Black...with a chrome-like insert. Very classy and, more importantly for draph, very readable.

 

I test drove a V6 Advanced....I guess I'm color blind. Bottom line - not a lot of contrast between needle color the rest of the gauges; but I suppose there is just enough variation that I was subliminally able to see virtually instantaneously how fast I was going, what rpm I was at, how much gas was left in the tank, and engine temperature at every glance down through the steering wheel....best gauges in the business without a doubt.....

 

You don't need contrasting color to be good as you've found out already (see 3g which isn't - too dark even lit up which then causes fuzziness and squinting). As long as there's a good light / dark contrast, full length pointers from radius center (not 4g) , and a fairly large sweep, information will be quickly discernable.

 

One thing that's nice is the entire control layout is virtually identical to that of the MDX (other than the V6 shifter button), so switching back and forth will be easy.

 

Not sure that's quite accurate Gregg. The base of the needle is as you described, however the main portion of the needle is LED back-lit using the same white LED lighting that is used on the rest of the gauges/dash. Hence the "white" you see in the pictures.

This picture shows them better:



And although you see a slight "blueish" hue in the pic above, that's just bad coloring in the pic, they are pure white, just like in the RLX interior shots I posted previously.

 

You're right...was going to come back and correct. They are actually chrome w/ a white insert. The white is illumitated quite brightly during use.

 

Damn! That speedometer needle is misaligned when engine is off -- it's not aligned with the zero mark. That would bug the hell out of me every time I'm at a stop light or traffic light. Maybe the picture was taken while rolling backwards downhill at -0.5 mph.

 

^^ I think we have just found the cause of the of the poor 0-60 tests!!! Its a -1.0-60 test *LMAO*

 

^^^ You're a bloody genius!!

 

Never underestimate weather! Just don't mention bananas around him....

 

*LMAO* Oh you guys!!

 

OK, so I finally got to see the car in person finally today and drive the car. The gauges are the one thing I have changed my mind about. I have to take back a few things I said. I said they look like old school Ford gauges. No I was wrong there.

The gauges definitely look better in person, these pics don't do it justice. The previous pics made it look very flat and 2 dimensional like BMW gauges. Actually they have a 3D effect which makes it interesting. As I was saying, I wish they were unique and imaginative and from that perspective they are to some extent. I'm not saying the best cluster I've seen, and they STILL could have done better, but they definitely look fine for this car and don't look cheap. They look good backlit (as the pics above show) and the MID looks nice, better than any previous TL/TSX.

That being said, pretty much everything else I thought and predicted about this car was as expected, no other surprises. I was disappointed about a few things but don't want to go OT on this thread. Bottomline is the TLX is not gonna be the choice for my next car. Not a bad car overall, it's just not for me.

 

Can't stop laughing!!!

 

 

what V8s did you whoop?

 

I agree with you! For close to $50K, I can get a low mileage Audi A6, BMW535. Call the tuners as soon as I bring it home. A very close friend just got one of those, with just chipped + suspension and it has different personality.

 

Are you saying that it's better to buy a used Audi or [fill in the other than Acura blank] for $50K+ instead of the new TL.. And then spend another $10-$20K tuning it?

Why would a person looking for a tuner car buy a TLX (Acura) anyway?

Just wondering...

 

I would buy a low mileage C7 A6 or 535 over the TLX any day. No, you don't need to spend tenths and thousands of dollars just to do a minor tune. I said CHIPPED and suspension.

BTW...You said why would one buys a tuner's car that look for TLX. Have you ever wandered over the tuner section on this forum? I supposed you have had, since you have over 3K posts.

 

Oh, okay.

Are the gauges much better in those?

 

You had a Lexus GS-F Sport, I suppose you did x-shop with those cars before, so you should know how they are. Unless you are being sarcastic.

 

$1,000 in tuning equates to like 50+HP/ft lbs on those N54/55s man. Lol

And yes, I would x shop a CPO BMW/Audi with a new TLX.

 

Yeah, lol. Go for it, get one or better yet, Dodge Hellcat

 

I don't understand why you get so defensive about the TLX.

You bought one. Great. Enjoy it. I own a TL myself and I'm sure the TLX is far more refined and enjoyable drive.

But once again I feel like I have to remind you this is an enthusiast website. We mod things. We want performance. And the TLX (and 4G, 3G) are not super moddable, performance machines. The BMWs and some Audi's certainly are.

Chill out man.

 

C'mon man, you sound like they're bad cars to own used. And able to afford one doesn't mean that you can just go out and grab one mindlessly.

Again, I posted in the other thread. Was I able to afford one? Yes I was about to pull a trigger on the A7 actually, but then found a brand new 14' Accord Touring with too sweet of a deal. So, in the mean time, I will wait for the refreshing ones. Maybe even a Macan.

 

Dunno how one goes from an A7 to an Accord though... Lol

 

Why are you so damned thin skinned? It only takes questioning your statement to get you on the defensive. I was not mean NOR was I calling you out on anything, just questioned the content but YOU have to make it personal. WTF? Seriously.

As for you "reminding " me?

I guess I need to just nod and agree from now on. Yeah? Discussing is bad
BTW, I do not own a TLX.

 

hahaha I knew someone gonna say that. It's a deal between the wife and I =).

 

Your half witty sarcastic tone echoes throughout this forum.

I'm not defensive at all. I know damn well this 3G will be the last Honda I personally drive. Lol

 

Just a correction on the $10K to $20K for a tune.

Had a total of about $1300 or so in mine for 0-90 in 8 seconds or better. As for tuning a car Acura is advertising the TLX as a performance sports sedan.

Lots of people tune performance sports sedans for track day use so its a fair statement.

Also for some one leading the defense & claiming they don't own one but have ordered one & says in every post "14 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L ( awaiting arrival of my boat)" is pretty disingenuous.

 

Just asking the community to keep an eye out for any aftermarket parts for TLX. Looking to beef it up ASAP!

 

Yes sir, sorry sir. I was already corrected that is only takes a few dollars to make your car into a tuner, why are you piling on?

Ah yes, of course. What was I thinking? I don't own a TLX but I am called disingenuous. I have not put one cent down on one.

So, so much more I could say but why bother.

 

Don't take this TOO seriously Stew but this has been said many times. It seems like you (and Dyson, but uh-oh, I don't wanna drag him into this) seem to just pounce on any atom of negative criticism on the TLX. Just about whatever the topic is, it's as if it just can't cross your scrutiny. As if you're the "Acura-police" and you will defend it as if your long lost great uncle owns the company or something. haha. It's pretty much predictable once I type in anything.

I wonder if you really believe what you say or just have a habit to argue at everything. I'm not saying that your opinions are illogical or invalid, they are. I can accept that it's just a different opinion. While we rarely agree, sometimes we actually do. But here's the thing, you seem to want everyone to explain and justify EVERY opinion. Why would you do that unless you feel their opinion is invalid? You may say that's not what you mean to do/imply, but that's how you make people feel.

It's a bit annoying but whatever man, I don't take the internet that seriously 99% of the time. It's nothing personal, I can tell you're a good guy in real life. I just hope YOU aren't taking too much of this too personal, because that isn't healthy. We're talking about gauges and headliners here, frankly BS in the scheme of life, lol.

 

Thanks for your concern. Good thing you don't exaggerate, that would not good, now would it.

I feel so much better now.

 

Well you can call it "exaggeration", but what I call it is "telling it like it is". If something were an objective scientific fact then you can say that someone has exaggerated reality. But if someone is giving their opinion and there is some emotion behind it, it will seem "exaggerated" to you if you have the opposite opinion. An opinion is your own sense of reality. You may understand it, you might not. But I guess if you think that I exaggerate, I guess that too is an opinion, so it's all good. Hope that made sense because actually it doesn't make 100% sense, but that's life. What's "reality" anyways, haha. And glad you feel better now.

 

I was initially debating between a 1-2 yr old 535x-drive, A6 3.0 prestige, or the new TLX, but then decided on the TLX.

My reasoning was simple enough; I plan on keeping this car for at least 3-5 years, and didn't want to spend about 10k more on a late model 535, or A6 with similar features just to have it worth 10k less at trade in. Seeing how much value a 6 yr old 5 series or A6 has lost really emphasized that for me, and weighed heavily on my final decision.

I just traded in my wifes RDX, and was shocked to realize that at similar mileage, it had exactly the same trade in value as my old 540. There was some inflation in between, but the MSRP for the RDX was less than 60% of what the 540 sold for, and it was 1 yr older at the time of trade in. Doing the math, the 5 series had over double the depreciation than my TL-S, RDX, and TSX had.

I was also looking for reliability with my DD, and that 5 series required the most trips to the dealer by far compared to any other vehicle I ever owned. It was a super fun DD though, I definitely give it that.

Also there is ZERO point in buying a CPO Audi or BMW if you are going to tune it. They pull ECU info at practically every visit, and will flag your vehicle in their system if a tune, or evidence of ECU flashing is found.

Magnuson-Moss act wont be worth the paper its printed in on when they completely void the warranty for the entire powertrain.

 

Again, thanks for your concern. I can tell you feel like you've gotten that weight off your shoulders and fully expressed your dislike of my opinions and postings here.

As I have been told by a mod here when complaining (which is what your are doing) about someone's posts, I was told to ignore them instead of whining, like you are doing.

 

Yea I did want to say something earlier. But I thought it was just me so whatever. Come to read throughout the TLX forum it's actually not just me, this seems to be your mission. So I just put in my 2 cents respectfully.

Complaining and whining? lol. OK. You do seem to make inciteful remarks in order to get people to argue with you. Won't work here. Indeed the mod is 100% correct. Ignoring is perhaps the best solution. Enjoy.

 

And with that, please try and keep these threads on topic, and take the conversations between you to PM.

 

540s were junk. No offense. Lol. New models are far different than those from 5+ years ago.

And you'd be surprised what they allow tuning wise under warranty. Hit up some BMW/Audi forums for more info there.

And....back on topic. Forgive me.

 

I loved my E39, had more personality than the E60, and current 5 for sure, but again check resale on the most recent models that are more than just 1-2 years old, and see where they are at.

Check my sig. I'm pretty familiar with modded German vehicles; LOL, and my hiatus from here was spent on BMW & Audi forums, just not in a moderator function.

The RS is modded including a tune, and Audi will definitely flag an in-warranty vehicle with an aftermarket tune. They've taken a very hardline stance on this over the last few years, and I've seen the documents that they have been circulating to their dealers regarding it.