Couple of points. First, based on my experience with the 2.0T in my Accord, you won't miss a V6, at all, other than the usual sweet J35 soundtrack it puts out. The turbos kick in at 1500 rpm, so there's a lot of low-end torque, available right where you need it during acceleration. You will chirp your front tires, guaranteed. Second, SH-AWD is, yes, heavier, but it will put more power to the ground by using all four tires. It also makes the car handle more neutrally in the turns. I really miss that in my FWD Accord, though thankfully Honda is THE king of FWD sporty driving dynamics. You'll probably do OK with FWD, but SH-AWD is a performance adder for certain.

 

I usually swap over every 2-3 years to a new Acura. I was waiting for the latest and greatest TLX but decided to try something different for a couple years. Although I still have my 2018 TLX Elite, I bought a 2020 RDX Platinum Elite.
So far I'm loving it - having a glass roof is awesome. All the tech that comes with it is great. It took about 2 days of driving to get used to the new touch pad but it all makes sense now. The voice control is awesome.
I'm still a 'car' guy and will continue to read this forum and wait for the new 2021 to come out. In the meantime I guess I'm hopping over to the RDX group.

Cheers!

 

in the good ole days you could get a tl fully loaded with everything, including the v6, this new trim level sucks and its not competitive at all.

 

As a service loaner, I got to drive a RDX. Let's just say I was underwhelmed and disappointed in the 2.0/10-speed combination. Laggy starts, turbo surge, and overall less than smooth power delivery compared to my V6 A-Spec. Do you think this combination works better in sedans vs. CUV?

 

Perhaps we should all wait and see what the various trim levels look like. I understand that in Canada, we will not have the option of a non SH-awd 2.0.

 

The Accord guys with the 2.0T and 10 speed dont report any of the same things the RDX guys do. But I know there is different programming for a SUV vs a car. I think the TLX will behave like the Accord so if you want to know go check out the Accord forums. There is something called torque on demand. And it dumbs down the throttle. I think all FWD SUV with this engine use it because a big tall SUV with all the torque these engines can make down low will spin the tires easily when turning left or right when going kinda of slow. My wifes Santa FE 2.0T does it but there is no sign of it in the Optima car with the same engine. And even though the RDX has a SHAWD which would not spin the tires I dont think Acura would have two different programs just for cost savings they would have the one. K-Tuner on the cars gets rid of almost all of it.

 

I'm thinking of going to the base 2.0 turbo Silver exterior, black interior leather with AWD for sure. Don't want 20" wheels and think the new turbo engine will be enough for me, especially with a tune. I think the new look will look clean and sporty enough without me having to get the A spec.

 

I think the A-Spec will be their most popular model. Although I like full leather rather than those inserts. It’s easier to clean.

 

I have full inserts in my TLX and they are such a positive. No major spills as I am very careful in my cars, but the alcantara has been easy to clean and looks brand new after 2 years. Throw in the fact that it doesn't get too hot or cold and is therefore easier to heat and ventilate, and they are a very good thing. The Inserts on the RDX and new TLX are narrower and therefore gives you more leather, but the benefits are similar.

 

100% agree. I had upholstered seats in a Passat that were texturally similar to the alcantara inserts in my TLX. After 15yrs of owning the Passat, with minimal upkeep other than vacuuming, the seats looked as good as the first day I bought it.

 

I’d prefer the entire seat bottom be Alcantara as I agree with it’s benefits. Won’t crack or look as worn after years and they’d have better grip also when sitting.

 

With the new accessories information out, it seems like we can modify even TLX advance with some cool goodies.

 

At least you won't "full send" your passengers into the window on hard corners.

 

I agree. Especially with this new Precision Purchase platform they're pushing for online sales. I don't see them adding a markup into their purchasing portal. It seems like they cut out the dealer from determining pricing this way. Granted it works the other way too, you'd never get anything off MSRP either.

 

Don't be so confident. Acura dealers know they finally have something that should be in demand if specss and performance meet or exceed expectations. They WILL markup the Type S and will test the market. Honda barely discounts Type R years after its release. If they start collecting dust they will quickly offer discounts. I wonder how much potential damage might be incurred. They have to be careful with their strategy. Maybe Corporate will be very strict with pricing. They should at the very latest reward their loyal customers. Let's see what happens.

 

Markups are for suckers. Who cares if they mark it up? Dealers tried that with me with the 2001 and 2003 CL Type S and I just told them I'm not paying that. I had history with them and they took it off. ANYONE buying this at markup is an idiot. Now getting them below MSRP, that will be impossible at first. . .

 

If there are more idiots than there are cars, then they'll just tell you to go pound sand because they'll still end up selling it. I'm in an area with a disproportionate amount of Asian dudes, so cars like the CTR are still commanding markups that dealerships won't budge on. The 2019s are finally selling for sticker, but that's because the 2020s are much improved, and those are now seeing $5K+ markups. Yes, you read that right, the outgoing model year car that's objectively worse is "only" selling for sticker. Don't believe me, check Truecar; in my area the average transaction price on the 2020s are $4K over sticker.

I fully expect the Type-S to be in a similar situation if it's as good as it's been hyped to be. Dealerships have been hungry for something they can finally point to as a halo car, and I do believe they will treat the car as if it's a much more exclusive/prestigious/fancy car than it has any right to be.

 

I so badly want to make a racist joke here.

Ok. Crazy to see a 3yo design CTR still selling for sticker after collecting cob webs for a year.

It's almost like the dealers would rather the cars sit and loose money.

 

CTR has MT hot hatch going for it which is fairly unique, and I think a lot of people got super hyped thinking it's only going to be like a 1 year run and become a collectible. The Golf R is probably? the only equivalent now that the Focus RS is discontinued.

I think there's way too many other cars in the 60k price range for it to really happen with the Type S, but who knows. If they want over MSRP I'll probably go get a 1 year old C63 which will be faster anyways and cheaper.

 

Just received my first TLX email. Surprised it took so long.

 

Apparently, dealers are receiving their cars last week of September

 

Hmm.... this seems ok.

 

Acura is mighty quiet for a flagship sedan that should be releasing in September

 

I agree. For a car that is supposed to be released soon, we still do not have a starting price or at least the options made available on their website

 

This popped up on my youtube feed. Love the look even more.

 

Welcome to 2 weeks ago

https://acurazine.com/forums/second-.../#post16601087

 

I put a deposit-down on this one:

2021 TLX
- 2.0T, Tech-Package, SH-AWD, Platinum White, Ebony Interior

I need a new car (my 2004 Accord-V6 is getting old) and I saved-up the down-payment. I just want something a little better than a 2020/2021 Honda Accord Touring . The 2020-TLX I test-drove at the dealer was already nice-enough to buy (and the 2021 will be even better). Tech-Package includes 19-inch wheels and NAV (among other things).
Since it’s a whole-new-model this year, it seems like a good time to buy-in. Our 2014-MDX (also all-new in 2013) was also one of the first off the assembly-line and it turned-out to be a great vehicle.

My dealer ordered 7, and I’m reserving this one (since it’s already being built the way I would order it).
It should be like the red-one in the official Acura video.
Unless I get sick or deal goes major-sideways .., I’m getting this 2021-TLX .

 

Out of curiosity how much are you putting down as a down payment? I’m not that sold yet on the car to put a deposit down. But I respect you for taking that plunge.

 

I usually put-down (including trade) around $10k-$15k on my Acuras, so that my monthly-payments are around $500.

Also, at 0%-1% car-loan interest-rate ... notice how cheap it is to borrow that much money.

Yeah, I actually email the Internet-Salesman something like this is the beginning ... "I am not one of these people that just click-click-click and want to buy cars on the Internet without actually driving them" ... referring to Carvana and the like. Funny how things change, huh.

 

Wow! Congrats in advance. When is it expected to arrive?

 

Thanks. They are just saying "October" .

 

Some more info (since I can't edit old posts).

Yes, I already even put-down a small deposit to hold it. AFAIK, I should be driving it in a month or so.
Sure a bit risky but that video was really well done. And when has a new (refreshed) Acura sedan been worse than the one it replaces?
I don't even know the final price, but I've bought many new vehicles from this dealer (Hondas and Acuras, even a Nissan). They say it should be within $2k-$3k of current TLX model. They assure me it will be a "fair market price". So, I'm fine with all that.

Also, I get a 48-hour "No Questions Asked" return option (with all money refunded).

The 2020-TLX I test-drove (just the cheapest FWD model) was back in early 2020. This 2021-TXL purchase was setup with a new salesman "in their Internet department" ... all via email and phone (covid-19 style).
So, click-click-click ... buy a car.

 

The 2G isn't a refresh, it's a brand new model. New platform, new engine, new transmission, almost completely brand new from the ground up.

And to your point, some would argue that the 4G TL was better than the 1G TLX in terms of driving dynamics (personally, I can't say I would disagree).

 

I suppose some of my terminology is "off" (no surprise there). Also, maybe I don't know all the Generations of Acuras or cars that came before it. However, I think I do know what I am buying.
Let me try again ...

I think the new 2021-TLX-2.0T will be as good-as or better than the 2020-TLX-FWD.
How's that ?

 

The bar's pretty low with the 1G TLX, so you're probably right than the 2G TLX will be a better car, assuming everything works the way it's supposed to. Reliability and build quality is the big thing that worries me with the recent Acura products.

 

Sometimes the best plan is just to put the shovel down. These things can go circular quicker than my COBRA can do a doughnut.

 

I don't know, buying the car unseen and at full MSRP (their "fair" price), seems like a gamble to me. I wish all you the best, hopefully it'll be yours this early fall.

 

Your right.

What do I care if some random people on the Internet understand what I'm trying to say.

 

You could read it also the other way and "fair market price" is there way of telling you to expect a Dealer Mark Up. Showing the eagerness to put a deposit down without driving makes you open to them trying to screw you on price. Good luck.

 

Now, where did I put my shovel ... oh, here it is.

Yes, I said it was risky. Yes, hot new cars (in short supply) often sell for near MSRP on initial release.

To me, Fair is close to TrueCar or Precision Purchase pricing. It's nice to have a car dealer that you don't mind doing business with. I don't mind if a car dealer makes a small profit from selling me a car. I'm not sure how consumers expect the dealers to stay in business without making money. Cars or whatever ... I buy what I like. "Saving money" or getting something on sale is not very high on my list of qualifications. Life is short so get on with it.

And the initial sale is just the start of the "marriage". At least 3 times now, the dealer and/or Honda has stepped-up with Goodwill-Repairs (saving us thousands of dollars). Like I said, we don't get everything free/cheap, but I do feel we have always been treated fairly.