Type-S missing features
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Type-S missing features
According to the TLX Specifications and Features the Type-S lacks some features found on the Advanced and/or A-Spec TLX.
Heated steering wheel
Heated rear seats
Fog lights
Heads up display.!!!!
The heated wheel is an accessory, but I'm really unhappy if there's no HUD. Even Accords have one.
I'd also miss the fog lights. I use them often on my TL Type-S.
Heated steering wheel
Heated rear seats
Fog lights
Heads up display.!!!!
The heated wheel is an accessory, but I'm really unhappy if there's no HUD. Even Accords have one.
I'd also miss the fog lights. I use them often on my TL Type-S.
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arek1200 (02-12-2023)
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It also lacks wireless Apple CarPlay, another feature on most Accords. I thought Acura was supposed to be the tech leader of the family, not Honda.
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Heads up display is the real bummer. I love HUD for daily drivers.
Heated steering wheel you can add on, no biggie.
Heated rear seats, i rarely have more than 1 passenger so another no biggie for me. Plus if I did...i would not be getting a TLX. the back seat room in the tlx is TERRIBLE for the cars size.
Fog Lights..you could always add them aftermarket. It wouldn't cost much to do.
I think for the 22 type-s they will add a HUD.
Heated steering wheel you can add on, no biggie.
Heated rear seats, i rarely have more than 1 passenger so another no biggie for me. Plus if I did...i would not be getting a TLX. the back seat room in the tlx is TERRIBLE for the cars size.
Fog Lights..you could always add them aftermarket. It wouldn't cost much to do.
I think for the 22 type-s they will add a HUD.
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According to the TLX Specifications and Features the Type-S lacks some features found on the Advanced and/or A-Spec TLX.
Heated steering wheel
Heated rear seats
Fog lights
Heads up display.!!!!
The heated wheel is an accessory, but I'm really unhappy if there's no HUD. Even Accords have one.
I'd also miss the fog lights. I use them often on my TL Type-S.
Heated steering wheel
Heated rear seats
Fog lights
Heads up display.!!!!
The heated wheel is an accessory, but I'm really unhappy if there's no HUD. Even Accords have one.
I'd also miss the fog lights. I use them often on my TL Type-S.
Wireless Apple CarPlay only became available on the Accord X for the 2021 model. All previous Accord Xs only have wired Carplay (except LX, which does not have Carplay in any form). Even so, you are right, Acura should be the tech leader.
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LinuxRacr (02-12-2023)
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Fog lights are missing due to the vents having actual functionality, they would've had to go in a completely different place from the other trims and so I can see why they aren't there. Bummer on the other items you listed yeah. If a HUD/360/Heated Rear Bench is important to you they just aren't there on the Type S, IMO they should've been. If the Type S proves popular enough they will probably show up in 2023+.
I'm having trouble finding the brand again but apparently there is a wireless carplay adapter actually worth a damn compared to the standard rebadged chinese specials out now that both works with the TLX touchpad and isn't a complete piece of crap maybe worth checking out to get wireless carplay.
I'm having trouble finding the brand again but apparently there is a wireless carplay adapter actually worth a damn compared to the standard rebadged chinese specials out now that both works with the TLX touchpad and isn't a complete piece of crap maybe worth checking out to get wireless carplay.
#7
According to the TLX Specifications and Features the Type-S lacks some features found on the Advanced and/or A-Spec TLX.
Heated steering wheel
Heated rear seats
Fog lights
Heads up display.!!!!
The heated wheel is an accessory, but I'm really unhappy if there's no HUD. Even Accords have one.
I'd also miss the fog lights. I use them often on my TL Type-S.
Heated steering wheel
Heated rear seats
Fog lights
Heads up display.!!!!
The heated wheel is an accessory, but I'm really unhappy if there's no HUD. Even Accords have one.
I'd also miss the fog lights. I use them often on my TL Type-S.
- Never had a car with a heated steering wheel. I'm sure it's nice in the dead of winter, but I've never driven a car where my hands were so cold it was uncomfortable gripping the steering wheel.
- Rear seats? We don't need no stinkin' heated rear seats! The only people you're fitting back there comfortably are pubescent teens and younger. Being cold back there builds character. When I was growing up, we were thankful getting some wafts of warm air in my dad's 2dr Delta 88.
- Fog lights ... meh. All fog lights do is make whatever you're about to hit more luminescent. Seriously tho, I've used them plenty of times in fog and I really don't think they make a massive difference. As another stated, they were removed because those vents were needed for cooling.
- HUD. Sure, not bad to have, but with the complaints of rattles coming from people that have them in the RDX, be thankful. Interior build quality of my 2020 RDX leaves a lot to be desired. So, I'd be thankful they didn't put it in there if that's a peeve of yours (also be thankful they didn't put a pano sunroof).
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Heads up display is the real bummer. I love HUD for daily drivers.
Heated steering wheel you can add on, no biggie.
Heated rear seats, i rarely have more than 1 passenger so another no biggie for me. Plus if I did...i would not be getting a TLX. the back seat room in the tlx is TERRIBLE for the cars size.
Fog Lights..you could always add them aftermarket. It wouldn't cost much to do.
I think for the 22 type-s they will add a HUD.
Heated steering wheel you can add on, no biggie.
Heated rear seats, i rarely have more than 1 passenger so another no biggie for me. Plus if I did...i would not be getting a TLX. the back seat room in the tlx is TERRIBLE for the cars size.
Fog Lights..you could always add them aftermarket. It wouldn't cost much to do.
I think for the 22 type-s they will add a HUD.
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#12
I own the A-Spec. There's nothing the A-Spec has that the Type S doesn't have except for the fog lights, which we've already established is not possible due to the active air ducts.
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I'm having trouble finding the brand again but apparently there is a wireless carplay adapter actually worth a damn compared to the standard rebadged chinese specials out now that both works with the TLX touchpad and isn't a complete piece of crap maybe worth checking out to get wireless carplay.
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It's bizarre that Type S is based on ASPEC and not Advance. TLX is (currently) their flagship sedan and Type S is the flagship trim. There is no excuse not to have it completely fully loaded. If a buyer goes to Acura and says I want a fully loaded sedan with the top tier engine, they're going to say what...we don't have it? It's ridiculous. Aside from the fact that $20K cheaper Accord Touring has all of it, including HUD. You tell upper middle class buyer that he has to make some sacrifice, either get a smaller engine or not have all features (has to chose one or the other) and he'll walk out and go across the street to Lexus. They cancelled out RLX, only to compromise on bunch of things on TLX...And they're still selling/making ILX that's based on 9th Gen Civic while Civic is already out on 11th Gen. I really don't understand where Acura's logic is.
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It's bizarre that Type S is based on ASPEC and not Advance. TLX is (currently) their flagship sedan and Type S is the flagship trim. There is no excuse not to have it completely fully loaded. If a buyer goes to Acura and says I want a fully loaded sedan with the top tier engine, they're going to say what...we don't have it? It's ridiculous. Aside from the fact that $20K cheaper Accord Touring has all of it, including HUD. You tell upper middle class buyer that he has to make some sacrifice, either get a smaller engine or not have all features (has to chose one or the other) and he'll walk out and go across the street to Lexus. They cancelled out RLX, only to compromise on bunch of things on TLX...And they're still selling/making ILX that's based on 9th Gen Civic while Civic is already out on 11th Gen. I really don't understand where Acura's logic is.
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I imagine they were concerned that adding more equipment would push the starting price too high above the S4 and maybe even above the M340i. But that begs the question: if it's a matter of marketing, why not "offer" a base version (one that probably nobody would buy) based on the base TLX that you can price in the mid-40s. It's not like the Germans don't do the same thing with how they advertise the price of their cars. Advertise a poverty-spec base model to keep the marketers happy, and offer a full-fat version for buyers who want everything.
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I imagine they were concerned that adding more equipment would push the starting price too high above the S4 and maybe even above the M340i. But that begs the question: if it's a matter of marketing, why not "offer" a base version (one that probably nobody would buy) based on the base TLX that you can price in the mid-40s. It's not like the Germans don't do the same thing with how they advertise the price of their cars. Advertise a poverty-spec base model to keep the marketers happy, and offer a full-fat version for buyers who want everything.
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Personally I won't be broken hearted about the lack of rear seat heat, but I've often wished for a heated wheel as I turned on the seat heating in my TL Type-S 6MT.
I was really looking forward to the HUD, and I don't like the absence of the 360 camera.
If it's the price, give the Type-S an Advance package option. It's not like I want something that isn't already available on lesser TLXs.
And to add insult to injury, I can't get the Type-S in Silver!
I was really looking forward to the HUD, and I don't like the absence of the 360 camera.
If it's the price, give the Type-S an Advance package option. It's not like I want something that isn't already available on lesser TLXs.
And to add insult to injury, I can't get the Type-S in Silver!
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No 360 camera is a deal breaker for me. (Canada get the 360 camera)
But now reading it doesn't have wireless android auto, that's a deal breaker too. Maybe that's a software update though. No trim of the RDX have wireless charging. My aunt told me her RDX Advance doesn't have it. My 19 TLX advance have wireless charging. I blame Honda for this. Before you know it, the Accord Touring will be 40k
But now reading it doesn't have wireless android auto, that's a deal breaker too. Maybe that's a software update though. No trim of the RDX have wireless charging. My aunt told me her RDX Advance doesn't have it. My 19 TLX advance have wireless charging. I blame Honda for this. Before you know it, the Accord Touring will be 40k
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Personally I won't be broken hearted about the lack of rear seat heat, but I've often wished for a heated wheel as I turned on the seat heating in my TL Type-S 6MT.
I was really looking forward to the HUD, and I don't like the absence of the 360 camera.
If it's the price, give the Type-S an Advance package option. It's not like I want something that isn't already available on lesser TLXs.
And to add insult to injury, I can't get the Type-S in Silver!
I was really looking forward to the HUD, and I don't like the absence of the 360 camera.
If it's the price, give the Type-S an Advance package option. It's not like I want something that isn't already available on lesser TLXs.
And to add insult to injury, I can't get the Type-S in Silver!
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Just a question re wireless Apple Car Play/Android Auto. With my phone plugged in, my music has a better sound than with Bluetooth. Would this be a similar issue with Wireless Apple/Android Carplay vs wired?
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I don't know if it would sound as good as wired but in theory it should sound better than bluetooth as data is being transferred via wifi instead of bluetooth, there should be less compression. I've never had it myself but I've heard mixed opinions on wireless carplay/android auto. Some love it say it works great, others I've heard complaints about having to use the cord anyways because the wireless is glitchy.
#23
Some Guy Who Loves Cars
I've read online that people are getting brand new Accord Tourings for as low as $32k before TTL. I got mine for $34k including Honda Care for 8 years. That's one of the reasons I bought new - certified 10G Accords out on the lot with 30k miles were literally the same price. Shows how insane this used car market is right now. I've heard from multiple people that dealers are paying so much for used cars, that if you negotiate well enough on a used or new car, you can drive it for a few months and get more than you paid for a trade value.
I agree with F23A4 and fiatlux above though. This whole thread is like "Why can't Acura build a premium car with all the bells and whistles? Why does my Accord Touring have stuff that Advance and Type S don't even offer?" And for less money! It's like Honda is actively trying to push people into Accords except for those who absolutely insist on having AWD. Boy, look out TLX if Honda ever releases an AWD Accord. I don't know what made Toyota break down and finally offer an AWD Camry... maybe to compete with Subaru die-hards? But you have to think Honda is at least monitoring the Euros and Asians all offering AWD in their sedans.
Yes wireless CarPlay connects over WiFi, not Bluetooth. I love it. My phone stays in my pocket for short drives and goes on the Qi charger for long drives. Takes about 20 seconds to connect. The interface with apps (like operating Google Maps and Apple Podcasts through the Honda touchscreen) is seamless. I've compared podcasts over CarPlay to SXM (free trial) and my USB drive. No notable difference in sound quality. I'm sort of an audiophile and while I miss the Kenwood head unit, 1200W amp and 12" subs I had in high school, this Accord bangs hard enough for me. The only negative is that my phone gets really warm.
Once every couple weeks or so, there is a weird glitch in the Honda unit, my iPhone, or the connection between the two, where music plays choppy and at like quarter speed. The only way I have figured out how to fix it is to reboot my phone while driving, which is both distracting and time consuming.
I agree with F23A4 and fiatlux above though. This whole thread is like "Why can't Acura build a premium car with all the bells and whistles? Why does my Accord Touring have stuff that Advance and Type S don't even offer?" And for less money! It's like Honda is actively trying to push people into Accords except for those who absolutely insist on having AWD. Boy, look out TLX if Honda ever releases an AWD Accord. I don't know what made Toyota break down and finally offer an AWD Camry... maybe to compete with Subaru die-hards? But you have to think Honda is at least monitoring the Euros and Asians all offering AWD in their sedans.
I don't know if it would sound as good as wired but in theory it should sound better than bluetooth as data is being transferred via wifi instead of bluetooth, there should be less compression. I've never had it myself but I've heard mixed opinions on wireless carplay/android auto. Some love it say it works great, others I've heard complaints about having to use the cord anyways because the wireless is glitchy.
Once every couple weeks or so, there is a weird glitch in the Honda unit, my iPhone, or the connection between the two, where music plays choppy and at like quarter speed. The only way I have figured out how to fix it is to reboot my phone while driving, which is both distracting and time consuming.
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Not sure why they removed so many things. I get hitting a price point, but this should be their flagship Sedan. I get the MDX it the true flagship, but if I am shopping a high end sedan Audi S4 gets my nod over the Type-S
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I've read online that people are getting brand new Accord Tourings for as low as $32k before TTL. I got mine for $34k including Honda Care for 8 years. That's one of the reasons I bought new - certified 10G Accords out on the lot with 30k miles were literally the same price. Shows how insane this used car market is right now. I've heard from multiple people that dealers are paying so much for used cars, that if you negotiate well enough on a used or new car, you can drive it for a few months and get more than you paid for a trade value.
I agree with F23A4 and fiatlux above though. This whole thread is like "Why can't Acura build a premium car with all the bells and whistles? Why does my Accord Touring have stuff that Advance and Type S don't even offer?" And for less money! It's like Honda is actively trying to push people into Accords except for those who absolutely insist on having AWD. Boy, look out TLX if Honda ever releases an AWD Accord. I don't know what made Toyota break down and finally offer an AWD Camry... maybe to compete with Subaru die-hards? But you have to think Honda is at least monitoring the Euros and Asians all offering AWD in their sedans.
Yes wireless CarPlay connects over WiFi, not Bluetooth. I love it. My phone stays in my pocket for short drives and goes on the Qi charger for long drives. Takes about 20 seconds to connect. The interface with apps (like operating Google Maps and Apple Podcasts through the Honda touchscreen) is seamless. I've compared podcasts over CarPlay to SXM (free trial) and my USB drive. No notable difference in sound quality. I'm sort of an audiophile and while I miss the Kenwood head unit, 1200W amp and 12" subs I had in high school, this Accord bangs hard enough for me. The only negative is that my phone gets really warm.
Once every couple weeks or so, there is a weird glitch in the Honda unit, my iPhone, or the connection between the two, where music plays choppy and at like quarter speed. The only way I have figured out how to fix it is to reboot my phone while driving, which is both distracting and time consuming.
I agree with F23A4 and fiatlux above though. This whole thread is like "Why can't Acura build a premium car with all the bells and whistles? Why does my Accord Touring have stuff that Advance and Type S don't even offer?" And for less money! It's like Honda is actively trying to push people into Accords except for those who absolutely insist on having AWD. Boy, look out TLX if Honda ever releases an AWD Accord. I don't know what made Toyota break down and finally offer an AWD Camry... maybe to compete with Subaru die-hards? But you have to think Honda is at least monitoring the Euros and Asians all offering AWD in their sedans.
Yes wireless CarPlay connects over WiFi, not Bluetooth. I love it. My phone stays in my pocket for short drives and goes on the Qi charger for long drives. Takes about 20 seconds to connect. The interface with apps (like operating Google Maps and Apple Podcasts through the Honda touchscreen) is seamless. I've compared podcasts over CarPlay to SXM (free trial) and my USB drive. No notable difference in sound quality. I'm sort of an audiophile and while I miss the Kenwood head unit, 1200W amp and 12" subs I had in high school, this Accord bangs hard enough for me. The only negative is that my phone gets really warm.
Once every couple weeks or so, there is a weird glitch in the Honda unit, my iPhone, or the connection between the two, where music plays choppy and at like quarter speed. The only way I have figured out how to fix it is to reboot my phone while driving, which is both distracting and time consuming.
#26
I've read online that people are getting brand new Accord Tourings for as low as $32k before TTL. I got mine for $34k including Honda Care for 8 years. That's one of the reasons I bought new - certified 10G Accords out on the lot with 30k miles were literally the same price. Shows how insane this used car market is right now. I've heard from multiple people that dealers are paying so much for used cars, that if you negotiate well enough on a used or new car, you can drive it for a few months and get more than you paid for a trade value.
#27
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The used car market is absolutely nuts right now. I have a buyer lined up for my 2013 Accord coupe for $18,000. It has the V6 and only 42,000 miles but to me it doesn't seem like it should be worth that.. I only paid $22,000 and some change for it like 7 years ago right after it was returned from lease. Insane. Even trade offers have been generous around 12-14.5k. Very unique times and if anyone was thinking about buying something brand new this is absolutely the time to do it if you're going to.
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The used car market is absolutely nuts right now. I have a buyer lined up for my 2013 Accord coupe for $18,000. It has the V6 and only 42,000 miles but to me it doesn't seem like it should be worth that.. I only paid $22,000 and some change for it like 7 years ago right after it was returned from lease. Insane. Even trade offers have been generous around 12-14.5k. Very unique times and if anyone was thinking about buying something brand new this is absolutely the time to do it if you're going to.
Picking up the plates on my 21 A-Spec, wife wants to trade our 20 MDX Tech for a 22 version so long as the payment bump isn't too outlandish.
#29
Agreed. Check out the asking price on my old 19 TLX 3.5: LINK That's pretty much what I paid for it new, back when the auto market didnt lose its mind.
Picking up the plates on my 21 A-Spec, wife wants to trade our 20 MDX Tech for a 22 version so long as the payment bump isn't too outlandish.
Picking up the plates on my 21 A-Spec, wife wants to trade our 20 MDX Tech for a 22 version so long as the payment bump isn't too outlandish.
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#31
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I looked at the Canadian site and their S-Type has both the heated steering wheel and the 360 camera!
And the price is much lower based on current exchange rates.
And the price is much lower based on current exchange rates.
#33
Didn't say it would be free but it's there if it's important to you. Out of all the things I generally dislike about dealers the techs themselves (knock on wood) have generally not been an area of concern personally, I'm sure they can handle a steering wheel swap and have likely done it a good number of times before on the Aspec where it's also an optional accessory.
#34
Three Wheelin'
I find it interesting that they are not offering a package with most of those items. I’m the first to say that the $53k price is a fair and reasonable price for the car. It does undercut the Germans. It leaves the G70 and Stinger GT2 as the most direct competitors. My G70 has all of the features mentioned above except fog lights. I can’t speak for wireless CarPlay because I don’t use CarPlay.
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djhtsx (06-26-2021)
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I think it's bizarre people are jealous of the Civics basic digital instrumentation just because it's digital. Since when are analog tach/spedo this huge curse on a car? I see it in comments of every car review that has an analog setup even when the MID screen in between or supplementing the analog is like 7-9 inches already with all the information you can possibly want. It's like the kids that were handed iPads when they were 5 have all grown up now and demand that every single thing in their life be a screen or its somehow inferior.
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I think it's bizarre people are jealous of the Civics basic digital instrumentation just because it's digital. Since when are analog tach/spedo this huge curse on a car? I see it in comments of every car review that has an analog setup even when the MID screen in between or supplementing the analog is like 7-9 inches already with all the information you can possibly want. It's like the kids that were handed iPads when they were 5 have all grown up now and demand that every single thing in their life be a screen or its somehow inferior.
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I have a 21 Tlx Aspec and feel like the type S DOES not need all those extra functions. MSRP for Aspec is around 47.5? An extra 6k or so will get you: better wheels, type S cosmetics (not much), bigger brakes (yeah we need that for all tlx), and of course that engine. An Aspec and upgraded brembo brakes can easily get you into the 50k price…
All I’m saying is that Acura needs to pick and choose what is more important to keep the type s price competitive.
Coming from an S5 to RS5 owner, I always thought the rs5 was a little wee bit overpriced. They look the same, have the same interior, etc etc. The motor, body, and brakes were the main difference.
All I’m saying is that Acura needs to pick and choose what is more important to keep the type s price competitive.
Coming from an S5 to RS5 owner, I always thought the rs5 was a little wee bit overpriced. They look the same, have the same interior, etc etc. The motor, body, and brakes were the main difference.
#39
It's because all three came out in the same year, and one is an entry model whereas the other is the brand's premium sedan. In a world full of tech and customization, digital gauges are becoming standard equipment in luxury cars. Honda is just doing it backwards. Type-S would have been awesome with a nice HUD and a digital screen that shows different colors when manually switching gears. Even Audi only offers shift point indicators on their RS models, would have been a nice "precision" feature.
#40
Audi is the only digital instrumentation I've used personally and been impressed with, I'm sure BMW and Mercedes have some pretty sweet digital clusters too but never driven either of them. I'm all about more functionality but people bringing up the Civic is what raises my eye brow, it's digital but it's bare bones with nothing especially impressive about it. Honestly kind of like nice analogs over basic designed digital ones but I can accept I'm a dying breed.
bought the TLX not because it’s the best, but because it offers the best bang for the buck.
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