Originally Posted by fiatlux

Thats the A4 interior (says right there in the URL). The S4 has a flat bottom steering wheel.

Originally Posted by pyrodan007

FFS, the Type-S just came out and nothing about it screams "I'm new". Just because it's a new model doesn't mean it's better. Hence the engine and 0-60, S4 still beats it.

Originally Posted by mec30

The videos I'm seeing have the TLX beating the S4. See minute 21:00.

https://youtu.be/jR0ZiXJ7lIs?t=1261

Originally Posted by pyrodan007

Something about that launch is off, if the S4 can do it in 4.3-4.5 and Type-S in 4.7-5.0 ... at one point the S4 should catch up

Originally Posted by iutodd

Look at the S4 5-60 time and you’ll get a sense of the disconnect.

Originally Posted by 04WDPSeDaN

My honest opinion as someone who was an ASE certified master technician, worked for Acura, BMW and Mercedes, As an car enthusiasts, the biggest issue I see down the road is the engine having issues. The design is rarely used and has been used before. It's complex and can lead to a number of issues down the road. Acura MAY HAVE tested this vehicle up to 100K in two years, but that is still SHORT TERM. Over the 8-10 years and heat being a big issue, things will deteriorate. That's long term / real word testing. I've talked to multiple Acura technicians and they are already dreading working on this. I can't see many aftermarket companies that are going to supply aftermarket support for this vehicle. It's a new engine never used before. I've said it many times before, I wouldn't be the 1st to jump on a tune because the details of this engine and what it can handle is still unknown. The ECU and management is still unknown. It's NOT a proven engine or setup, unlike the 2.0T. That aside,for 55K+ what are you REALLY getting at this point? That's been the whole debate. I personally think this TLX-S won't have the same demand as the 3rd gen TL-S. Look how different the auto industry has CHANGED from the last TL-S. Sedans are on the verge of death and sooner or later, EV vehicles will consume the market. They slept for 10 years and came back too late in my opinion. The best of Acura is long gone. These new Acuras are artificial and make you feel disconnected. Acura brings a bunch of Pro honda / Acura auto journalist to test the TLX-S, who didn't see that coming? All the reviews are going to be bias anyway. You hope this will be better than the Q50/Q60 but the common response you see from others that have no idea how performance actually works is the TLX-S has bs hp/tq numbers while the Q50/Q60 has a lot more, but forget about all the other factors. Unfortunately we live in a world where HP sells and faster 0-60 times has become the most obsession.

Originally Posted by Honda430

I see the haters are out in full force today. 😂😂😂😂

Originally Posted by SebringSilver

Was that directed at me? I’ve owned 10 Acuras, and still have one, so pretty sure I’m not a hater. It’s sad that objectivity and honesty are not appreciated here.

Originally Posted by SebringSilver

Why compare it to the S4 at all? Knowing what we all know now, no one in their right mind would get a Type S over the S5 Sportback.

Originally Posted by pyrodan007

Pretty sure that was directed at me, even though I still own an original Type-S ...

Originally Posted by 04WDPSeDaN

My honest opinion as someone who was an ASE certified master technician, worked for Acura, BMW and Mercedes, As an car enthusiasts, the biggest issue I see down the road is the engine having issues. The design is rarely used and has been used before. It's complex and can lead to a number of issues down the road. Acura MAY HAVE tested this vehicle up to 100K in two years, but that is still SHORT TERM. Over the 8-10 years and heat being a big issue, things will deteriorate. That's long term / real word testing. I've talked to multiple Acura technicians and they are already dreading working on this. I can't see many aftermarket companies that are going to supply aftermarket support for this vehicle. It's a new engine never used before. I've said it many times before, I wouldn't be the 1st to jump on a tune because the details of this engine and what it can handle is still unknown. The ECU and management is still unknown. It's NOT a proven engine or setup, unlike the 2.0T. That aside,for 55K+ what are you REALLY getting at this point? That's been the whole debate. I personally think this TLX-S won't have the same demand as the 3rd gen TL-S. Look how different the auto industry has CHANGED from the last TL-S. Sedans are on the verge of death and sooner or later, EV vehicles will consume the market. They slept for 10 years and came back too late in my opinion. The best of Acura is long gone. These new Acuras are artificial and make you feel disconnected. Acura brings a bunch of Pro honda / Acura auto journalist to test the TLX-S, who didn't see that coming? All the reviews are going to be bias anyway. You hope this will be better than the Q50/Q60 but the common response you see from others that have no idea how performance actually works is the TLX-S has bs hp/tq numbers while the Q50/Q60 has a lot more, but forget about all the other factors. Unfortunately we live in a world where HP sells and faster 0-60 times has become the most obsession.

Originally Posted by SebringSilver

Why compare it to the S4 at all? Knowing what we all know now, no one in their right mind would get a Type S over the S5 Sportback.

Originally Posted by Honda430

I see the haters are out in full force today. 😂😂😂😂

Originally Posted by Tony Pac

Thanks for posting all the reviews fam! Truly enjoyed them. Positive, negative and neutral comments from the reviewers and members here are great to see.

I won't like the 0-60 number on paper isn't impressive and I am a bit disappointed. I was hooping for 4.5 (believe me I am not a 0-60 guy, but still). But overall, what Acura has done is impressive. After a decade of struggle and making ordinary cars, I am glad to see Acura has built a car that is very competitive with the Germans with much lower price tag. AoA said one thing: 340 is an amazing performance machine but is it worth $10K more? That depends on the person, but I would say the TLX TYPE S brings Acura to the next level and hopefully with time, future refreshes and models, they become better and better.

Time to test drive one now

Originally Posted by mec30

The videos I'm seeing have the TLX beating the S4. See minute 21:00.

https://youtu.be/jR0ZiXJ7lIs?t=1261

Originally Posted by pyrodan007

Something about that launch is off, if the S4 can do it in 4.3-4.5 and Type-S in 4.7-5.0 ... at one point the S4 should catch up

Originally Posted by iutodd

Look at the S4 5-60 time and you’ll get a sense of the disconnect.

Originally Posted by fiatlux

I called three local dealers here around SF. One of them was mum about ADM, but two of them said they're planning on a $10-15K ADM for the first year or two.

Originally Posted by neuronbob

I think the Type S is a great value and it's going to be fun to watch the aftermarket start to mod this car. Unlike the naysayers, I think it will sell, and sell well, especially if the dealers don't resort to above MSRP sales tactics. Is it the fastest, the roomiest? No. But is it engaging to drive? Seems like it'll be a fun drive.

Is it enough for me to sell my nearly new, new-to-me RLX Sport Hybrid right now to acquire one? Not at the price of entry for my RLX. Not a fair comparison, sure, but that's where I'm at personally.

Originally Posted by neuronbob

I think the Type S is a great value and it's going to be fun to watch the aftermarket start to mod this car. Unlike the naysayers, I think it will sell, and sell well, especially if the dealers don't resort to above MSRP sales tactics. Is it the fastest, the roomiest? No. But is it engaging to drive? Seems like it'll be a fun drive.

Is it enough for me to sell my nearly new, new-to-me RLX Sport Hybrid right now to acquire one? Not at the price of entry for my RLX. Not a fair comparison, sure, but that's where I'm at personally.

Originally Posted by mec30

The videos I'm seeing have the TLX beating the S4. See minute 21:00.

https://youtu.be/jR0ZiXJ7lIs?t=1261

Originally Posted by SebringSilver

Was that directed at me? I’ve owned 10 Acuras, and still have one, so pretty sure I’m not a hater. It’s sad that objectivity and honesty are not appreciated here.

Originally Posted by sonyfever

I would not disagree with you about the various points, but let's take reliability and tuning away and just look at the car at its core. The core of Acura is decent performance at an easy-on-wallet price. Type-S has that checked. Artificial? Well, I would argue even M340 feels artificial without the engine sound. Of course TLX hit the wrong size targets that irk many people, I think that is the only real weakness of the car because in the old days one can always say with less performance compared to European competitors, Acura at least is more practical. As long the price stays where it should be, I don't see how the car will do as bad as Q50. Q50 RS is honestly a sloppy effort from Infinity, which I hope Lexus does not repeat on IS500.

Originally Posted by vhtran

Why can't members have different opinions without being labeled as haters? Pretty sure those members have Acura cars in their driveways.



Sadly, this is like when you go to a computer store and they display MORE RAM, MORE SPEED hahaha. Aside from the joke, This car will be good for tuners like one of the members mentioned, this engine is new and we don't know the long term yet. For me, what I see is that it's a turbo car now and it will not last as long as the old N/A engine depends on how bad the owner wants his/her car to get that 0-60 time and if the tranny will be able to handle more power. Also, keep in mind that turbo is a wear and tear part. =)

Originally Posted by SRB-TL

Watch the S4 closely, you can see the nose dive as it goes into 2nd gear. Driver eased off the gas pedal. Intentional or not, it happened.

Originally Posted by djhtsx

completely disagree. I test drove the s5 and almost purchased a fully load prestige model which would have been 70k. I just couldn’t get myself to spend that kind of money on a s5. While I havent drove the tlx yet the s5 is super quick and I bet you’ll get the same experience from the type S. The s5 feels small and narrow compared to the tlx which was a big negative for me. Both interiors are nice. But the exterior styling looks better on the type S and it definitely has more road presence.

Originally Posted by SebringSilver

The key words in your post are “haven’t driven the TLX yet”.

Originally Posted by Honda430

I see the thin skinned haters are out in full force today. 😂😂😂😂

Originally Posted by SRB-TL

Watch the S4 closely, you can see it nose dive as it goes into 2nd gear. Driver eased off the gas pedal. Intentional or not, it happened.

Originally Posted by mec30

I doubt it. Both cars noses dip at the gear change. That's normal. They are both automatics so the driver of the S4 has no reason to take his foot off the gas. Sofyan himself is reputable.

I want to stay away from the conspiracy theories until more tests are run.

Originally Posted by SebringSilver

Was that directed at me? I’ve owned 10 Acuras, and still have one, so pretty sure I’m not a hater. It’s sad that objectivity and honesty are not appreciated here.

Originally Posted by pyrodan007

Pretty sure that was directed at me, even though I still own an original Type-S ...

Originally Posted by neuronbob

I think the Type S is a great value and it's going to be fun to watch the aftermarket start to mod this car. Unlike the naysayers, I think it will sell, and sell well, especially if the dealers don't resort to above MSRP sales tactics. Is it the fastest, the roomiest? No. But is it engaging to drive? Seems like it'll be a fun drive.

Is it enough for me to sell my nearly new, new-to-me RLX Sport Hybrid right now to acquire one? Not at the price of entry for my RLX. Not a fair comparison, sure, but that's where I'm at personally.

Originally Posted by Tony Pac

Thanks for posting all the reviews fam! Truly enjoyed them. Positive, negative and neutral comments from the reviewers and members here are great to see.

I won't like the 0-60 number on paper isn't impressive and I am a bit disappointed. I was hooping for 4.5 (believe me I am not a 0-60 guy, but still). But overall, what Acura has done is impressive. After a decade of struggle and making ordinary cars, I am glad to see Acura has built a car that is very competitive with the Germans with much lower price tag. AoA said one thing: 340 is an amazing performance machine but is it worth $10K more? That depends on the person, but I would say the TLX TYPE S brings Acura to the next level and hopefully with time, future refreshes and models, they become better and better.

Time to test drive one now

Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory

Did a Build Your Car on a M340 as I would buy it came out to $61,000. My last 440i was $63,000 so am not low balling my choices to get a number. Regular discounts & rebates. about 10% would bring the OTD price before tax to $55.000. A TLX Type-S at MSRP + ADM will be about $65,000. So I believe you might have your $10,000 more expensive for the M340 upside down.

Have no doubt Honda people will buy it but don't think they will win any converts.

Originally Posted by djhtsx

the key is performance does not justify the higher cost.

Originally Posted by SebringSilver

LOL what??

So why is Acura charging more for a Type S than it does a regular TLX??

Originally Posted by robnalex

A 1 to 1.5-second improvement in 0-60 over the 4-cylinder is unimpressive and negligible. What interests me is how quickly the car gets moving from a cruising speed. I'm 97% happy with my 4-cylinder S-AWD. I just wish she moved faster in a pinch. I normally drive in "normal" mode and really have to floor it at highway speeds if I want to make a quick move, and even then I'm usually wishing for more juice. Often there's not enough time, or my reflexes are too lazy to kick it into "sport" in time. So, I guess I'm more interested in 65-90 MPH times. At lower speeds (30-40) there is way too much lag in "normal" mode when you kick it. So, screw 0-60. If the type-s will move its ass more quickly in a pinch, I'll be interested.

Originally Posted by djhtsx

Can you not comprehend? Im obviously comparing the s5 vs type s and stating that the performance bump doesn’t justify the cost

Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory

Yeah if you are an Interstate driver where traffic rolls along with many doing speed limit 70+10/15 a car needs mid range power to make clean/safe passes. The S should be good for that. What really surprises me so far is the chart one of the guys posted where the I4 & V6 have exactly the same transmission & rear gear ratios. Usually these are different to best utilize the engines power/torque curves.