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Looking forward to it!
since its my daily there has to be a limit lol. I want more power but once it gets to upgrading injectors and fuel pumps etc im stopping. my fun car (NSX) is one thing but I don't want to go too crazy on the daily. with that being said I decided im going to go with the FL5 civic type r and integra type s turbo, they both use the same turbo. its estimated I should get around 350-370whp on pump gas with that turbo.
one other change I made recently is that I traded my TLX from a '21 to '22 TLX same spec except this one has SH-AWD. I haven't had a FWD car since 2012 and I realized I hate the driving dynamics of it after driving a RWD NSX and 4WD CR-V all this time. I wasn't planning on it but I was kind of regretting the FWD but randomly I got a call from my dealership asking if I wanted to trade my car. I took that as a sign and got a good deal so I jumped on it. I absolutely love this SH-AWD, it's really fun to drive. any daily I buy from now on has to be AWD.
my downpipe just came and I can't get this on fast enough to see how to car reacts to this mod. my tune so far has made this car so much more fun to drive already.
Type-S Brembos
Type-S Rear Diffuser
Type-S Exhaust
I.D.S. Controller
K&N Drop-In Air Filter
OEM Lip Kit
KTuner v1.2
RV6 Performance Downpipe
PRL Intercooler
OEM Integra Type S Turbo
just got my oem integra type s turbo. im about to get it installed with a basemap so I can still drive from a to b but ill be getting a real dyno tune later this month once I can get to my tuner. its also the same turbo that's used on the new type r civic that just came out.
lol thanks. I kind of went crazy and decided to knock everything out at once. Once my wheels get here next month it’ll be done. I mainly wanted to finish the TLX because my NSX is going to get a big change this year and I wanted to put all my focus on that once I start it and not worrying about trying to mod 2 cars at once.
lol thanks. I kind of went crazy and decided to knock everything out at once. Once my wheels get here next month it’ll be done. I mainly wanted to finish the TLX because my NSX is going to get a big change this year and I wanted to put all my focus on that once I start it and not worrying about trying to mod 2 cars at once.
ahhh yaaas. the nsx! You should post some photos of it here so we can all drool haha.
ahhh yaaas. the nsx! You should post some photos of it here so we can all drool haha.
my plans for it this year is to do toda cams, twin turbo and possibly custom billet intake manifold. if you know someone that wants to buy a supercharger for a NSX let me know lol. its for sale right now. these are the most recent pics of it from last October. I had just picked it up from getting a new paint job. here's my build thread of it:
Type-S Brembos
Type-S Rear Diffuser
Type-S Exhaust
I.D.S. Controller
K&N Drop-In Air Filter
OEM Lip Kit
KTuner v1.2
RV6 Performance Downpipe
PRL Intercooler
OEM Integra Type S Turbo
Eibach Springs
Project Kids Lug Nuts
SSR Professor SP5
this has been a good day for my car. my project kics lug nuts for my new wheels came in and I got my car tuned. its putting down 343whp, a little over 100whp gained over stock. then to finish off my day I just got word that my SSR professor SP5 wheels came in, they're at my wheel place getting the lips chromed. I don't like polished lips because of the maintenance they require. it's much easier to clean chrome. I just hate I won't have my wheels for another month. I at least got this pic which I know I'll be drooling over until I get them back.
Type-S Brembos
Type-S Rear Diffuser
Type-S Exhaust
I.D.S. Controller
K&N Drop-In Air Filter
OEM Lip Kit
KTuner v1.2
RV6 Performance Downpipe
PRL Intercooler
OEM Integra Type S Turbo
Eibach Springs
Project Kids Lug Nuts
SSR Professor SP5
this has been a good day for my car. my project kics lug nuts for my new wheels came in and I got my car tuned. its putting down 343whp, a little over 100whp gained over stock. then to finish off my day I just got word that my SSR professor SP5 wheels came in, they're at my wheel place getting the lips chromed. I don't like polished lips because of the maintenance they require. it's much easier to clean chrome. I just hate I won't have my wheels for another month. I at least got this pic which I know I'll be drooling over until I get them back.
Your wheel set up look immaculate. It will really stands out with the addition of the Type S brakes
Is there that much of a difference between the TLX turbo and the Integra Type S turbo?
Thanks. Yes, there’s a decent amount of a difference. The TLX turbo tops out at best at 300whp on 93 pump gas and that’s working the turbo to its limits and falls off pretty hard. while the integra type s turbo tops out at around what I got on 93 pump gas and keeps pulling further through the powerband where the TLX falls off. I technically didn’t really need to upgrade but this is my first turbo car so I’m kind of experimenting and wanted to see how much of a difference it would be. I had my TLX tuned with no bolt ons and it made a huge difference so I highly recommend anyone with a second gen TLX to get it tuned. It absolutely wakes the car up and that was with no bolt on and just a tune. Buy a ktuner and download one of the 3 stages and call it a day. Unless you want more power and do what I did.
It was well worth the upgrade. Idk if that’s your accord on your profile pic but I’ve seen accords run the same upgraded turbo also.
Yep. It WAS. Lol. I kinda wish I still had it. I was looking at swapping a Type R turbo on. I already had the stage 2 from Hondata. Exhaust. A 2nd set of wheels. I had plans. But my desire for an F80 M3 was too high. Sadly, I sold it and end up settling on a 2018 S4. Loved it. Made me an Audi fan. But now I have a 2024 Odyssey. All I can really do to that is intake, coilovers, and wheels. It'll be my daily until it's paid off. Not buying anymore cars unless I happen upon a CRAZY deal on an Audi RS5. Hahahaha!
Thanks. Yes, there’s a decent amount of a difference. The TLX turbo tops out at best at 300whp on 93 pump gas and that’s working the turbo to its limits and falls off pretty hard. while the integra type s turbo tops out at around what I got on 93 pump gas and keeps pulling further through the powerband where the TLX falls off. I technically didn’t really need to upgrade but this is my first turbo car so I’m kind of experimenting and wanted to see how much of a difference it would be. I had my TLX tuned with no bolt ons and it made a huge difference so I highly recommend anyone with a second gen TLX to get it tuned. It absolutely wakes the car up and that was with no bolt on and just a tune. Buy a ktuner and download one of the 3 stages and call it a day. Unless you want more power and do what I did.
Just curious, is there any way to provide individual superiority mechanical specifics on the ITS 18900-66V-A01 over the TLX turbo 18900-6B2-A02 that gives you the '...pulling further through the powerband where the TLX falls off' impression?
Or is the ITS turbo still to 'new' and there just is not any or enough data?
Maybe your tuner can explain the detail as to what is superior?
TIA
Yep. It WAS. Lol. I kinda wish I still had it. I was looking at swapping a Type R turbo on. I already had the stage 2 from Hondata. Exhaust. A 2nd set of wheels. I had plans. But my desire for an F80 M3 was too high. Sadly, I sold it and end up settling on a 2018 S4. Loved it. Made me an Audi fan. But now I have a 2024 Odyssey. All I can really do to that is intake, coilovers, and wheels. It'll be my daily until it's paid off. Not buying anymore cars unless I happen upon a CRAZY deal on an Audi RS5. Hahahaha!
hope you get to get back into the game soon lol.
Originally Posted by zeta
Just curious, is there any way to provide individual superiority mechanical specifics on the ITS 18900-66V-A01 over the TLX turbo 18900-6B2-A02 that gives you the '...pulling further through the powerband where the TLX falls off' impression?
Or is the ITS turbo still to 'new' and there just is not any or enough data?
Maybe your tuner can explain the detail as to what is superior?
TIA
here's a dyno graph of the stock tlx turbo with the stock tune, ktuner stage 2 tune and the phearable stage 3 tune which I had. the second graph is the integra type s turbo on my tlx dyno tune. what I meant by the tlx turbo falls off where the integra type s turbo pulls further through the power band is with both hp/tq. if you want mechanical specifics you'd have to google that or maybe I can get that info from my tuner if he's not busy. after having both turbos tuned, I much prefer the ITS turbo.
if you want mechanical specifics you'd have to google that...
Easier said then done, because I have not seen any type of specs., in regards to manufacturer or turbo size; thus, the inquiry to yourself as the trendsetter.
Originally Posted by p.diddy
or maybe I can get that info from my tuner if he's not busy.
When time permits, have him give you all that he knows, for instance its brand manufacturer, size, or cfm @ X psi, et al; as to why it is better than the factory TLX, if he knows, of course.
Any type of data would benefit this thread for those whom want to upgrade & 'cough up' an additional $1K for the ITS unit.
Easier said then done, because I have not seen any type of specs., in regards to manufacturer or turbo size; thus, the inquiry to yourself as the trendsetter.
When time permits, have him give you all that he knows, for instance its brand manufacturer, size, or cfm @ X psi, et al; as to why it is better than the factory TLX, if he knows, of course.
Any type of data would benefit this thread for those whom want to upgrade & 'cough up' an additional $1K for the ITS unit.
ill see if he can spare sometime and break it down for me to relay the info. after driving both tuned I can tell the difference between the two easily but I get wanting more specific info. there's 2 other drop in no mod needed turbos for the tlx (mhi stage 2 & prl p700) but after researching they're both not worth the upgrade imo. the its turbo hits the sweet spot.
ill see if he can spare sometime and break it down for me to relay the info. after driving both tuned I can tell the difference between the two easily but I get wanting more specific info. there's 2 other drop in no mod needed turbos for the tlx (mhi stage 2 & prl p700) but after researching they're both not worth the upgrade imo. the its turbo hits the sweet spot.
Thanks for your efforts.
Here is some general data derived from Acura open source press releases found by forum member 619rcr which similarly ties into what you feel while driving:
Snippet from acura 2024 Integra Type S press kit:
In the Type S, the high-revving VTEC® Turbo engine with direct injection features unique throttle tuning for quick throttle response. An electrical waste-gate is paired with a low-inertia high-flow mono scroll turbocharger.This configuration enables the turbocharger to generate pressure in a wider range of engine speeds and maximizes torque output in the mid-rpm range for greater response and drivability.
Snippet from 2021 tlx press kit: 2.0-liter Turbocharged Engine 2.0-liter DOHC direct-injected and turbocharged inline-4 engine 272 horsepower at 6,500 rpm (SAE net) 280 lb.-ft. torque at 1,600-4,500 rpm (SAE net) VTEC® valvetrain with Dual VTC Low-inertia mono-scroll turbo system with electric wastegate Computer-controlled Direct Injection (DI) with high-flow fuel injectors 9.8:1 compression ratio Super lightweight, high-rigidity steel crankshaft “4-into-1” exhaust manifold integrated into cylinder-head casting Sodium-filled valves Ref - https://acuranews.com/en-US/releases...-tlx-press-kit
The simple commonality that stands out is that a factory 'Low-inertia mono-scroll turbo system with electric wastegate' are used in both models; however, 619rcr brings up the important point that there may be a larger exhaust housing on the ITS turbo as well?
By chance, did you or your tuner / installer happen to notice a visual size difference in the either exhaust housings or the actual turbo's while in hand 'out of the box' in your #51 picture post above or before the install?
If so, then that paired with the slightly lower OEM price over the regular TLX turbo makes this upgrade even more appealing.
Here is some general data derived from Acura open source press releases found by forum member 619rcr which similarly ties into what you feel while driving:
Snippet from acura 2024 Integra Type S press kit:
In the Type S, the high-revving VTEC® Turbo engine with direct injection features unique throttle tuning for quick throttle response. An electrical waste-gate is paired with a low-inertia high-flow mono scroll turbocharger.This configuration enables the turbocharger to generate pressure in a wider range of engine speeds and maximizes torque output in the mid-rpm range for greater response and drivability.
Snippet from 2021 tlx press kit: 2.0-liter Turbocharged Engine 2.0-liter DOHC direct-injected and turbocharged inline-4 engine 272 horsepower at 6,500 rpm (SAE net) 280 lb.-ft. torque at 1,600-4,500 rpm (SAE net) VTEC® valvetrain with Dual VTC Low-inertia mono-scroll turbo system with electric wastegate Computer-controlled Direct Injection (DI) with high-flow fuel injectors 9.8:1 compression ratio Super lightweight, high-rigidity steel crankshaft “4-into-1” exhaust manifold integrated into cylinder-head casting Sodium-filled valves Ref - https://acuranews.com/en-US/releases...-tlx-press-kit
The simple commonality that stands out is that a factory 'Low-inertia mono-scroll turbo system with electric wastegate' are used in both models; however, 619rcr brings up the important point that there may be a larger exhaust housing on the ITS turbo as well?
By chance, did you or your tuner / installer happen to notice a visual size difference in the either exhaust housings or the actual turbo's while in hand 'out of the box' in your #51 picture post above or before the install?
If so, then that paired with the slightly lower OEM price over the regular TLX turbo makes this upgrade even more appealing.
I couldn’t tell you in mm’s but I remember the its turbo wheel being slightly bigger when I had them sitting next to each other. The turbo themselves are pretty much the same size which is why they drop in like factory.
I couldn’t tell you in mm’s but I remember the its turbo wheel being slightly bigger when I had them sitting next to each other. The turbo themselves are pretty much the same size which is why they drop in like factory.
He doesn’t have the specific info on the 2 but all he could say was “they are completely different units in terms of manufacturer, wheel diameters, wheel design, and housing volume, though. For actual specifics you’d have to try google.”
But the dyno results do kind speak for themselves on why the ITS turbo is the better turbo for performance than the non type s TLX.
Type-S Brembos
Type-S Rear Diffuser
Type-S Exhaust
Type-S Rear Calipers
I.D.S. Controller
K&N Drop-In Air Filter
OEM Lip Kit
KTuner v1.2
RV6 Performance Downpipe
PRL Intercooler
OEM Integra Type S Turbo
Eibach Springs
Project Kids Lug Nuts
SSR Professor SP5 20x10 +41 20x10 +37
the last part other than my wheels came in today for my build. rear type s calipers. there's no difference in the aspec calipers other than they're red. I could have painted mine but I wanted the factory paint finish. its already faster than a type s, now it fully looks like a type s lol.
since I get my wheels in 2-3 weeks I decided to finally throw my eibach springs on that ive had for a while. they're a lot lower than I figured it would be but I like it. my wheels will be 20s so it'll raise it slightly when I get them.
since I get my wheels in 2-3 weeks I decided to finally throw my eibach springs on that ive had for a while. they're a lot lower than I figured it would be but I like it. my wheels will be 20s so it'll raise it slightly when I get them.
Awesome looks like your shaping up to have uniquely fast A-Spec in the DMV too! Do you by chance go to any local meets or cars and coffee? would love to see this in-person when the wheels are on.
Awesome looks like your shaping up to have uniquely fast A-Spec in the DMV too! Do you by chance go to any local meets or cars and coffee? would love to see this in-person when the wheels are on.
I’ve been to one but I’m trying to get out to more. We’ll have to meet up at cars and coffee.
Originally Posted by Shadow2056
Whenever you're ready, you can bring the TLX or NSX(or both) down to South Carolina and I'll do a video/photo shoot for you!
12-06-2023, 05:58 PM
