic with a non-turboed k20 swap beating an EVO 8 on 22lbs of boost. Do you believe that, too? The NSX-R in your vid was probably not stock. Why else would it overheat?
There's only a few stock cars that have officially broken the 8 minute mark at Nurburgring. The NSX-R isn't one of them. By comparison, the Ferrari 360CS (with the sport tire option) barely made it at 7:56.
10-15-2004, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ClutchPerformer
So you're saying that the Lambos aren't near perfectly balanced? And that AWD + 200-270 more HP don't win the race?
Gallardo:
Weight dist: 44 front/56 rear
Murcielago:
Weight dist: 42 front/59 rear
NSX:
Weight dist: 42 front/58 rear
Don't believe everything you see in videos. There's another video of a civic with a non-turboed k20 swap beating an EVO 8 on 22lbs of boost. Do you believe that, too? The NSX-R in your vid was probably not stock. Why else would it overheat?
There's only a few stock cars that have officially broken the 8 minute mark at Nurburgring. The NSX-R isn't one of them. By comparison, the Ferrari 360CS (with the sport tire option) barely made it at 7:56.
Gallardo:
Weight dist: 44 front/56 rear
Murcielago:
Weight dist: 42 front/59 rear
NSX:
Weight dist: 42 front/58 rear
Don't believe everything you see in videos. There's another video of a civic with a non-turboed k20 swap beating an EVO 8 on 22lbs of boost. Do you believe that, too? The NSX-R in your vid was probably not stock. Why else would it overheat?
There's only a few stock cars that have officially broken the 8 minute mark at Nurburgring. The NSX-R isn't one of them. By comparison, the Ferrari 360CS (with the sport tire option) barely made it at 7:56.
10-15-2004, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ClutchPerformer
There's only a few stock cars that have officially broken the 8 minute mark at Nurburgring.
10-16-2004, 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by domn
You might be interested to know that the clutchless 05 BMW M5 has joined those ranks.
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10-16-2004, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by domn
You might be interested to know that the clutchless 05 BMW M5 has joined those ranks.
292HP (NSX) won't...
10-16-2004, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by gocubsgo55
The video was a Best Motoring "Supercar Showdown". I'm going to try to find a link. Best Motoring isn't known for modding cars and comparing them with stock cars. Also, the track was Motegi Twin Ring. And as for the Murcielago, which side has 1 less % of the weight? (typo)
I was just using Nurburgring as an example because people have said that it tests just about everything about a car since it's so long and has so many different curves. It's sort of a benchmark. I still don't see how a stock NSX overheats, though...
10-16-2004, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ClutchPerformer
Sorry that was a typo. It should read 42/58 same as the NSX.
...I still don't see how a stock NSX overheats, though...
...I still don't see how a stock NSX overheats, though...
.oh by the way, how about this option for the new NSX, it's been brought up a lot... a midship SH-AWD platform capable of holding a slightly limited version of Honda's Indy V8, needing all the same requirements of the Indy engine (racing fuel, oil, etc...)
. Why not? Talk about "limited production"
11-03-2004, 01:19 PM
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2007 Toyota Supra
I know we have heard the rumors before but since this is from the Detroit News I thought it worth passing along:
Autosinsider.com Sneak Peak
2007 Toyota Supra
By Paul Lienert
Engineers from Toyota Motor Co.p. visited Germany's famed Nurburgring racetrack last month to test a prototype sports car shrouded in mystery.
Spy shots of the session have provoked widespread speculation on the identity of the vehicle and Toyota's production plans.
Among the outrageous guesses are that the prototype is a mule hiding either a 500-horsepower V-10 engine or a high-performance hybrid powertrain.
Sources in Japan say it?s likely an early test bed for the next Supra, pulled from the U.S. market several years ago because of poor sales.
Toyota insiders say the reincarnated Supra should reach the market in 2006 as a 2007 model. The rear-wheel drive coupe, being targeted at the Nissan 350Z, will be powered by a twin-cam 3.5-liter V-6 and priced from well under $30,000.
picture at:
http://www.detnews.com/2004/autoscon...f03-323632.htm
11-03-2004, 02:31 PM
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Although its aimed at the Z, I hope it winds up being more like the G35C. $.02
11-03-2004, 02:55 PM
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I figured it to be so...that spy pic just didn't carry the typical mid-engine exotic silhouette to match with the drawing that was displayed.
But at least this shows Toyota is serious about reaching younger audiences...
But at least this shows Toyota is serious about reaching younger audiences...
11-03-2004, 06:16 PM
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damn I knew I already saw this car here:
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...ighlight=supra
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from 10/06/04
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...ighlight=supra
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12-28-2004, 10:51 AM
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Quoting from Road and Track mag:
Source: Road and Track Mag.
According to insider information, the next Supra will be a convertible with a detachable hardtop powered by either a V-6 or a V-8.
12-28-2004, 12:18 PM
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Doesnt the IS have a 2jz motor in it. Some asian kid around my way has a 600 horsepower IS Turbo. He said it wanst the same as a Supra turbo motor, but was the same as the non supra turbo motor.
12-28-2004, 01:31 PM
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Doesnt the IS have a 2jz motor in it. Some asian kid around my way has a 600 horsepower IS Turbo. He said it wanst the same as a Supra turbo motor, but was the same as the non supra turbo motor.
lol....no, it takes a ton of work to turbo the is300 version of the motor.
12-28-2004, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bigman
Doesnt the IS have a 2jz motor in it. Some asian kid around my way has a 600 horsepower IS Turbo. He said it wanst the same as a Supra turbo motor, but was the same as the non supra turbo motor.
12-29-2004, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by bigman
Doesnt the IS have a 2jz motor in it. Some asian kid around my way has a 600 horsepower IS Turbo. He said it wanst the same as a Supra turbo motor, but was the same as the non supra turbo motor.