robnalex

NBP04TL4ME

Interesting but no real surprises, right?

Dymondawg

Right.

bilirubin

What's the design language for those Accord mods? "Alibaba parts bin"?

BEAR-AvHistory

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Another one to the very dark side?

Kense

This is what should have happened but why does that Accord have a Toyota TRD wing? Embarrassing.

NBP04TL4ME

You would have to ask Anoosh - the owner of the Accord

djhtsx

iTrader: (2)

There were a lot of people that really thought the Accord was faster 😂. The Accord is really fast for it’s class but not that fast.

StealthTL-S

This shows just how fast that Type S is. it's pretty fast to beat the very quick Accord Sport like that. I really like my 21 TLX SH-AWD tech. I might trade my TLX for the type S next year if I can do it.....Why did you get rid of your TLX?

fiatlux

Was there really "a lot of people" who thought it was faster? All the magazines had the Accord half a second slower in the quarter mile.

caLiTLX

Did anyone see there’s upcoming videos with the same TLX-S but against other vehicles? I believe one of them being the Infiniti Q50S; curious to see the outcome.

KrylonBlue

The thought process was that the Accord was winning races most thought not possible and since the Type S was losing races to basically everything they ran with the Accord being faster too. I guess they thought the weight difference would make up for the performance gap.

Also, there’s a lot of haters and many Type S owners pulled out of the race so that group figured they were worried it would get whooped by an Accord. The thing is I keep seeing these same people say “a tuned Accord would beat the Type S”. The problem with that logic is that why would we race stock versus tuned to prove something? One would have to tune the Type S too, right?

BEAR-AvHistory

That does not work because the Honda was not beating the cars that the Acura was losing too. Most of us classified as haters, mostly car guys, understood that the Honda did not have the power or torque to win. Its best shot was the TLX.

Because the losers fans always say that which is as stupid as it sounds. Kind of like the guy that just got his butt royally kicked yelling Brandon as he runs away.

KrylonBlue

I agree with you.

But that’s not how some of those talking down on the Type S thought about it. I’ve read so many comment sections on his channel and it always turned into a “Type S is garbage” and how the competition was better in every way. I feel like these folks think the Type S is meant to be raw speed but it’s more of a well priced all around package. These same people saw the Accord winning so many races and then assumed Acura, due to it’s only victory coming against an ASPEC TLX at the time, that the Accord would make up it’s power differential with the loss of weight. Of course there were more logical people that said the Type S would win easily off the line but thought it would be closer on a roll but as we know the Type S did and should have won that too.

Everyone has a right to their preferences in what a car should be. For me Acura is a sport luxury brand that provides me good performance with comfort on its normal models. The Type S pumps the performance up to levels that provide way to have spirited drives but not so much track worthy. I’m not racing others so I don’t need 0-60 in 2 seconds as it seems others do. But if that’s their preference in a cars performance that’s okay too. Neither is wrong right?

Edit: To be clear I’m not referencing you when I mention these negative posters. Your points are 100% valid.

fiatlux

Your first mistake was putting any value in Youtube and Facebook comments . The average IQ of posters there has got to be about 50 points lower than the dumbest ones here (excluding SSFTSX of course).

KrylonBlue

Was I really mistaken since I didn’t put any value into their comments? 😉

BEAR-AvHistory

No problem. Personally never thought the TLX or the TLX-S is garbage or anything remotely resembling garbage. Have always tried to make the case it is a very good car poorly positioned by Acura's marketing department. My bitch is the Acura marketing department & the guys that take their words a gospel, if that makes me a hater so be it.

KrylonBlue

Gotta love marketing departments selling a product as something it was never meant to be. Acura is guilty of this without a doubt.

MarcoTLX

off topic, but did you know your Type-S was posted up on VINWiki app? 😭

bilirubin

Read the Youtube comments section on any of SamCarlegion's TLX videos, it's a viper pit of Type S haters. Some of the most popular comments claimed the Accord would beat the Type S on a roll (and a few even said from a dig).
It also doesn't help when Sam (who used to comment here) called the previous Type S owners on his videos "pathetic" on his Youtube community page (he later deleted the comments), and then called them "scared" and "losers" on this most recent video.

KrylonBlue

I just checked and I saw it. They posted images of my car after it was rear ended. 😭

I replied to the images, lol.

Kense

Why are you taking YouTube comments seriously? Most YT comments are either racists trolls or morons that can’t afford anything anyway.

MarcoTLX

i saw that and I was like “that type-s looks familiar…. Oh Krylon’s Type-S!”

bilirubin

I'm not. Look, fiatlux said the following......and I simply answered the question.

Honda430

I think the truth is that there were more than a few members here hoping the Accord would be faster and used the possibilty as a bludgeon to trash the Type S. Yes, there was quite a bit of that here.

BEAR-AvHistory

Sam just was very, very, unprofessional with those comments. Sort of pounds his credibility into the dirt. Like seeing the cars compete against each other but Slow Sam's comments are a good reason to cross him off my list.

BTW the people who expected the Honda to win do not understand much about performance cars or own a Honda looking for an underdog status lift. Best they could hope for was a close run, was not close.

ELIN

Didn't realize Sam had done that (no wonder he stopped posting here). A good YTber knows how to play both sides. Not a good move!

bilirubin

Agreed, Sam was and still is quite unprofessional. I thought he came to his senses when he deleted his previous "pathetic" comments, but he double-downed by later calling the previous Type S owners "losers" and "scared".

Looks like Sam will be releasing videos of the TLX Type S vs the Q50 Redsport, Tuned Civic 1.5T CVT, and a Kia K5 GT. Keep in mind the Tuned Civic CVT is no joke, it already beat a stock Civic Type R in a previous video.
The Type S will likely lose to the Redsport from a dig and roll (400hp and lighter curbweight), while it should be able to take the Tuned Civic and Kia K5 from a dig. A roll race with the two is a toss up though. The Kia has a greater HP-to-weight ratio, not sure about the Civic.

fiatlux

Sam has some of the worst commentary and “catch phrases” in the business.

A typical Sam video:

Blows the launch in a faster car

“COME ON!!! WHAT??? Nooo… He is taking me! He is just GOING! You are kidding me! Are you ACTUALLY kidding me? No… He is GETTING me, he is GETTING me. Whatttt? He WENT! And he is just GONE. Wow.”

Other is one car length in front

Kense

Sam gets killed by nearly every car brand owner. I remember when he drove a brand new G80 M3 and wasn’t impressed with the power lol. He got killed by BMW owners. The car wasn’t even broken in yet.

KrylonBlue

I mean he fits the bill of most of YouTube right? 😂

BEAR-AvHistory

Think these types of races are pure BS for legitimate comparison testing, maybe good for the Drag Strip on grudge night with a few bucks on the side. Tuned cars are about how much are you willing to spend to go quicker. Put enough money into a resident brick & it will beat cars with factory power.

Have had no issues with his TLX TLX-S tests do far as they are factory stock vs factory stock. One test, having a brain fart, looked a bit off to me as the car seemed to run quite a bit better than stock against Sam, or maybe it was just Slow Sam screwing up his launches. Would not be shocked if some ringers get in the mix. That's why they should run clocks or at minimum a Dragy in both cars.

Kia could be a good race depending on what version shows up. K5-GT 290/311 should be the one to run. Biggest issue can the FWD launch without breaking traction.

djhtsx

iTrader: (2)

this is exactly why I could never be a YouTuber. People criticizing you for the stupidest things… just makes no senses to me. Who cares… he’s putting out pretty decent content that you’re not seeing everywhere else. Obviously his races aren’t prefect and he doesn’t claim to be.

BEAR-AvHistory

Seriously?? He is staging a race. A race is run to see which car, horse, man, plane, boat, whatever is the fastest. That's all he does. If its not done correctly with competent drivers why do it at all? Just give all the cars participation trophy's. If he can't run something as simple as a Drag Race Sam could just drive around & pontificate like 90% of the other YouTubers reviewers do.

His content is not unique & other do it correctly. People who can't take criticism should all just stay in their mothers basements where its safe. Mommy will not criticize them thats why they stay there. Maybe they should have been involved in competitive sports, without participation trophy's when the were young. They would have developed a spine & be better persons for it when the coach Kindly Suggests that they might do something this way instead of screwing it up .

Think a big failing has been the elimination of the draft. First week in basic would have been a real eye opener for many individuals. Criticism from a DI is an art form. Maybe not keep then in for two years but just run them the Basic & Advance program. After 16/20 weeks you would have young people in good shape self-sufficient & able to take care of themselves.

loki

I made a lightweight comment on one of his videos about something and he went off the deep end insulting me and started arguing. I haven't watched any of his videos since and I hope his channel goes to shit. He's a clown.

F23A4

Pretty much. Used to be considered as schtick.

fiatlux

He refuses to use dragy or show any instrumented times because he knows he'll be exposed. The couple of times he did show the numbers, it revealed ended up being a second slower than the magazine times, which he used as justification for not continuing to show the numbers. Not only is he a clown, but he's wholly incompetant as an automative reviewer. The drag races might be fun to watch, but given the lack of consistency and robust testing procedures that's all they're good for.

Honda430

But, aren’t his races a fair representation of what would happen on the street in an impromptu race? There’s one thing being fast if you can engage launch control as opposed to your normal stop light run. Granted running a quarter mile would make up for a slow start yet the opportunity to race someone for a quarter mile while out running your errands or even driving on the interstate can’t be more than 1% of the entire length of ownership. I completely understand the allure of sitting in the knowledge that you have a potentially faster car, but in reality it’s a pissing contest that takes place more in your head than on the road.

fiatlux

Sure, it's a representative test if you're a lousy driver and the other driver knows what they're doing.

BEAR-AvHistory

The troops do not accept that as valid. Its a test of the cars & not a random street race. When doing a live one like the Honda/Acura run the guys watching real time were posting demands that the drivers switch because one driver sucked, which they did. People want to see which car is quicker not which driver.

Also I don't except that a poor start can be made up in a 1/4 mile race. Over the years I have beaten any number of cars that actually turned in a quicker 1/4 time. That why they print the reaction & 60ft times on the time slip.