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So, after reading every post in this forum, watching all of the online reviews, and driving the car everyday for the past 10 days, I decided to do my own testing for 0-60 with my own equipment.
Living in Central NJ, I am fortunate to have a to. Of roads near me that doing launch testing is pretty simple.
I have seen times posted ranging from 4.7 to 5.3 seconds.
I did a total of 6 launches, 3 going each direction, using Sport + and S transmission. The 1st run each way I kept traction control engaged, completely off for the final 2 runs each direction. I released the brakes between 2000-2500 RPM.
My results:
5.03 (tc on)
4.81
4.85
5.1 (tc on)
4.79
4.78
While not blisteringly quick, surely quick enough.
It does feel like there is an intentional power restriction taking place at launch for whatever reasons the engineers felt it is needed.
For comparison, I have launched the Turbo S to 60 in well under 3 sec, Giulia Quad was 3.9 (traction challenged), and a G70 in 4.65.
So all of the complaining is not making sense to me. A 4.8 car, being 4200 lbs and as big as it is, is totally acceptable considering the real strength of the car is its handling.
This forum is odd. Never have I seen a dedicated enthusiast forum crapping so hard on the brand that it's repping. Surprised the admins haven't come down on the mods more to rein it in cause that's not good for advertising revenue or sponsors when it's like "don't come here cause it's just as toxic as YT comments".
Originally Posted by Honda430
That's something I've always wondered. There are a few voracious posters that are really no more than trolls. If all you have is an ultra negative opinion about the TLX you probably shouldn't be here. While I completely understand constructive criticism what we have too much of here is simply just shitting on the car over and over again for every small fault some folks find. A frequent poster who had nothing to offer in regard to the specific subject of the forum other than vitriol would be booted off most dedicated forums.
I'll chime in here and I'll preface this by stating that I have discussed this 'offline' with this subforum's moderator (CheeseyPoofs McNut). So this will be more of 'moderator's note' than my usual opinion posting.
Part of the 'issue' here (and somewhat of a backstory) is that there are some long timers here who are deeply attached to the brand due to their legacy products and original mission. For better or worse (subjectively), the brand has sinced moved in a direction that many have taken issue with. I personally think this began with the 4G TL (largely its controversial styling) as well as the transition from the Euro-Accord based TSX to something seen as less sporty and more bloated. (This was during the brand's shield heyday.)
While the TL aesthetics were more of an acquired taste, there's no disputing that the engineering and quality control aspects were top notch. When the TL later transitioned to the TLX (and the TSX mercifully discontinued), many feel that the brand went backwards in creating a mediocre sports sedan that was more of a premium 9G Accord than a viable competitor to the IS or Q50, let alone the 3 series and A4. This was probably the generation of TL/TLX that eroded the brand's enthusisast-level fanbase in the largest (and most vocal) numbers.
Now, on some level Acura was listening, as the 2G TLX is a major separation from the equivalent accord. (Chassis dynamics and general handling along is head and shoulders above the Accord Sport/Touring). But for some, this wasn't enough. Adding to it was the brand's buildup of the Type S moniker for TLX duty which did not meet the expectations of many....including myself. (In a vacuum, the TLX and Type S are exceptional sports sedans. However, this isnt a vacuum and the segment has a number of great players that largely outperform the finished product that is the Type S.)
At this point, one could either embrace the TLX for what it is -- a solid entry (both trim levels) in the segment that's largely sporty enough for most -- OR move on to another make whose product better meets their expectations, which is totally understandable. (I love the S4/S5 and think it's a fantastic sports sedan; and my personally love for the M340i and the BMW brand has been duly noted on several occassions; currently shopping around for a gently used E92 335i coupe myself...but that's for another discussion).
The problem here (and this is more to your point), there's a subset of the latter who are vocally making this a contentious divorce (of sorts). While they may have moved or will be moving on to another brand, they seem to feel somewhat scorned by the brand.
So, there's this need to vent this out sometimes at the expense of those who find the TLX quite acceptable. As such, I am concerned about owners being shamed by opting to go with the new TLX over its contemporaries.
I wont go into all the 'why' and 'why not' of this model (in this post) but will say that everyone's tastes and preferences need to be respected. Passing public judgment on 'John' for choosing the TLX A-Spec SH-AWD when 'Jack' and 'Susan' totally feel that the 'Giulia Ti Sport RWD' is the superior choice doesnt fly with me either and I've considered dropping (and still may drop) the hammer a few times. I think the M340i is completely superior to the TLX-S on most fronts (particularly in consideration of the ADM imposed on many buyers) but I will happly congratulate those who've recently acquired the latter AND not belabor them with the attributes that I feel they may be missing out on with their selection; no one here is qualified to be so sanctimonous.
Opinions are valued on this board, particularly when they are insightful. But no one opinion is superior to another, no matter the impetus (perceived or actual) may be. Going forward, if I sense that any posts are detrimental to the local discussion or the viability of the board in general, I will make sure that it's dealt with accordingly.
Ping Cheesy or me at any time if any of you feel like you're being chastised by any other users soley due to your preferences.
So, after reading every post in this forum, watching all of the online reviews, and driving the car everyday for the past 10 days, I decided to do my own testing for 0-60 with my own equipment.
Living in Central NJ, I am fortunate to have a to. Of roads near me that doing launch testing is pretty simple.
I have seen times posted ranging from 4.7 to 5.3 seconds.
I did a total of 6 launches, 3 going each direction, using Sport + and S transmission. The 1st run each way I kept traction control engaged, completely off for the final 2 runs each direction. I released the brakes between 2000-2500 RPM.
My results:
5.03 (tc on)
4.81
4.85
5.1 (tc on)
4.79
4.78
While not blisteringly quick, surely quick enough.
It does feel like there is an intentional power restriction taking place at launch for whatever reasons the engineers felt it is needed.
For comparison, I have launched the Turbo S to 60 in well under 3 sec, Giulia Quad was 3.9 (traction challenged), and a G70 in 4.65.
So all of the complaining is not making sense to me. A 4.8 car, being 4200 lbs and as big as it is, is totally acceptable considering the real strength of the car is its handling.
Just an FYI
Thanks for taking the time and sharing your experience. Much appreciated. At least someone who owns the car and writing nice summaries
I just hate all of the mis-information being spread.
Btw, Im just an average driver. I have done 4 HPD experiences with Porsche and also did Spring Mountain for Vettes.
Ive driven on track multiple times with my own cars in the past as well. Nothing special at all.
Also, the chances are that I will NEVER launch the Type S again. This was just done out of curiosity.
I find it funny reading all of the posts about missing the performance targets and bashing the engineering of the car. I would bet any sum of money that 95% or more of the folks on this forum would be able to tell the difference between a 4.5 second 0-60 and a 4.8 sec 0-60 during day to day street driving, it is not perceptible.
What is perceptible, every time you drive the car, is the handling balance and benefits of SH-AWD and how it separates this car from its competition in so many situations. Nobody seems to talk about the strengths.
I just hate all of the mis-information being spread.
Btw, Im just an average driver. I have done 4 HPD experiences with Porsche and also did Spring Mountain for Vettes.
Ive driven on track multiple times with my own cars in the past as well. Nothing special at all.
Also, the chances are that I will NEVER launch the Type S again. This was just done out of curiosity.
I find it funny reading all of the posts about missing the performance targets and bashing the engineering of the car. I would bet any sum of money that 95% or more of the folks on this forum would be able to tell the difference between a 4.5 second 0-60 and a 4.8 sec 0-60 during day to day street driving, it is not perceptible.
What is perceptible, every time you drive the car, is the handling balance and benefits of SH-AWD and how it separates this car from its competition in so many situations. Nobody seems to talk about the strengths.
Thank you! Finally...soon you will be labeled fanboy ahahah!
Type S power is definitely restricted from the start. Even when you launch it is very mild launch at best. 4.7 is not bad given the size and weight of this car.
When I was a kid my dad had a 77 Corvette that felt like a rocket. I looked up the 0 - 60 times for it and it in the 6's!
Thanks for posting your times for the Type S - I'll bet it was a fun time.
When I was in high school, my dream car was a Porsche 930 Turbo (3.3L with the tea tray intercooler).
Kinda amusing how some of the 1978 930 Turbo's performance is pretty close to a 2021 Type-S.
I'm surprised no one has called him out yet on the other cars he claims to own or has owned
In seriousness, thanks for sharing your updates and experiences with the car. Nice to have a growing number of owners now that it's finally getting out there.
I'm surprised no one has called him out yet on the other cars he claims to own or has owned
In seriousness, thanks for sharing your updates and experiences with the car. Nice to have a growing number of owners now that it's finally getting out there.
Seems solid enough! I live in Central Jersey as well. We should do a couple of runs some time.
Would like to see that. Maybe the two of you could visit your favorite track & do a handicap grudge match. You dial in 13.6 & he dials in 10.1 with a pro-tree.. Do a Slow Sam style video for us.
Last edited by BEAR-AvHistory; 08-24-2021 at 04:17 PM.
I just hate all of the mis-information being spread.
Btw, Im just an average driver. I have done 4 HPD experiences with Porsche and also did Spring Mountain for Vettes.
Ive driven on track multiple times with my own cars in the past as well. Nothing special at all.
Also, the chances are that I will NEVER launch the Type S again. This was just done out of curiosity.
I find it funny reading all of the posts about missing the performance targets and bashing the engineering of the car. I would bet any sum of money that 95% or more of the folks on this forum would be able to tell the difference between a 4.5 second 0-60 and a 4.8 sec 0-60 during day to day street driving, it is not perceptible.
What is perceptible, every time you drive the car, is the handling balance and benefits of SH-AWD and how it separates this car from its competition in so many situations. Nobody seems to talk about the strengths.
Spot on with the the comment that people can't feel the difference. My biggest laugh at the angst that we've seen are the people that are angry that an A-Spec is three lengths behind the Accord or the Type S is slower than that M340i in the quarter mile. The speed differences that exist are only perceptible when either directly measured or when racing side by side. In any real world driving situation, both cars are perfectly acceptable in their class, but man, people love to whip it out and measure it!
1st, I used a VBox. It s a fairly new one purchased around the holidays.
2nd, why anyone would question or call me out on my cars is beyond me. I ve purchased over 125 cars over the past 20 years. Its my vice and its my money.
Generally, I stick with Porsche 911s or Vettes, occasionally mixing in M or AMG cars. Ive also had a number of Lexus (LC500, RCF) and a few Maserati and an Alfa.
my biggest purchase was a 2018 NSX, which I kept for 6 months and sold it. Thats how I was able to get the Type S without ADM.
I'm surprised no one has called him out yet on the other cars he claims to own or has owned
In seriousness, thanks for sharing your updates and experiences with the car. Nice to have a growing number of owners now that it's finally getting out there.
That's what I said....
The OP doesn't care which is great. He is proud of his purchase and he doesn't need to justify anything to anyone
1st, I used a VBox. It s a fairly new one purchased around the holidays.
2nd, why anyone would question or call me out on my cars is beyond me. I ve purchased over 125 cars over the past 20 years. Its my vice and its my money.
Generally, I stick with Porsche 911s or Vettes, occasionally mixing in M or AMG cars. Ive also had a number of Lexus (LC500, RCF) and a few Maserati and an Alfa.
my biggest purchase was a 2018 NSX, which I kept for 6 months and sold it. Thats how I was able to get the Type S without ADM.
Interesting Stable of cars for you to be impressed by a Type S after having all of that. I don't think I've ever heard of anybody with those cars going back to an Acura.
So, after reading every post in this forum, watching all of the online reviews, and driving the car everyday for the past 10 days, I decided to do my own testing for 0-60 with my own equipment.
Living in Central NJ, I am fortunate to have a to. Of roads near me that doing launch testing is pretty simple.
I have seen times posted ranging from 4.7 to 5.3 seconds.
I did a total of 6 launches, 3 going each direction, using Sport + and S transmission. The 1st run each way I kept traction control engaged, completely off for the final 2 runs each direction. I released the brakes between 2000-2500 RPM.
My results:
5.03 (tc on)
4.81
4.85
5.1 (tc on)
4.79
4.78
While not blisteringly quick, surely quick enough.
It does feel like there is an intentional power restriction taking place at launch for whatever reasons the engineers felt it is needed.
For comparison, I have launched the Turbo S to 60 in well under 3 sec, Giulia Quad was 3.9 (traction challenged), and a G70 in 4.65.
So all of the complaining is not making sense to me. A 4.8 car, being 4200 lbs and as big as it is, is totally acceptable considering the real strength of the car is its handling.
Just an FYI
Are they any differences in running the TLX in Sport +, but in D transmission (not S)?
Interesting Stable of cars for you to be impressed by a Type S after having all of that. I don't think I've ever heard of anybody with those cars going back to an Acura.
Impressed isnt a word I have ever used. 1, its not going backwards to Acura. They are a luxury brand regardless. Just like Lexus, Infiniti, Volvo, Cadillac. While none of those brands are as prestigious as the Germans, nor are they as special as the Italians, they are feature for feature equivalent luxury.
Plus, why spend $70k to $90k for an equivalent German car when the purpose is daily driving, winter driving, etc when I get the same luxury and performance for $54k?
Im telling you guys, unless you have driven the Type S in various different conditions and ways, it is silly to form opinions by picking bits and pieces of YouTube reviews regardless as to the reviewer (Carlos, Matt Farrah, Matt Moran, Redline, etc ). Have you always agreed with their opinions?
I own the car, paid cash plus my Alfa Quad Payoff, and I could by any car I want. After my research, my test drive, and my process, the Acura was whats right for me for this application.
A Panamera, M550, M340, any Audi, etc could also work but wouldnt work better, especially $15k to $50k better.
Impressed isn’t a word I have ever used. 1, it’s not going backwards to Acura. They are a luxury brand regardless. Just like Lexus, Infiniti, Volvo, Cadillac. While none of those brands are as prestigious as the Germans, nor are they as special as the Italians, they are feature for feature equivalent luxury.
Plus, why spend $70k to $90k for an equivalent German car when the purpose is daily driving, winter driving, etc… when I get the same luxury and performance for $54k?
I’m telling you guys, unless you have driven the Type S in various different conditions and ways, it is silly to form opinions by picking bits and pieces of YouTube reviews regardless as to the reviewer (Carlos, Matt Farrah, Matt Moran, Redline, etc…). Have you always agreed with their opinions?
I own the car, paid cash plus my Alfa Quad Payoff, and I could by any car I want. After my research, my test drive, and my process, the Acura was what’s right for me for this application.
A Panamera, M550, M340, any Audi, etc… could also work but wouldn’t work better, especially $15k to $50k better.
So you're not impresed by the car? What German car is a $70k-$90K equivilent? $70K is where an M3 starts at. I paid just under $59k For an M340i with most options other than Laser lights. When I say going backwards Acura is an entry level luxary brand. If you have Porshe's, Alfa's M Cars and AMG cars. You'd be in very small company to say let me go buy an Acura now. Unless it was for your kids or something.
Do you think Steph Curry really drives an Infiniti or LeBron a Kia?
I buy cars based upon the purpose and need I have at the time.
The NSX had a $203k sticker. I got $30k back from Acura and a $17,500 discount from the dealer. When I sold it I made $10k.
The Turbo S sticker red for $206k. I bought right before Covid and got a great discount (Ive purchased 10 911s from this dealer), and it was bought as my weekend driver. Ive had GT3s, GTS, 6 C4S, etc
There is nothing like a 911. NSX couldnt compare.
I agree Acura, like Infiniti Volvo Lexus or Genesis, are in the same tier of car and a step behind the Germans in prestige, but Im not worried about prestige. Quite honestly, my wifes Range Rover is as prestigious as it gets and its a piece of garbage.
The TLX Type S is a tweener car. Its as big as a 5 series and competes with a 3 series so the comparisons are really endless. I am not a fan of the current BMW design language (accept the 8 series) and I would not buy one. Regardless of whether its an M, M550, or M340. I find them boring and cookie cutter. Same with Mercedes. They all look alike. I do love the Audi A/S/RS 7 but Im not a fan of how they handle.
But the status driven remarks must be coming from young guys or trolls because the insecurity is overflowing from your comments.
So you're not impresed by the car? What German car is a $70k-$90K equivilent? $70K is where an M3 starts at. I paid just under $59k For an M340i with most options other than Laser lights. When I say going backwards Acura is an entry level luxary brand. If you have Porshe's, Alfa's M Cars and AMG cars. You'd be in very small company to say let me go buy an Acura now. Unless it was for your kids or something.
Do you think Steph Curry really drives an Infiniti or LeBron a Kia?
Gotta wonder why some guy in Jersey with a whole mess of cars needs a TLX Type-S for a daily driver? I don't think he mentioned one single car, that he says he has, that would not be a very effective daily driver. I drove a BB '67 StingRay from Spring Lake on the Jersey Shore to Wall St NYC (Jersey City Parking lot) most days when I was in country for 28 years. Strange choice of car maybe but it was a fun ride. Hard to get in any more daily driving than that without being a salesman.
Given a choice today I take the red car as the first choice to go anyplace except Costco. Some guys like sedans I like two doors. But if I wanted to drive a sedan my first choice would be an M5. The OP says he is price unlimited & drives a $200,000 Porsche. Lot more bucks than my old Carrera 4S but certainly not something that could not be run as a Daily Driver.
Acura is a two sedan brand with an average selling price of $45,000 (Local dealers have 37 out of 66 @ $45K or less.) Within that 66 the hot selling inventory of the Type-S has moved from 5 yesterday to 7 today. The average car price in 2020 was a bit over $40,000 so the TLX is not exactly an out of reach luxury item for most people with a decent job. Want a luxury daily driver get in the two ton Panzer class with an M5 or S-580 4MATIC sedan. Believe he said he already had an M & an AMG so why drop to a TLX when you can drive something that can do everything better?
What doesn't fit that well are comments about, "why spend $70k to $90k for an equivalent German car when the purpose is daily driving, winter driving, etc… when I get the same luxury and performance for $54k?" You should be unaffected by price & to say the TLX Type -S is an equivalent to a $90,000 car is just weird. Don't even think Tony Pax would say that.
Just curious about the WHY part of the logic. Why do this? Why put you backside in a Type-S every day when you can put it in a 911?
BTW Wonder how many guys here would take a M5 in an even swap for a Type S as a daily driver?
Last edited by BEAR-AvHistory; 08-24-2021 at 08:07 PM.
Interesting Stable of cars for you to be impressed by a Type S after having all of that. I don't think I've ever heard of anybody with those cars going back to an Acura.
I sold my daily driver, a beautiful and very fast (decidedly non-stock) Jag V-12 convertible and bought my '07 Type-S. Of course the original Type-S wasn't as fast, but I was ready for a change.
Now, thanks to my disappointment in the new Type-S, and the fact that Jag has discontinued both V8 and V6 sedans in favor of I4s, I'm thinking of a BMW. I'll probably get an M550ix, it might be the last gasp of a high performance V-8 touring sedan from BMW. It's halfway through its facelift years and rumor has it the next version will be electric or hybrid. Even if there is still a pure V8 M5 again I wouldn't want an M5 simply because the track focus makes them less enjoyable to take on a trip.
I sold my daily driver, a beautiful and very fast (decidedly non-stock) Jag V-12 convertible and bought my '07 Type-S. Of course the original Type-S wasn't as fast, but I was ready for a change.
Now, thanks to my disappointment in the new Type-S, and the fact that Jag has discontinued both V8 and V6 sedans in favor of I4s, I'm thinking of a BMW. I'll probably get an M550ix, it might be the last gasp of a high performance V-8 touring sedan from BMW. It's halfway through its facelift years and rumor has it the next version will be electric or hybrid. Even if there is still a pure V8 M5 again I wouldn't want an M5 simply because the track focus makes them less enjoyable to take on a trip.
Ok but this guy claims to have and have had millions of dollars worth of Luxury and sports cars but gets a Type S? Of all the Daily Drivers one can afford lol non sense
Yes, I can afford any sedan. I didnt say driving dynamics of BMW or MB were boring. I said the design is boring and cookie cutter. The C class looks exactly like an E class which looks exactly like an S class. 3 series looks like a 5 series which looks like a 7 series. Same exterior design and same interior layout. For me, to my eye, they are not appealing.
BTW, I honestly believe the S class is the best car in the world at any price.
I already have my expensive car in the garage. The Porsche is 100% daily drivable, but choose treat it as a weekend car, special occasion car, and my my time car.
The Acura is not expensive and I think it is a great value and perfect for what I need
Ok but this guy claims to have and have had millions of dollars worth of Luxury and sports cars but gets a Type S? Of all the Daily Drivers one can afford lol non sense
Of course its nonsense. He lives in Jersey & need a beater for the winter. Give me a break. I was born & raised in Jersey & it ain't Wisconsin or Montana in the winter where a Snowmobile is a good plan. Then he going to leave all the inventory parked while he runs around in the TLX Type-S waiting for the weekend to take one of the good cars out.
Never understood that logic. Cars are for driving not hiding in a garage. If you have a top end car drive it as much as you can because someday you will not be able to drive.
Of course its nonsense. He lives in Jersey & need a beater for the winter. Give me a break. I was born & raised in Jersey & it ain't Wisconsin or Montana in the winter where a Snowmobile is a good plan. Then he going to leave all the inventory parked while he runs around in the TLX Type-S waiting for the weekend to take one of the good cars out.
Never understood that logic. Cars are for driving not hiding in a garage. If you have a top end car drive it as much as you can because someday you will not be able to drive.
Thought I would add this one, not as much snow hey its NC
275F & 315R road course tires are very entertaining in the snow.
- I’m 54 yr old and don’t like sitting on the floor daily anymore.
- I frequently have more than 1 passenger
Listen, I have friends worth $xxx millions and they only will drive Honda or Toyota.Wouldn’t even consider German
it isn’t about money or having garage queens. I don’t need 2 cars that have the same purpose.
Why would I have a Wrangler instead of a G Wagon or Defender?
it is an idiotic argument.
Love it the wealthy "virtue signaling" riding around it a Honda & disliking Porsche. Such a classic line "I have a very rich friend who".........Pick something silly "Like eats only at McDonalds".
This is going down hill into the twilight zone now so lets bailout & do this. You were asked earlier by one of the guys if the times you put up with or without rollout? I was also interested in what the answer night be. With or Without?
Last edited by BEAR-AvHistory; 08-24-2021 at 09:44 PM.
This is going down hill into the twilight zone now so lets bailout & do this. You were asked earlier by one of the guys if the times you put up with or without rollout? I was also interested in what the answer night be. With or Without?
4.8s without rollout is substantially faster than what the magazines recorded (C&D got 4.9s with rollout). Congrats, sounds like you got a factory freak.
4.8s without rollout is substantially faster than what the magazines recorded (C&D got 4.9s with rollout). Congrats, sounds like you got a factory freak.
Of course its nonsense. He lives in Jersey & need a beater for the winter. Give me a break. I was born & raised in Jersey & it ain't Wisconsin or Montana in the winter where a Snowmobile is a good plan. Then he going to leave all the inventory parked while he runs around in the TLX Type-S waiting for the weekend to take one of the good cars out.
Never understood that logic. Cars are for driving not hiding in a garage. If you have a top end car drive it as much as you can because someday you will not be able to drive.
I can agree on some of your points you post but you sound like a pure hater bro. Let it go and let this man enjoy his collection.
any of us who give anything to have that fleet of vehicles.
I would bet any sum of money that 95% or more of the folks on this forum would be able to tell the difference between a 4.5 second 0-60 and a 4.8 sec 0-60 during day to day street driving, it is not perceptible.
What is perceptible, every time you drive the car, is the handling balance and benefits of SH-AWD and how it separates this car from its competition in so many situations. Nobody seems to talk about the strengths.
It's very perceptible when you are being gapped on the road, not to mention the gap is larger than your numbers....
Type-S S4
C/D TEST RESULTS C/D TEST RESULTS 60 mph: 4.9 sec W 60 mph: 4.2 sec 100 mph: 12.6 sec W 100 mph: 10.7 sec 1/4-Mile: 13.6 sec @ 103 mph W Ό-mile: 12.8 sec @ 108 mph 130 mph: 24.2 sec W 130 mph: 19.5 sec Results above omit 1-ft rollout of 0.3 sec. Rollout, 1 ft: 0.2 sec Rolling Start, 560 mph: 5.5 sec W! Rolling start, 560 mph: 5.7 sec Top Gear, 3050 mph: 3.3 sec W Top gear, 3050 mph: 2.8 sec Top Gear, 5070 mph: 4.5 sec W Top gear, 5070 mph: 3.6 sec Top Speed (C/D est): 155 mph Top speed (governor limited, mfr's claim): 155 mph Braking, 700 mph: 165 ft W Braking, 700 mph: 162 ft Roadholding, 300-ft Skidpad: 0.96 g W Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.95 g
Oddly the A4 beats them all with 0.97 skidpad on all-seasons vs these two with Summer treads. They both need a diet.
I don't think the Type-S is a bad car but I'm tired of hearing the excuses. Just admit it, Acura screwed the pooch. They targeted the car above? Does it really look that way? Line up at a track for some fun and watch the S4 destroy you, and it's the next slowest in the class according to many.
Acura went as far as faking a drag race at the racetrack launch event. That is simply inexcusable.
You got a factory freak to beat Car&Driver's results. Either way the S4's numbers put them to shame.
I planned to buy a Type-S after my lease ran out as I expected the hype and mark ups would be over. Now I might as well lease an A4 and get the same numbers and better fuel economy when the new model is released.
It's very perceptible when you are being gapped on the road, not to mention the gap is larger than your numbers....
Type-S S4
C/D TEST RESULTS C/D TEST RESULTS 60 mph: 4.9 sec W 60 mph: 4.2 sec 100 mph: 12.6 sec W 100 mph: 10.7 sec 1/4-Mile: 13.6 sec @ 103 mph W Ό-mile: 12.8 sec @ 108 mph 130 mph: 24.2 sec W 130 mph: 19.5 sec Results above omit 1-ft rollout of 0.3 sec. Rollout, 1 ft: 0.2 sec Rolling Start, 560 mph: 5.5 sec W! Rolling start, 560 mph: 5.7 sec Top Gear, 3050 mph: 3.3 sec W Top gear, 3050 mph: 2.8 sec Top Gear, 5070 mph: 4.5 sec W Top gear, 5070 mph: 3.6 sec Top Speed (C/D est): 155 mph Top speed (governor limited, mfr's claim): 155 mph Braking, 700 mph: 165 ft W Braking, 700 mph: 162 ft Roadholding, 300-ft Skidpad: 0.96 g W Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.95 g
Oddly the A4 beats them all with 0.97 skidpad on all-seasons vs these two with Summer treads. They both need a diet.
I don't think the Type-S is a bad car but I'm tired of hearing the excuses. Just admit it, Acura screwed the pooch. They targeted the car above? Does it really look that way? Line up at a track for some fun and watch the S4 destroy you, and it's the next slowest in the class according to many.
Acura went as far as faking a drag race at the racetrack launch event. That is simply inexcusable.
You got a factory freak to beat Car&Driver's results. Either way the S4's numbers put them to shame.
I planned to buy a Type-S after my lease ran out as I expected the hype and mark ups would be over. Now I might as well lease an A4 and get the same numbers and better fuel economy when the new model is released.
i wouldnt go for an A4/S4. The looks just dont get it for me. Even the type S driving dynamics are far greater than the a/S4. However I would take a s5.