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Old 07-11-2024 | 08:09 AM
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Hi wanted to confirm oil filter and ask what oil you guys use. 23 tlx type s here my first oil change was done at the dealer, they give me 2 a year, I drive hard and a lot so will be doing another one soon wanted to ask what oil you guys use/recommend as well as confirm if this is the right filter. Not very straightforward info when looking it up unless I’m just being dumb.

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Old 07-11-2024 | 08:47 AM
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That's "the" Honda/Acura oil filter that every model has used for years (exceptions being the S2000 and NSX).

The A02 replaced the A01. Many Honda gearheads thought the A01 was better, so those go for a premium if you can still find them. I'm sure the A02 is fine as well as long you're changing them at least every other oil change.

I buy 6 at a time. Make sure to get the crush washer for the drain bolt. They're cheap and usually available from the parts sites when you order the filters.
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Old 07-11-2024 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by TLXinTX
That's "the" Honda/Acura oil filter that every model has used for years (exceptions being the S2000 and NSX).

The A02 replaced the A01. Many Honda gearheads thought the A01 was better, so those go for a premium if you can still find them. I'm sure the A02 is fine as well as long you're changing them at least every other oil change.

I buy 6 at a time. Make sure to get the crush washer for the drain bolt. They're cheap and usually available from the parts sites when you order the filters.

awesome thank you so much I see a bundle on Amazon with the washers for 3 of them will probably go with that.
Old 07-11-2024 | 01:27 PM
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Mobile One fully synthetic is the oil anyone should use on any engine.
Old 07-11-2024 | 03:24 PM
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I'm weary of OE parts on amazon.com.. seen too many counterfeit items for my comfort level.. I just go to my local honda dealer and buy them by the dozen.
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Old 07-12-2024 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by thoiboi
I'm weary of OE parts on amazon.com.. seen too many counterfeit items for my comfort level.. I just go to my local honda dealer and buy them by the dozen.
That was my first thought as well.
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I am running FRAM endurance oil filter for maximum protection
Old 07-16-2024 | 06:42 PM
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That was my first thought as well.
I purchases the oil filters on Amazon, but confirmed the seller was a Honda dealer.

No worries when you confirm.
Old 07-16-2024 | 06:48 PM
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I purchases the oil filters on Amazon, but confirmed the seller was a Honda dealer.

No worries when you confirm.

what if i told you that Amazon comingles all inventory in their warehouses from different sellers such that counterfeit items would fall into that same bucket of items being “sold by a honda dealer”
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Old 07-17-2024 | 06:59 AM
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If you want OEM, you need to buy it from online Acura dealer, such as Curry Acura
Old 07-20-2024 | 07:35 PM
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what if i told you that Amazon comingles all inventory in their warehouses from different sellers such that counterfeit items would fall into that same bucket of items being “sold by a honda dealer”
I know how Amazon works.

The filters were shipped form a Honda dealer. Not from an Amazon warehouse.
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I agree with @thoiboi on commingling possibility

Originally Posted by thoiboi
what if i told you that Amazon comingles all inventory in their warehouses from different sellers such that counterfeit items would fall into that same bucket of items being “sold by a honda dealer”
Here is an example of Commingling. Let's say I give Amazon 100 counterfeit Honda oil filters. Amazon also buys direct from Honda of America 100 copies of the genuine filter for sale under the conditions “filled and shipped by Amazon”. All the filters, both counterfeit and genuine, at any given Amazon warehouse are placed in the same stock bin and the computer simply handles who made the purchase and a robot (most likely) draws the filter from the bin at time of purchase. But in this example, you have 50/50 chance of getting a counterfeit filter.

Amazon regards the products as fungible (it's an actual legal term), meaning that a filter made by brand xyz and labeled as Honda, is the same regardless of who is selling it. Further, if a warehouse in Brooklyn runs out of stock of the filter, the order may be filled from a warehouse in Harrisburg PA, again regardless of who has supplied the filters in any given bin.

So the buyer needs to use caution in purchasing these small commodity items; you may not know what you get, until you get it!

Honda of America at the Corporate level purchases thousands, perhaps millions of filters every year, and they purchase them direct from their source in Japan. They are then disseminated downward to the individual dealers, Honda parts suppliers, etc. based on the Honda inventory system. There isn't any unknown middle person, the filter is supplied from Honda (Japan) to Honda of America to the local Honda dealership. The odds are much higher in this scenario to get the genuine Honda filter.

This was well documented back in 2014 by many sources, one at The pros and cons of commingling for Amazon merchants. Whether it holds true today, and specifically with respect to Honda filters, remains an unknown. But buying the filter from a dealership or from the online dealer related vendors seems to be a better path.


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Old 07-22-2024 | 01:12 PM
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H...at any given Amazon warehouse are placed in the same stock bin and the computer simply handles who made the purchase and a robot (most likely) draws the filter from the bin at time of purchase. But in this example, you have 50/50 chance of getting a counterfeit filter..
Confirmed that Amazon warehouses are picked by robots. Seen them in person


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Is the filter the same for 2.0T?
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Is the filter the same for 2.0T?
Probably, but go to https://www.hondapartswholesaledirec...er-15400plma02 and verify.
Old 09-29-2024 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by John from PA
It only shows compatibility with Hondas.
Old 09-29-2024 | 10:47 AM
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Yes all current Hondas and Acuras use the same oil filter.
Old 09-29-2024 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by chaospy
It only shows compatibility with Hondas.
Seriously dude, if you don;t know how to determine what filter your car needs, you probably shouldn't replace it but have a mechanic do it.
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Old 09-30-2024 | 07:30 AM
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[QUOTE=slowlyspeeding13;16944070]Hi wanted to confirm oil filter and ask what oil you guys use. 23 tlx type s here my first oil change was done at the dealer, they give me 2 a year, I drive hard and a lot so will be doing another one soon wanted to ask what oil you guys use/recommend as well as confirm if this is the right filter. Not very straightforward info when looking it up unless I’m just being dumb.

oil filter:
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I only use Honda filters and Royal Purple Oil......
Old 09-30-2024 | 09:21 AM
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[QUOTE=TypeSbuilder;16955256]
Originally Posted by slowlyspeeding13
Hi wanted to confirm oil filter and ask what oil you guys use. 23 tlx type s here my first oil change was done at the dealer, they give me 2 a year, I drive hard and a lot so will be doing another one soon wanted to ask what oil you guys use/recommend as well as confirm if this is the right filter. Not very straightforward info when looking it up unless I’m just being dumb.

oil filter:
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I only use Honda filters and Royal Purple Oil......
I use full synthetic and filters from WalMart for my 07Type-S w/240k miles and my 22Type-S. I do my own changes btw so I save $40 a change.

Old 09-30-2024 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TypeSbuilder

I use full synthetic and filters from WalMart for my 07Type-S w/240k miles and my 22Type-S. I do my own changes btw so I save $40 a change.
Same! I’ve used supertech synthetic for 7-8 yrs now on 6-7 cars I chg the oil for (my cars plus my daughters cars) and never had an issue.

Here’s a picture of my daughters 14 Accord 2.4L when I had to chg her valve cover gasket due to a faulty pcv at 112k miles. Used ST synthetic most of its life.



14 Accord 2.4L
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Originally Posted by GhostTL09

Same! I’ve used supertech synthetic for 7-8 yrs now on 6-7 cars I chg the oil for (my cars plus my daughters cars) and never had an issue.

Here’s a picture of my daughters 14 Accord 2.4L when I had to chg her valve cover gasket due to a faulty pcv at 112k miles. Used ST synthetic most of its life.



14 Accord 2.4L

Nice! That looks clean.

My brother put me on to it about 5 years ago. No issues at all.
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Anyone running 5w-30, or ya all too scared due to the manual? Lol
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Anyone running 5w-30, or ya all too scared due to the manual? Lol
“sing 5W-30 instead can reduce fuel economy and impede flow throughout the engine.“
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Originally Posted by TypeSbuilder
“sing 5W-30 instead can reduce fuel economy and impede flow throughout the engine.“
Fuel economy little bit, but impede flow throw engine, are you just making stuff up? Or maybe you want to take a look at Mexican version of Acura TLX owner manual section for oil…
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Fuel economy little bit, but impede flow throw engine, are you just making stuff up? Or maybe you want to take a look at Mexican version of Acura TLX owner manual section for oil…
just a quick Google search…
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Originally Posted by TypeSbuilder
just a quick Google search…
Its a bit more complicated than a quick google search…
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Its a bit more complicated than a quick google search…
exactly. Which is why I use what the manufacturer recommends. But still, Google is pretty cool. Gives you a lot of facts.
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exactly. Which is why I use what the manufacturer recommends. But still, Google is pretty cool. Gives you a lot of facts.
and why the same manufacturer allows 5w-30 in Mexico for exact same car?
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Originally Posted by russianDude
and why the same manufacturer allows 5w-30 in Mexico for exact same car?
don’t argue with him, dude is delusional
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Its due to fuel economy numbers.
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Its due to fuel economy numbers.
thats right, its the only reason you see 0w-20 as the only choice in north america, thanks to CAFE. Not saying its bad, but other regions allow more choices and viscosity is merely a recommendation and not the requirement
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Originally Posted by TypeSbuilder
exactly. Which is why I use what the manufacturer recommends. But still, Google is pretty cool. Gives you a lot of facts.
You have to understand what drives the decision behind what the manufacturer recommends. One such factor is the Corporate Average Fuel Economy or CAFE. The ruling from about June 2024 stated "The final rule establishes standards that would require an industry-wide fleet average of approximately 50.4 miles per gallon (mpg) in MY 2031 for passenger cars and light trucks, and an industry fleet-wide average for HDPUVs of roughly 2.851 gallons per 100 miles in MY 2035."

Now how do you think that Acura can get 50.4 mpg by 2031? Certainly engine design can be a key factor, but truth be told the engines are pretty sophisticated and anything moving forward would likely impact cost tremendously. Having said that the governing body that sets the CAFE doesn't care much about your wallet. Other factors include oil viscosity. The impact may be quite small but a multitude of small increases can add up. Those numbers of economy that are on your windows sticker are derived on a test stand. However the vehicle is configured on the test stand, has to essentially be in accordance with the recommendations. So you can't test with 0W-20 and put in the manual the preferred oil is 5W-30. The 5W-30 can be indicated as an alternative but the preferred or required product has to essentially be the way the vehicle is tested. Some factors may seem relatively insignificant. I suspect by your choice of word "cool" that you are relatively young. It is too bad you didn't grow up in the era of the Mobil Economy Run (see Mobil Economy Run This was an "event that ran from 1936 to 1968, long before our gov't tested vehicles for economy. FYI, the window sticker indicating mileage didn't appear until the mid-1970's. The idea behind the Mobil Economy Run was to establish the economy of a vehicle
under typical driving conditions encountered by average motorists. As a teenager and young adult I loved to follow the event. My father watched with high interest because he drove about 50,000 miles a year. But drivers used a lot of tricks we don't think of; the radio was always off, no headlights unless absolutely needed, no wipers unless absolutely needed, no heater unless absolutely needed, higher than normal tire air pressures, weight reductions, etc. The cars were equipped with manifold vacuum gages because it had been determined that when going up hill, constant vacuum was better than constant speed. So you might hit a hill at the bottom at 30 mph, and hit the crest at 20 mph and of course coast downhill. . . .

So why does Mexico suggest a more viscous oil which can decrease mpg? Because as of 2019 their equivalent to our CAFE was
7.6 Liters/100 km. Now we are going metric, just doing it inch by inch by if my math is correct that is just short of 31 mpg. So as you can see an oil that might result in higher gas consumption but be better for the engine is of less concern.
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