Your opinion of push button shifter on TLX and other Acuras (Honda as well)....
#1
Cruisin'
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Your opinion of push button shifter on TLX and other Acuras (Honda as well)....
After spending 3 years with my TLX (V6, 9-speed, tech, etc.) I would gladly pay to have Acura remove the buttons and replace it with a shift handle as is my 2005 TL.
Members, how have you adapted (if at all) to the button set-up and your opinions and tricks.
David
Members, how have you adapted (if at all) to the button set-up and your opinions and tricks.
David
#2
Suzuka Master
I am mixed, I like a shifter, but the more open uncluttered openness of the front cabin makes the front space feel larger and more spacious with the push buttons. Of the few incarnations I have seen I like Acura's the best. I don;t like that Lincoln put it on the dash. Genesis is a hybrid, shifter for FWD/REV, but a button for park (dumb). I have gotton used to it and am fine with the Acura implementation.
#3
Instructor
I originally wasn't sold on the push buttons, but over time I have found I actually prefer it. I was used to resting my hand on the shifter and missed that in the beginning.
- The push buttons, once you learn the feel, you can change direction (D to R, R to D), and park without ever looking down.
- You can when parking, just hit the engine start button, it will automatically put the car in park and set emergency brake, so less steps to do when exiting the vehicle.
- It's safer, if you open the door with your seat belt off, it will put the car in park, if this would have been implemented/working properly the Star Trek Star's, Anton Yelchin's, jeep would not have killed him.
- When starting the car, you only have to put it in Drive or Reverse, the parking brake will release automatically when touching the accelerator. (Make sure the door and driver's seat belt is engaged for this to work)
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9SpeedTran (06-22-2018)
#4
I frequently switch between my A Spec, motorcycle, Honda Pilot, & 2010 manual TSX. All completely different in regard to shifter placement and operation.
I knew the TLX was a new design and I knew that I would eventually get used to it. No complaints at all.
I knew the TLX was a new design and I knew that I would eventually get used to it. No complaints at all.
#5
Cruisin'
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Many Mfg.s are going without the shifter and using various configurations and locations.
Having the extra space available below is of no real interest to me, I've managed fine through the years.
My neighbor has an Lincoln MKZ, and I prefer having the buttons higher and at eye level.
The paddles are fine, but used as you are moving forward and not engaging N/R/P.
In the next two or three years, not certain there will be hand shifters available in any new vehicle, lets hope so.
Interesting opinions none the less, thanks for sharing.
I'm David
Having the extra space available below is of no real interest to me, I've managed fine through the years.
My neighbor has an Lincoln MKZ, and I prefer having the buttons higher and at eye level.
The paddles are fine, but used as you are moving forward and not engaging N/R/P.
In the next two or three years, not certain there will be hand shifters available in any new vehicle, lets hope so.
Interesting opinions none the less, thanks for sharing.
I'm David
#6
Burning Brakes
I think it was a horrible idea and I hate it. They need to make some major changes for the next GEN TLX .
#7
6 Forward 1 Back
As much as I'd like to have a shift handle, that's never coming back, unless they do a manual transmission (dreaming). I still haven't gotten used to it on my '18 Aspec and constantly look down to see which button i'm pressing.
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I have them in both my 16 TLX and 17 MDX. So used to them now that the rental Altima I had in Florida felt sort of strange with its conventional shifter.
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Personally think it is a "High Tech" look marketing feature. More space? What do you do with the extra space, more cup holders? No look shifting. Same as with a stick or do you fingers need to "find" the right button by feel? No hand rest.
Might be the future but will have to see how it plays out. Push button autos were tried before in the 1950's Edsel & 1960's Dodge but at the time did not become mainstream. Expect there were others but these efforts were high volume normal cars.
Might be the future but will have to see how it plays out. Push button autos were tried before in the 1950's Edsel & 1960's Dodge but at the time did not become mainstream. Expect there were others but these efforts were high volume normal cars.
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Ive had it in 2 TLXs, my MDX and the soon to arrive RDX and Im perfectly happy with the buttons. With each version, Acura seems to streamline them. The new RDX has less butttons and they are up higher and more visible. Ive driven a few other vehicles with button shifters from Ford and Chrysler and Honda/Acura does them better. Same position as a normal shifter and the selector buttons follow the same pattern, P-R-N-D that they would in a traditional shift lever. Driving a loaner car with a shift lever feels cumbersome to me now.
Id still take a manual trans over an auto if it was offered though.
Id still take a manual trans over an auto if it was offered though.
#13
Disliked the button shifter but thought it would grow on me and actually dislike it more now than initially. Very awkward to make any type of K turn where you need to shift from drive to reverse to drive quickly since you have to look down to make sure you are pushing the right buttons along with the lag. Also there is the issue of trying to put it into gear too quickly after starting where it should be in reverse but is still in park (never happens with a lever shift). I would have paid extra for a lever and to be able to shut off permanently the auto idle off. Besides the trans the button shifter and engine shut off are the main things I wish were done differently.
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#14
Three Wheelin'
I always thought the feature was kinda odd, but cool in a way. Over 2.5yrs later, I'm completely used to it and really like the open space it creates. I think the longest adjustment period for me was figuring out where to place my right hand since there was no shifter to rest it on anymore.
#15
Not a fan. But hey.....I actually like the old Triptronic shifter in my 3G. Would prefer a 6 speed MT
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Instructor
I have no problem with the push button arrangement at all. I could operate it without looking within one hour of buying my 2018 TLX Advance. As an aside, push button transmission selectors are not anything new. A number of cars had them from the mid 1950's to the early 1960's. Chrysler vehicles having the feature for the longest period.
#20
Cruisin'
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Linmk2,
I was not concerned with historical data on push button/etc. transmission shifters. I've been around long enough to have a knowledgeable amount of history on that subject.
My intent when starting this thread was to ask how current owners of Acura felt about them.
It's down the middle, I think that most here would not have thought shed a tear had buttons not been available.
Enjoy your TLX,
Cheers....
I was not concerned with historical data on push button/etc. transmission shifters. I've been around long enough to have a knowledgeable amount of history on that subject.
My intent when starting this thread was to ask how current owners of Acura felt about them.
It's down the middle, I think that most here would not have thought shed a tear had buttons not been available.
Enjoy your TLX,
Cheers....
#22
An Acura rep video somewhere on YouTube says "... there's no lever so now you can move your purse from the driver's seat to the passenger seat without hitting a lever."
It works but I absolutely hate it.
Should I tell you how I really feel?
It works but I absolutely hate it.
Should I tell you how I really feel?
#23
I miss having a regular or apparently now old school shift lever. I still sometimes forget to press "P" or have to double check to make sure I pushed it when I'm parked.
P.S: I wish they made a manual TLX. That would be nice.
P.S: I wish they made a manual TLX. That would be nice.
#24
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The only part that bothers me is the lag. When you push reverse you have to wait 1-2 seconds to push the gas and same when you push drive also the lag to wait. It makes three point turns on a busy road scary
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Would seem to make a lot of sense since they only have buttons to manage for an automatic park function on shutdown.
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The push button tranny car I’m aiming to acquire one day.
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I prefer the push button... especially when I drag my laptop off the front seat. lol.
Took no time to get used to, either. Maybe 1 or 2 days. Big whoop. I don't even know how there's any difficulty in learning it. Maybe the "pull back on the 'R' to reverse" is tricky to learn for some. But after doing it a couple of times, that should be intuitive. The only other reason for not liking it is preference, I guess, and I much prefer hitting a button.
Once you open the door or turn the car off, it automatically goes into park.
Took no time to get used to, either. Maybe 1 or 2 days. Big whoop. I don't even know how there's any difficulty in learning it. Maybe the "pull back on the 'R' to reverse" is tricky to learn for some. But after doing it a couple of times, that should be intuitive. The only other reason for not liking it is preference, I guess, and I much prefer hitting a button.
Once you open the door or turn the car off, it automatically goes into park.
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I prefer the push button... especially when I drag my laptop off the front seat. lol.
Took no time to get used to, either. Maybe 1 or 2 days. Big whoop. I don't even know how there's any difficulty in learning it. Maybe the "pull back on the 'R' to reverse" is tricky to learn for some. But after doing it a couple of times, that should be intuitive. The only other reason for not liking it is preference, I guess, and I much prefer hitting a button.
Once you open the door or turn the car off, it automatically goes into park.
Took no time to get used to, either. Maybe 1 or 2 days. Big whoop. I don't even know how there's any difficulty in learning it. Maybe the "pull back on the 'R' to reverse" is tricky to learn for some. But after doing it a couple of times, that should be intuitive. The only other reason for not liking it is preference, I guess, and I much prefer hitting a button.
Once you open the door or turn the car off, it automatically goes into park.
I do realize some prefer to have the car overide the driver but I would be fine without all of those extra "features" and just have the car do what I want. The number of controls built into the car keep increasing.
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